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John Power with assistance from Jennifer Ryu of The Korea Herald writes:

With increasing numbers of Korean teens having sex ...
What should schools teach about sex?


In a country where sex is not to be spoken about, it is no surprise that sex education in schools is a sensitive issue. Deciding what content is both relevant and appropriate is invariably contentious.

The Ministry of Education, Science and Technology currently requires all schools to provide 10 hours of sex education per year. Nevertheless, teachers can be reluctant to broach the subject, with some educators reluctant even to mention sex at all. It is inevitable, then, that the usefulness of such classes has been called into question. A 2007 survey by AHA! Sexuality Education and Counseling Center for Youth in Seoul found that almost 44 percent of teenagers found the sex education they had received at school to be neither practical nor helpful.

“Current sex education focuses on virginity, which is not an interest of students,” said Cha Chi-young, a professor at the division of nursing science at Ewha Womans University. “They want practical information, but the sex educators are not giving the information they want. As a consequence, most students are getting information from the Internet. It is highly likely that the students get unreliable information.”

Sex education in schools begins in fifth grade, with classes including information about reproductive health and gender roles and equality, according to a spokeswoman for the Education Ministry. Later classes from sixth grade through high school address sexual assault prevention, prostitution, AIDS, contraception and how to cope with sexual urges.


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“The school education is not about sexual activity, but the concept itself. A healthy concept of sex and gender culture is the objective, so it includes both contraception and abstinence,” said the spokeswoman, who added that the ministry had no immediate plans to revise the curriculum.

Statistics show that significant numbers of teenagers are sexually active, despite Korean society’s conservative norms. Close to 9 percent of high school students have experienced sexual intercourse, according to figures for this year from The Ministry of Gender Equality and Family, continuing a steady rise in the number of sexually active teens.

Studies also suggest that most sexually active teens do not use contraception ― just under 60 percent according to a Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report from 2010. Sexually transmitted infections are far from unheard of: In one study of more than 1,500 people aged 20-59, 5.58 percent had Chlamydia. Births outside of wedlock have also risen in recent years, although Korea’s proportion remains the lowest in the OECD, at about 1.6 percent of total births. In the U.S., by contrast, more than half of births are outside of marriage.

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President-elect of the Korean Association for Sexology and Chonnam National University professor Youn Ga-hyun has seen Korean society become increasingly liberal in its attitudes to sex in the last two decades.

“I dealt with the sexual issues as a part of ‘Introductory Psychology’ in the late 1980s (in university), but began to teach ‘Psychology of Human Sexuality’ course from the year 1990. At that time when I began to teach it, most students were very passive in the class. No students tried to ask a question to the instructor, and even they were afraid of being asked any question from me. However, several years later I realized that there had been significant differences in attitudes toward sex between former students and new students. The newer students were, the more liberal attitudes they showed,” Youn said.

The biggest single failing of the current education system, according to Youn, is its failure to tackle entrenched gender inequality.

“The current main drawback to the sexuality education in Korea is that there are still too many teachers who stick to the traditional gender roles, expectations, (who) did not have any opportunity of being trained for sexuality education, and thus don’t understand the notion of gender equality.”

The double standards at the heart of many Koreans’ attitudes to sex can have devastating consequences, said Cha.

“Sexual double standards cause many issues. For example, scholars who have investigated sexual predators reported high sexual double standards. Korean women who are victims of sexual violence do not report the case because they are afraid of being stigmatized as having loose morals. Teenage girls have hard time saying that they want to use a condom because initiating talk about sex is not socially allowed for females,” she said.

While those double standards might be expected to be on the wane, Cha is ambivalent about the nation’s continuing sexual liberalization.

“(It is) a good thing and a bad thing. I am more leaned toward the positive side though. I believe to solve problems we need to be open, and accept that people have sexual needs. (But, on the other hand) teenagers who are too young to make decisions for themselves might be exposed to sex. They might later regret their sexual behavior.”

