meh I was fine with this year. I'm not as emotionally invested as I was in kpop when I was a teenager so theres a lot less shit that bothers me nowadays when it comes to releases. I don't watch music shows so I tend to not give a crap about performances as much as I used to. I also don't watch varieties so seriously I'm only into it for the music now as strange as it sounds lmao. I'm no longer invested in the idol comeback cycle and truthfully I think its pretty fucked up. I don't need to see my fave idol make a comeback every six months but then again I guess that's kind of a side affect of stanning for big bang.
Actually now that I'm looking at the poster...I don't really get the complaints about everyone being in the dungeon. 4 acts had a comeback. 1 had a major concert. 1 had a lot of overseas activities along with other little things and the other two were mia but I'm sure that Lee Hi, Winner, and Akmu will have comebacks this year because there is strong evidence of this...Not to mention that 3 of the artists who promoted this year also had long hiatuses. 2ne1 is kind of a special situation though
pretty sure this year disappointed me the most so far. i mean - a year has 12 months, ygent doesn't even have THAT many groups/soloists and they promote on 1,5 music shows but instead of using sment's strategy and releasing groups/soloists back-to-back... what the hell even happened? they couldn't even release made album. i don't understand how this company works. they just keep building cafeterias while every artist mentions how they don't have enough recording rooms and they are always packed because of that. i really hope next year will be better.
should've used "most" because of course i didn't mean "every" in a literal way. and yes a few have, which changed only towards the second half of year. and still it remains as "few". i just find it odd that for such a long time music company was functioning this way. it's not like label was established today.
i was p. disappointed with yg this year ngl and i really need that full made album to come out soon
also i don't get why yg stans were hyping up this year so much like compared to jyp and sm, i feel yg didn't do that well (aside from bb and psy imo, jinusean's cb single was p. ok too)
I would say I'm disappointed but I haven't been into YGE since 2010. If not for BB and Lee Hi, I wouldn't even mess with them.
For 2016, YGE would probably do wonders dialing back on CL's...wtf they're doing with her career. (Is she debuting in America? Or is she also promoting as a soloist here in Korea?); dial back on iKon; confirm 2NE1's fate good or not; push AKMU and Lee Hi to the fore front; give us the BB Made album (and it better be fire) and give Winner a chance at some year end awards like damn. Give peeps a chance to shine why don't you?
I feel like YG and CL's American management team have different plans for her, thus creating conflicting outlooks for her career in the near future. It also seems her American debut is being delayed for some reason (there were some not so flattering rumours going around lmao), but I do hope she gets it off the ground properly this year. And maybe we can get that 2NE1 comeback after that....
Those concerns are certainly warranted. I can see why her US management team is putting a delay to things and hopefully going to back to the drawing board with how to market her b/c if they go down this route with her current image, I doubt she'll succeed and worse, she may come back with ugly labels like: "Asian Iggy" or some other rot.
I've lost the original link, but someone on here send me some tweets a while ago of someone who claimed to be friends with someone who'd been in a CL music video. When this person asked about CL's album, the mv-extra told them the project kept getting delayed because no one wanted to work with CL over worries of her being Iggy Azalea 2.0 lmao
I'm not saying we are to take this even 1 percent serious (random tweets are random), but there has definitely been something going on bts to delay CL's proper debut? We got talk about her debuting since the start of 2015, articles came out in august describing the album being done completely. Perhaps it's something completely unrelated that has kept her back, but it's entertaining enough to speculate in the mean time.
or just learn to multitask? i don't see why CL should have to be put on the back burner for those other people to shine. he needs to stop sticking his neck in every project and get a calendar.
Lmao, you raise a good point. I didn't think of that. But on the other hand, Winner definitely won't have a shot at winning if they never come back. They should at least release new material to appease loyal fans and rub it in naysayers' faces. Also it's ridiculous how their careers are being put on hold due to shoddy management. I mean their debut was pretty successful and I'm saying this as someone who does like their music. Even if they lose to BB, they should at least get to perform at year end ceremonies and what not. It just bugs me a little b/c I'm selling 2NE1!style neglect floating over Winner (and AKMU and Lee Hi) and it isn't fair.
Well as a person who see's 2ne1 as not being neglected in YG i can't agree with that part of your statement.
Now then, though they(winner) havent as a group released music in Korea for a while, they have been working, doing concerts in japan, and having solo endeavors. And I get that people don't consider it when they think about it at this time, but it all helps the brand in the end. It's a risky yet safe way to do it cause as long as theres a want for the group solos only aid anticipation and even if the want for the group fades the solos will in the end cut the loss.
Or something like that... Said in another post YGE's business model is crazy interesting if people really look at it. Lots of if checks in it people hardly notice.
My only true complaint about YG is that the dude is always talking but never delivering. Like, I'm used to enjoying groups who get one release every so often and then disappear for two years - but the affair becomes extremely annoying when the CEO's is announcing a comeback every other month, only for that never to happen.
I get he wants people to be excited for his artists but do his ambitious comeback plans ever happen? Nope, so shush.
