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DANIEL LEE, better known as the rapper-poet “Tablo” of the Asian hip-hop group Epik High, was on campus last week with a crew from the public broadcasting corporation MBC in Seoul, South Korea. The visit is part of Lee’s continuing effort to prove that he attended the university and to clear his name.

Lee, who graduated from Stanford in 2002 with bachelor’s and master’s degrees in English, has been the subject of Internet rumors among so-called netizens who accuse him of lying about his Stanford degree. (Stanford magazine wrote about Lee and his soaring career in the July/August 2009 issue.)

The rumors continue despite the efforts of TOM BLACK, university registrar, and TOBIAS WOLFF, the Ward W. and Priscilla B. Woods Professor in English and Lee’s former teacher. Both Black and Wolff released letters in early June verifying that Lee was, indeed, a Stanford graduate.

Black expressed his frustration with the rumors and the volume of email his office received from Korean netizens in an interview with the English-language JoongAng Daily in June.

“My document has a legal bearing here in the United States,” Black was quoted as saying. “I could go to jail if I were to falsify the document. The ignorant mob, I’ll call them, is just spewing poison for no reason.”
Despite those assurances – and threatened legal action by Lee – the netizens persist. In fact, officials throughout campus continue to be contacted by members of Korean Web forums asking questions about Lee, his credentials and his citizenship, among other subjects.

Black was among those interviewed by the MBC broadcasters on Thursday and had the opportunity to talk further with Lee, 29, who says the controversy has been exhausting and discouraging for him and his family.

“I think Daniel is doing very well,” said Black. “He feels very reassured. He saw how we received him – as did the film crew – and he found friends that knew him even while walking around.”


During the conversation, Black said he discovered that Lee worked at the CoHo during his time at Stanford, making sandwiches and handling the cash register. “His poster is still on the wall in Tresidder of the time when he was performing in a play on campus,” said Black.

“I had an intimate exchange with Daniel about Korean society and his music,” Black said. “I asked him if he had any controversial lyrics, perhaps themes of reform. He said yes. He said he was speaking, through his music, of that which he had learned at Stanford. For example, he said that sexism is so ingrained in his society that they aren’t even aware of it. Thus, he was touching some raw nerves. No wonder he has detractors!”

The continuing controversy and the prevalence of cyber hate campaigns have been big news in Seoul.

Wrote the chief editorial writer at JoongAng Daily, “Tablo’s travails are a story of the Internet in Korea, and how a country that likes to call itself the most wired place on earth has created, with fiber-optic cables, networks and rampant animosity, an out-of-control character assassination machine.”

Source: Stanford  University - The Dish
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Date: 2010-08-25 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onecosmiclatte.livejournal.com
i just feel like, oh, tablo. give it up.

Date: 2010-08-26 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjjak.livejournal.com
Mte when I saw this article. Like, again?

Date: 2010-08-25 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erikarafaela.livejournal.com
this has gotten out of hand

Date: 2010-08-25 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyuna.livejournal.com
In before people calling him a drama queen.

God, I wish netizens would stop being retarded

Date: 2010-08-26 03:32 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-25 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilykt7.livejournal.com
im pretty sure the people still denying he went to stanford are legit trolls.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayamefan13.livejournal.com
Good for you, Tablo. (: Hopefully this will finally clear his name, and maybe k-netizens will stop bringing it up.

Date: 2010-08-25 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaylapoo.livejournal.com
ikr. i feel annoyed.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayleen-san.livejournal.com
*sending internet hugs to Tablo* It would seriously piss me off if someone questioned my graduating/getting a degree.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsplashes.livejournal.com
It would seriously piss me off if someone questioned my graduating/getting a degree.

Same here. I'd defend myself too.;;

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Date: 2010-08-25 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xalexandriam.livejournal.com
Troll harder, netizens.

But poor Tablo. I feel like even this show of sorts won't clear up anything.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
I can't believe that people are still doubting him. I mean he's pretty much done all he could have done, from transcripts, to people at the school talking to him, to everything in between and people still don't believe him. Part of me feels like he should just give up because he's done all he could do and if people still don't believe him, that's their problem. On the other hand, I'm glad he's willing to see this to the end.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erbalurbal.livejournal.com
when will it end tablo? Let them gossip, it's the internet.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayamefan13.livejournal.com
A part of me feels like that, but when I see this quote:

In fact, officials throughout campus continue to be contacted by members of Korean Web forums asking questions about Lee, his credentials and his citizenship, among other subjects.