Morality and religious belief inevitably enter the equation in any debate on sex. The Christian Council of Korea, the country’s largest alliance of Christian churches, recently protested the Korea Food and Drug Administration’s reclassification of the morning after pill as over the counter medicine on the grounds that it can act as an abortifacient. The organization also opposed the students’ rights ordinance introduced by Seoul Metropolitan Office last year because of its clause on respecting all sexual orientations.

A spokesman for CCK, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that the organization is opposed to teaching school students about the pill.

“We think life is precious, which is given from God. And then children are also a blessing. We think life is incomparable and also … a result of love,” said the spokesman.

He said that the CCK did not have an official position on sex education but that it supported married life and an “appropriate sex culture in Korea.”

With many different stakeholders with differing views involved in the discussion on what to teach young people about sex, reaching a consensus can be challenging.

Youn said it is important to involve community organizations and parents in devising sex education, rather than preserving it as the domain of the ministry alone.

“A community, such as parent-teacher-organizations, should be involved in sexuality education. School should reflect the opinion of school parents, and at the same times school should try to make the parents understand what the school does for their children.”


Source: The Korea Herald

So, when did you have your "birds and the bees" talk? with parents/guardians? at school? What was it like? 
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Date: 2012-07-31 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k0dama.livejournal.com
Indeed, all my sex education in Korea was was "oh you will grow hair down there when you hit puberty" and "guys go through a voice change".

Real useful there.

Date: 2012-07-31 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noodroid.livejournal.com
just stay on the internet and that's all you'll need to know.

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xalexandriam.livejournal.com
lol i never really had the "talk" with my parents since i lucked out in having teachers who didn't mind answering all sorts of questions when it came to sex.

i think the extent of it with my parents was just to be smart and use protection, etc.

in re: to the article, the whole double standards thing is found everywhere. but it's good that it's being discussed in an article like this because it's a discussion that A LOT of countries should be having.

Date: 2012-08-01 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phililen3.livejournal.com
Someone actually asked in class in grade 8 why people make noises during sex. The teacher answered it. That teacher was fearless. She gave you all the facts, held nothing back.

Date: 2012-07-31 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julietislimited.livejournal.com
The organization also opposed the students’ rights ordinance introduced by Seoul Metropolitan Office last year because of its clause on respecting all sexual orientations.

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Date: 2012-08-01 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deerlike.livejournal.com
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Date: 2012-07-31 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plantbottle.livejournal.com
My parents never gave me the talk, I just sorta found out on my own. They gave us our first 'class' on it when I was in sixth grade.

I remember watching the news once, and the story was on sex education in China, and some random two university students there thought sex was hugging naked in bed.

Date: 2012-07-31 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamuya.livejournal.com
thats what i thought sex was when i was a preeteen. i thought if u saw someone naked you got pregnant instantly

but university? damn.

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamuya.livejournal.com
i saw boogie nights when i was like 12 and thats how i learned about sex

catholic school taught us about the reproductive system but not what happens when you have sex. idk it was just not helpful.

Date: 2012-07-31 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
THIS! We get taught the sperm and egg shit but not exactly how they get to meet. LOL.

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayamefan13.livejournal.com
Never got the talk from my parents, I found out on my own, on the internet. And also in class in 6th grade as well.

Date: 2012-07-31 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angel-9-lives.livejournal.com
I was like 5 or 6 when I got the talk. we have/had so many people in our family who were victims of molestation, my parents decided it was better safe than sorry. some of the aunts & uncles decided to wait though...or, tried anyway. one of my cousins went to tattle/ask questions because my barbie and ken were making babies, so it kinda forced the issue. ^_^;;

dun remember how it actually went...it's been over 20 years ago, so...:P

*shrug* we had sex-ed at school in 5th grade, but it was boring. most of us already knew the mechanics, and didn't really care about the technical terms for everything. -_-;;

the highlight of that class was when the teacher walked around the corner, and one of the boys ran up to the overhead projector thing and made the female diagram into a face. eyes on the ovaries, the womb was the nose, and he drew hair coming out of the fallopian tubes *dies*

she came back into the room just as he was trying to make the male diagram into a side profile of a man with a big nose XD;;
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Date: 2012-07-31 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturedichotomy.livejournal.com
Glad I wasn't the only one whose Ken and Barbie liked to do the nasty :3

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kei-enigma.livejournal.com
Later classes from sixth grade through high school address ... how to cope with sexual urges.