I was disappointed with the company in 2015 only because 2014 was such a good year. 2ne1, AkMu, Taeyang, Winner, and Epik High all had sold albums. They promoted a lot and went sucessful tours. 2015 wasn't bad in terms of tours because BB had a huge tour and while I don't follow Ikon, I think they had some successful events. I just wish the company could promote more artists throughout the year like they did in 2014.
That whole ordeal with will they/won't they fired up by false/not so close to true messages is really nagl and irritaiting. Be out once for 3/4 years, but do not pretend like it gonna happen sooner/give some things/others in between. I mean YG an the end of the day is idol's comapny who tries to play by non idol rules clumsily while their market consumers are not use to it/don't want it an we've got shit.
I'm being so serious when I say this. I find YG's overall business model to be impressive and besides people just wanting to see more of their faves, I can't understand a majority of the complaints that get thrown YG's way.
Their groups stay at the top and they do it with minimal promo and maximized media play and it works. In the meantime, the public ends up liking what they do put out when they do it. I could understand if YG had actually ran one of his groups into the ground but he hasn't. 2ne1 might not ever be back to their former glory but that's not the fault of YG. It wasn't because of anything YG had control over so people need to let that one go. Winner didn't release anything last year but they stayed busy and lucrative. Lee Hi is working with Tablo, which could only happen if YG ok'ed it and Akmu arent dead.
The business model is crazy interesting to me. Its been bringing them profits year after year, and honestly fans don't help their case because of this.. There's no sense of urgency for the company (maybe not the artists) even though there's an outcry for releases since they stay in the black. Though now with BB enlistment fast approaching they may just drop 2-3 years worth of SM style album drops to fill the void. Which if they do it right like this hypothetical scenario BB album Top Leaves GD/Taeyang Album They leave Ri/Daesung albums they leave + the rest of the company drops between during and they can power through decently. I mean Can even cut Taeyang/Ri/Daesung albums and would probably be alright.
other than I'd like to see what they do for YG fam 15th anniversary Company album/tour again or ? easy money
I think that since they have beefed up their roster, they can stay a float while BB is out. But YG is all about their elite image and I just can't see them giving that up. To get the money BB makes, what really matters is having groups that can tour. Dae and Ri can take on Japan. GD&Tae can do major touring.YG's been so adamant about Winner in Japan. I think Winner will come back and then they will start some real tours. Winner and Ikon will get a more endorsements. Then they will throw out AKMU and MAYBE Epik High to reinforce the "real artist" image.
Personally, I feel like YG's business model has the most longevity in it. I don't think there is any other idol company that can go years between releases and keep their artists relevant.
Also, their 20th anniversary is coming up so I bet they will milk that.
2014 was such a good year for YG releases and then 2015 couldn't have been more disappointing in comparison. Psy was good though, Napal Baji is a kpop masterpiece, I don't care what ppl say
I'm fine with 2015. Concerts and touring are how YG makes its money. They have never followed the multiple comeback schedule other companies push. One producer even basically told fans music takes time and to stop rushing them LOL.
Big Bang and Epik High had International tours. Winner had a Japanese tour. iKON debuted with a Korean concert and had a Japanese and Chinese fanmeeting tour. AkMu, Psy, and Jinusean had Korean concerts. Many acts guested at each other's shows.
Big Bang released 8 singles over 4 months. iKON debuted and released several singles with their half and full albums. Psy finally released his long awaited album.
AkMu and Jinusean had a new singles. 2NE1's CL dropped a noise marketing single and Dara acted and joined variety shows. Winner's Taehyun and Seungyoon also promoted as actors and Mino went on SMTM4.
Lee Hi is being managed by Tablo for her comeback and they've had several writing camps and often post via High Ground's IG.
I loved 2NE1 saying F It and appearing at MAMA...YG totally used that late invitation thing as leverage to have that stage happen. They were testing the waters and I expect a comeback to happen after CL's American debut.
My only real annoyance was that YG put almost no effort into iKON's debut from concept to teasers or even promotions on music shows in Korea. Even then YG still won because they focused completely on them touring in Japan and China and effectively used Vapp to keep them connected to fans in Korea and Internationally.
I do think the girl group is coming in 2016. Both Jisoo and Lalice has endorsements and we have seen Jennie Kim previously. Hanna was going solo but that could change. Also is Katie Kim REALLY going to stay solo? The 5 members we know of have been releasing video clips and photos...YG NewGG is coming.
Winner is coming back next week. They already went to two countries to film and Taehyun is the main producer. Lee Hi and AkMu next please.
MADE in Japan is dropping in February...I wonder if MADE Korea in in March.
If there isn't a 20th Anniversary concert before TOP's enlistment I would definitely thing YG was stupid
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Date: 2016-01-03 01:35 pm (UTC)I put all my hopes in Tablo because he did say Lee Hi was working with him
Please release AKMU
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#panda4CEO
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Date: 2016-01-03 01:42 pm (UTC)at least Bigbang did well
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Date: 2016-01-03 02:43 pm (UTC)also i don't get why yg stans were hyping up this year so much like compared to jyp and sm, i feel yg didn't do that well (aside from bb and psy imo, jinusean's cb single was p. ok too)
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Date: 2016-01-03 04:20 pm (UTC)For 2016, YGE would probably do wonders dialing back on CL's...wtf they're doing with her career. (Is she debuting in America? Or is she also promoting as a soloist here in Korea?); dial back on iKon; confirm 2NE1's fate good or not; push AKMU and Lee Hi to the fore front; give us the BB Made album (and it better be fire) and give Winner a chance at some year end awards like damn. Give peeps a chance to shine why don't you?