I just want them to stfu already lol, like hello stop contacting Stanford

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Date: 2010-08-25 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achan-x-achun.livejournal.com
seriously netizen should just stfu - -

Date: 2010-08-25 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riofrio.livejournal.com
OT but your icon~ CHUNFACE!!!

Date: 2010-08-25 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/psychedelico_/
In fact, officials throughout campus continue to be contacted by members of Korean Web forums asking questions about Lee, his credentials and his citizenship, among other subjects.

Wow, give it up already. If all these people could just channel their efforts into doing something worthwhile, we could be discovering the cure for AIDS right now.

Date: 2010-08-25 05:38 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-08-25 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairyfay30.livejournal.com
I wonder if those netizens know that they look stupid in continuing this.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lopezfitzgerald.livejournal.com
they probably do, i bet they're just fucking with him at this point. but he looks even dumber, honestly

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Date: 2010-08-25 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
i get it, i totally do.
But the school board cleared it. What else do you have to clear? Sue them, like you are and then let that be that.


OH YOU ARE MAKING A DOCUMENTARY~ok
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new name for netizens ~ The ignorant mob.
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Date: 2010-08-25 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyankee.livejournal.com
I don't think people understand the gravity of this. This not only affects Tablo (how the hell would you feel if people told you your hard work didn't exist? Don't act like you wouldn't be pissed. Psychologically, it's a huge blow) and his family (weren't they being harassed about this, too? Or have people forgotten in favor of calling him a "drama queen" as the Internet is wont to do), but now people from the Stanford campus are being harassed about this. It would maybe be one thing if it were only Tablo, or only his family -- it might stop mattering after a while. But when you involve other people, it has officially gotten out of hand.

He kind of has an obligation to try to do something to stop it, now. This might clear everything up, it might make things worse, it might do nothing at all, but he can't sit by and do nothing now that others are involved.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miyavi-type.livejournal.com
I'm actually more surprised that there are still netizens out there who won't give this a rest. If only people could act more civilized on the net, the boy wouldn't be having so many problems.

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Date: 2010-08-25 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miyavi-type.livejournal.com
Sure is nice to have some of your former instructors sticking up for you, but probably so because he's a celebrity. I'm sure no one would to that for me if I hadda been in the same situation...well, me being all commoner an' stuff.
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Date: 2010-08-25 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audiograms.livejournal.com
I feel really bad for him, if someone tried to discredit things I had worked do hard for.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julili.livejournal.com
netizens need to get shot

Date: 2010-08-25 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-n-o-j.livejournal.com
stay classy. I hope you realize you're a netizen yourself.

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Date: 2010-08-25 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oui-vendredi.livejournal.com
Why are the netizens even still pursuing this? Don't they have a new controversy to harp on or something.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saintalecto.livejournal.com
It just seems like a stupid thing to get twisted over. Anyone with an internet can go to the school's website and check the alumnus list. The 'netizens' are the best detectives on earth- they know where he graduated from, they're just pretending not to.

But now that he's jumping through all these hoops to prove himself, I'm starting to wonder if he really does have something to hide- or maybe the scandal was created to put him front and center again and draw attention to how ~*smart*~ he is and blah blah blah.

I understand that face/reputation is really important in Korea but all of this pomp and circumstance seems a bit much. I would have been much more impressed if he told the antis to google the shit.

Date: 2010-08-25 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapereaux.livejournal.com
haha the last sentence XD *high five*

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Date: 2010-08-25 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saintedmal.livejournal.com
Ah well. There will always be gossip mongers, like how there will always be people hunting the gossip starters down and driving them to suicide.

*shrugs* Poor Blo though. I'd really hate to have people talking about me like that, cause there's only so much action I'd be able to take. ):

Date: 2010-08-25 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forzizi.livejournal.com
This is crazy. Is it that hard to believe a Korean Musician went to an American college and actually worked hard

Date: 2010-08-25 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chockabon.livejournal.com
And got straight As when doing his Masters?
lol ikr.

Date: 2010-08-25 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfax.livejournal.com
yes Blo graduated from Stanford dealwithit.gif

Date: 2010-08-25 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvanilla.livejournal.com
spot-on :)

“Tablo’s travails are a story of the Internet in Korea, and how a country that likes to call itself the most wired place on earth has created, with fiber-optic cables, networks and rampant animosity, an out-of-control character assassination machine.”

Date: 2010-08-25 04:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-25 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetemerald513.livejournal.com
Ugh. Those netizens need to fucking stop. How long is this going to go on? I hope Tablo is able to clear his name after this. I feel so bad for him, his family, and the people at Stanford.
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