I hope this doesn't mean something along the lines of "sexual urges are bad, and you should feel bad" though.

I've never had the talk with my parents, like ever. The furthest my mom and I have gotten on the topic was something like "don't stick anything near or in your cooch." lol The rest was from the internet and talking about it with friends in the fifth grade.

Date: 2012-07-31 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nobodyelse-care.livejournal.com
Just how do you cope with sexual urges when you're a sexually charged teenager? Impossible I tell you, IM-F**KING-POSSIBLE!

I had to visualized my grandma in my head every time I'm feeling horny enough to have sex... I f**king hate my high school life, no joke. So much sexual frustration.

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nobodyelse-care.livejournal.com
The problem with teaching kids (and some parents) about sex education is that the majority of the kids (I knew) were so Goddamn immature! Yes it's called sex education, no it's not teaching you HOW to have sex!

Seriously, I think teaching sex ed at school would be more socially acceptable if they changed the name to "Biological Reproduction Education".

Thank God my parents were smarter than most parents! They taught me and my siblings when we turn 12 years old. Though they were pissed off when they found out that my younger sister was no longer a virgin when she was in highschool. ("At least we used protection, dad!" she said. "At the mother-f**king SCHOOL!? With 2 boys at the SAME TIME!? yelled my dad. "Your father & I didn't taught you about safe sex so that you can have safe sex! We wanted you to AVOID having sex, at least until you got married!" said my mom, face palming herself.) Worst day of our family's life tbh.
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Date: 2012-07-31 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinksparkles14.livejournal.com
Damn. Your parents' hairs must have turned white! O.O

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wondermusume.livejournal.com
My parents never had the talk with me. The internet showed me the way... hahahah lol.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airyclouds.livejournal.com
Same here, the internet really has no filters lol. Got my lesson of the "101"/clinical info at 12 as a presentation in my class but started being really aware of it once I was a freshman.

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebluemonk.livejournal.com
my dad to me about sex:

"son, i used to be a boy like you so i'm just gonna tell you this: YOU GET A GIRL PREGNANT AND IM GONNA TIE YOU UP BY YOUR FEET TO THAT TREE OUTSIDE AND CUT YOUR BALLS OFF."

Date: 2012-07-31 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nobodyelse-care.livejournal.com
Did it worked? As in, did it scared you? /curious

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Date: 2012-07-31 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harbour-jane.livejournal.com
when i was in first grade some girl a few grades older than me told me what sex was at recess. i didn't believe her lol. i thought once you got married you just magically became pregnant.

sex-ed at my school was the worst. i remember in high school the teacher had a girl and two guys go to the front of the class and the girl was given a candy bar. she told the girl to give one of the dudes the candy bar and have him take a huge bite out of it, wrap it up, and give it back. then the teacher asked the second guy if he wanted the girl's candy bar, which of course he said he didn't since some other dude just took a huge bite out of it. the teacher gave a speech to just the girls of the class about how your virginity is like the candy bar and no dude will want you if you're not a virgin. that is some bullshit. i still get mad when i think about it.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonelymoon.livejournal.com
Wow. That's some fucked up shit :(

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Date: 2012-07-31 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scubajr.livejournal.com
The thing that made me never wanna have a kid was the birthing video we watched in grade 9 gym/health class, where a woman had a natural delivery, and another woman got a C-section.

