Lmaooo YG is so amusing, this doesn't bother me I just don't understand why he's responding. I think he should just tell whoever it is that promotes both acts on social media to make sure it's more even and then keep it cute, why is he always in the press! That being said, if WINNER don't have any music out then it makes sense that he's talking about iKON more. I know they are his faves but still... I wonder why he likes them so much, is it coz he has more influence over his baby BB than he has over adult BB?
"If i dont make Winner succeed as much as iKon, I will think of myself as an amateur."
Pretty sure that should be the other way around. Winner had an amazingly successful debut, more so than iKon. Is his head so far up iKon's ass that he doesn't see he's talking shit about his other group?
Oh yeah, lizard man also said this about 2NE1, but this isn't really news, just urghhh
[Trans] YG "For now, we are concentrating on CL and there will be good news about CL soon."
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— 하얀나무 (@whitewoodGZB) October 4, 2015 (https://twitter.com/whitewoodGZB/status/650473556845817856)
"If i dont make Winner succeed as much as iKon, I will think of myself as an amateur."
lmao what is this bullshit?? isn't there also an article where he compares ikon's debut to bb just after saying that he's uncomfortable with the comparisons? he loses his marbles day by day.
Asking because I never watched that damned show (and YG winds me the fuck up, he's so annoying).
Why is there so much vitriol directed againts iKON? Please someone, please, please explain this to me. I know kpop fandoms love bloodshed but this is on another level, honestly. Why do people hate them?
I feel like (some) people are directing their YG hatred to Ikon. But also Ikon fans think that criticizing YG's mediaplay and interviews about Ikon = hating on Ikon which is just lol Also Double B said some stupid things so people really don't like them (I don't think that anyone actually hates the other 5 boys (well some Ikon fans hate Chanwoo))
He should be ashamed that his dear iKON is getting all the hate due his excessive favoritism and media play and most of people are already sick of them despite just debuting. I feel bad for iKON themselves but it serves YG well that the debut wasn't nearly as successful as he expected, especially compared with Winner's killer debut. Hopefully he gives iKON better songs and don't media play them in that obnoxious way (the second BB, better than Winner, etc). If he wants the group to be successful in the future you need to have the public on your side and people are already fed up with them so...
He's the reason I hate YG. Not the artists, the artists are great (although pity how much he influenced BB/2NE1). From point 0 he liked iKon best, he was butthurt Winner won, and as much as I love Bobby, daaaamn its so annoying to see his favoritism. Winner is love, everyone else can see it why not he....
if he doesn't make winner as popular as ikon... who debuted first again? why is he asking for a war? I get it winner is not as 'YG' as ikon, but who recruited and assembled them as a group again?
i like both groups, although i def prefer winner's music, and i always thought inner circles were being way too dramatic about this (bc god knows they can be so whiny). but seeing ikon having a concert and the fact that they'll have two more mvs is making me rethink this. winner may have had better teasers but there is def a difference here (and i can't at ikon fans saying a fan meeting is the same as a concert lmao). whatever, i'll just wait for their upcoming comeback
I like winner and i am in the periphery of inner circle. i get why they've been whiny. lol. i also see people shit on their whiny-ness, but srsly some of yg's comments about them are whine-worthy.
If i dont make Winner succeed as much as iKon, I will think of myself as an amateur.
wth? In which Universe does YG live in to need to make Winner succeed *like* iKON ? Pretty sure Winner's debut is the industry's gold standard for debut achievement.
Also, how does he always manage to make it about himself? He makes it sound like it's his god-like producer skills that can make a group succeed, even if they are a less talented group than precious iKON?
People directing their hate and disdain towards iKON instead of YG, undermining the iKON boys is pathetic. I dislike most Winner fans with a burning passion but I've never taken it out on Winner. Some of you who claim to be level-headed and mature act like grade-school kids.
Honestly he should shut up for his and his babies own good. Winner will clearly be fine thanks to this mess so i guess they're already a step ahead of ikon. I mean, they always have been but, u know.
I think this actually makes me appreciate winner's debut a lot more than what I did when it happened. I thought all kills and monster rookies & shit were expected and a given for yg artists. But I guess we can say Ikon is pretty much ? a flop? lackluster? just alright? If i was YG id be sweating a ton and prob spilling the beans on the press, just like hes doing lmao
I understand that winner fans can be and are incredibly annoying and in retrospect, winner fans probably have very little to complain about considering they have done well and they aren't some nugu group from a nugu company. However, I still maintain that had team B won from the very beginning, winner would not have existed and that says it all imo. YG from the very beginning talked about the winner from win being the next big bang and despite what some ikon fans might think about the shows favoritism towards winner, yg's favoritism towards team b/ikon was very transparent and he created a whole other show for them despite his claims that the losing team would disband and it is kind of annoying to see ikon fans dismiss that and act like yg views both of them the same way.
also people not liking groups based on their fanbase is nothing new, it is not exclusive to ikon.