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Date: 2016-01-05 02:57 pm (UTC)I'm not saying we are to take this even 1 percent serious (random tweets are random), but there has definitely been something going on bts to delay CL's proper debut? We got talk about her debuting since the start of 2015, articles came out in august describing the album being done completely. Perhaps it's something completely unrelated that has kept her back, but it's entertaining enough to speculate in the mean time.
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Date: 2016-01-04 01:21 pm (UTC)Now then, though they(winner) havent as a group released music in Korea for a while, they have been working, doing concerts in japan, and having solo endeavors. And I get that people don't consider it when they think about it at this time, but it all helps the brand in the end. It's a risky yet safe way to do it cause as long as theres a want for the group solos only aid anticipation and even if the want for the group fades the solos will in the end cut the loss.
Or something like that... Said in another post YGE's business model is crazy interesting if people really look at it. Lots of if checks in it people hardly notice.
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Date: 2016-01-03 04:23 pm (UTC)I get he wants people to be excited for his artists but do his ambitious comeback plans ever happen? Nope, so shush.
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Date: 2016-01-03 07:40 pm (UTC)ngl ill be pissed if he debuts his gg this year, wjsn wont have a chance
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Date: 2016-01-03 08:38 pm (UTC)big bang slayed me anyway. patiently waiting for mades release.
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Date: 2016-01-03 08:50 pm (UTC)Be out once for 3/4 years, but do not pretend like it gonna happen sooner/give some things/others in between.
I mean YG an the end of the day is idol's comapny who tries to play by non idol rules clumsily while their market consumers are not use to it/don't want it an we've got shit.
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Date: 2016-01-04 12:21 am (UTC)I'm being so serious when I say this. I find YG's overall business model to be impressive and besides people just wanting to see more of their faves, I can't understand a majority of the complaints that get thrown YG's way.
Their groups stay at the top and they do it with minimal promo and maximized media play and it works. In the meantime, the public ends up liking what they do put out when they do it. I could understand if YG had actually ran one of his groups into the ground but he hasn't. 2ne1 might not ever be back to their former glory but that's not the fault of YG. It wasn't because of anything YG had control over so people need to let that one go. Winner didn't release anything last year but they stayed busy and lucrative. Lee Hi is working with Tablo, which could only happen if YG ok'ed it and Akmu arent dead.
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Date: 2016-01-04 04:01 am (UTC)other than I'd like to see what they do for YG fam 15th anniversary Company album/tour again or ? easy money
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Date: 2016-01-04 10:38 am (UTC)Personally, I feel like YG's business model has the most longevity in it. I don't think there is any other idol company that can go years between releases and keep their artists relevant.
Also, their 20th anniversary is coming up so I bet they will milk that.
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Date: 2016-01-04 11:22 am (UTC)Big Bang and Epik High had International tours. Winner had a Japanese tour. iKON debuted with a Korean concert and had a Japanese and Chinese fanmeeting tour. AkMu, Psy, and Jinusean had Korean concerts. Many acts guested at each other's shows.
Big Bang released 8 singles over 4 months. iKON debuted and released several singles with their half and full albums. Psy finally released his long awaited album.
AkMu and Jinusean had a new singles. 2NE1's CL dropped a noise marketing single and Dara acted and joined variety shows. Winner's Taehyun and Seungyoon also promoted as actors and Mino went on SMTM4.
Lee Hi is being managed by Tablo for her comeback and they've had several writing camps and often post via High Ground's IG.
I loved 2NE1 saying F It and appearing at MAMA...YG totally used that late invitation thing as leverage to have that stage happen. They were testing the waters and I expect a comeback to happen after CL's American debut.
My only real annoyance was that YG put almost no effort into iKON's debut from concept to teasers or even promotions on music shows in Korea. Even then YG still won because they focused completely on them touring in Japan and China and effectively used Vapp to keep them connected to fans in Korea and Internationally.
I do think the girl group is coming in 2016. Both Jisoo and Lalice has endorsements and we have seen Jennie Kim previously. Hanna was going solo but that could change. Also is Katie Kim REALLY going to stay solo? The 5 members we know of have been releasing video clips and photos...YG NewGG is coming.
Winner is coming back next week. They already went to two countries to film and Taehyun is the main producer. Lee Hi and AkMu next please.
MADE in Japan is dropping in February...I wonder if MADE Korea in in March.
If there isn't a 20th Anniversary concert before TOP's enlistment I would definitely thing YG was stupid
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Date: 2016-01-04 01:04 pm (UTC)"My only real annoyance was that YG put almost no effort into iKON's debut from concept to teasers or even promotions on music shows in Korea."
this times 10000
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