I'm probably the only one holding this opinion, but despite the obvious favouritism towards iKON, I still think he'd intended to debut both groups from the beginning. Like team A already had an edge over team B for having 3 known members, he went further by giving KSY a solo debut at the beginning of WIN. That widen the gap in terms of public favour, imo. If yg was pinning for team B to win Win, he shouldn't have done that, then give the voting power to the audience.
I have seen more of YG than I have any of his artists this year. I am so over him and his unhealthy obsession with Ikon and his complete disregard for Winner's entire existence.
I've been saying this for years but that man needs to STOP talking.
ikon should enjoy their spotlight as much as they can. Once YHS gets a new favorite then it's back in the dungeon they go. It's lucky they get to promote as much as they do
the only good thing that came out from all of this drama is that i ended up checking out both Ikon and winner out of curiosity despite me not caring much abt boy groups -esp yg groups- ..and i gotta say i have fallen for winner.
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Date: 2015-10-04 09:20 am (UTC)also op, +1 for taehyun's expression remaining perfect as ever
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Date: 2015-10-04 09:28 am (UTC)I think he should just tell whoever it is that promotes both acts on social media to make sure it's more even and then keep it cute, why is he always in the press!
That being said, if WINNER don't have any music out then it makes sense that he's talking about iKON more. I know they are his faves but still...
I wonder why he likes them so much, is it coz he has more influence over his baby BB than he has over adult BB?
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Date: 2015-10-04 09:29 am (UTC)Pretty sure that should be the other way around. Winner had an amazingly successful debut, more so than iKon. Is his head so far up iKon's ass that he doesn't see he's talking shit about his other group?
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Date: 2015-10-04 09:36 am (UTC)now, I'm so damn exhausted cause top fucked me to hell and back tonight, but that doesn't make sense to me.
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Date: 2015-10-04 09:50 am (UTC)I don't even know what to say to that. Literally speechless.
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Date: 2015-10-04 10:04 am (UTC)lmao what is this bullshit?? isn't there also an article where he compares ikon's debut to bb just after saying that he's uncomfortable with the comparisons? he loses his marbles day by day.
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Date: 2015-10-04 10:15 am (UTC)Why is there so much vitriol directed againts iKON? Please someone, please, please explain this to me.
I know kpop fandoms love bloodshed but this is on another level, honestly.
Why do people hate them?
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Date: 2015-10-04 10:18 am (UTC)Also Double B said some stupid things so people really don't like them (I don't think that anyone actually hates the other 5 boys (well some Ikon fans hate Chanwoo))
Tl;dr It's complicated lol
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Date: 2015-10-04 10:43 am (UTC)From point 0 he liked iKon best, he was butthurt Winner won, and as much as I love Bobby, daaaamn its so annoying to see his favoritism. Winner is love, everyone else can see it why not he....
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Date: 2015-10-04 11:06 am (UTC)wth? In which Universe does YG live in to need to make Winner succeed *like* iKON ? Pretty sure Winner's debut is the industry's gold standard for debut achievement.
Also, how does he always manage to make it about himself? He makes it sound like it's his god-like producer skills that can make a group succeed, even if they are a less talented group than precious iKON?
YG is doing these two groups so wrong, smh.
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Date: 2015-10-04 11:55 am (UTC)I've only seen the hate on yg here tho, not ikon. Are we reading the same comments?
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Date: 2015-10-04 11:15 am (UTC)I think this actually makes me appreciate winner's debut a lot more than what I did when it happened. I thought all kills and monster rookies & shit were expected and a given for yg artists. But I guess we can say Ikon is pretty much ? a flop? lackluster? just alright? If i was YG id be sweating a ton and prob spilling the beans on the press, just like hes doing lmao
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Date: 2015-10-04 12:15 pm (UTC)also people not liking groups based on their fanbase is nothing new, it is not exclusive to ikon.
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Date: 2015-10-04 02:20 pm (UTC)I'm probably the only one holding this opinion, but despite the obvious favouritism towards iKON, I still think he'd intended to debut both groups from the beginning. Like team A already had an edge over team B for having 3 known members, he went further by giving KSY a solo debut at the beginning of WIN. That widen the gap in terms of public favour, imo. If yg was pinning for team B to win Win, he shouldn't have done that, then give the voting power to the audience.
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Date: 2015-10-04 12:53 pm (UTC)ikon should enjoy their spotlight as much as they can. Once YHS gets a new favorite then it's back in the dungeon they go. It's lucky they get to promote as much as they do
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