It was horrifying.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hisjulliet.livejournal.com
My parents never gave me the sex talk. I learned on my own.

I received my first sex education lesson when I was in 4th grade (and again in 6th grade) I remember all my classmates laughing whenever the teachers said penus or vagina, but I became mature very early, so I felt more embarrassed by my fellow classmates immaturity than from the lesson itself.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charlotterhys.livejournal.com
I was homeschooled! My sex education started... well, I remember when I was five or so and I had the illustrated kid book about how bodies worked, basically (in quite technical and nonjudgmental detail!). Both my mother and my grandmother had education degrees. I had many, many books. My parents were in general very openminded and educational. My father's immortal words to my older sister when she about 14 was 'if you're with a boy, just take your bra off yourself, trying to do it will only frustrate him' (or something to that effect). My parents were also quite open about their sexual history before they were married (though not at all in a creepy bad touch sort of way).

I also started reading porn on the internet when I was 10. >.> Through Card Captor Sakura fan fiction. Oh yeah.

I understand that my experience was not the same experience as most people. >.>;;

Date: 2012-07-31 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobotronic.livejournal.com
are you me? My first NC-17 fic was Card Captor Sakura. IT WAS SLASH, TOO. Good times.

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Date: 2012-07-31 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julietislimited.livejournal.com
I also never got the talk from my parents. I learned from sex education and fanfiction.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobotronic.livejournal.com
I accidentally watched a porn movie when I was 10. Then I did an internet search the next day, learned about sex, and moved on with my life. You'd think with Korean kids being so plugged in, they would know all this shit.....hopefully, most of them do. But until the older, more traditionally-minded adults get with the program, sex education in Korea is going to be abysmal.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibiyunie.livejournal.com
My mother tried, with the emphasize on tried, but she failed. I did not get it and she just quit with trying to make me get it. Of course, my curiosity as a eleven year old was fueled and google was my best friend in finding exactly what I wanted.

I was a little shocked I remember, but just accepted it for what it was. Now that I am eighteen and my sister is around that age, I can totally see myself being the person who has to do "the talk". LOL.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taylorniw.livejournal.com
Period talk in 5th grade. Never got the sex talk at home or school.

Internet is where it's at.

Date: 2012-07-31 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walnuuut.livejournal.com
yeahp same here

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Date: 2012-07-31 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggie0307.livejournal.com
When I was little and ask where babies came from, I was told Mommies and Daddies. Which was great for a five year old. Very clear and easy to understand.

As I got a little more older, when I had questions I was giving answers from my mom and aunt and grandma. They didn't shy away from the talk or get work up about it.

Date: 2012-07-31 05:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mochijang.livejournal.com
Never got the talk either.... I found out through fanfics LOOOOL. :|
Thanks a lot kpop.

Date: 2012-07-31 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilipute.livejournal.com
Never got the talk
Sex is not something we speak of and I'm really not sure what my parents think about sex-ed or anything like that

I started learning in 6th grade when they separated the girls and the boys and taught the girls about puberty and gave us mini boxes that had tampons and pads and showed us how to use them properly and stuff like that

that went on till eight grade when we covered the reproduction part in science class and the teacher taught us the basics about sex and stuff like STD's and showed us picks and basically taught us to be careful and wrap it up if you're gonna do it unless you want your shit rotting and falling off

Then in 9th grade I had sex ed and we went more in depth, and things basically went on like that until I took that human sexuality class and learned the really serious shit and had an even bigger break down of the female/male reproductive systems and sexual kinks and just A LOT of stuff

I think my schools did a really good job in teaching me about sex because I wasn't looking as shocked as some of these grown ass kids that were in the class, especially when it came to different kinds of things people are into when it comes to sex

Of course the teachers stressed abstinence, but it was obvious that they have to do that, but they all made sure the students knew that sex isn't something you go into all willy nilly and you have to be careful who you do it with and to take precautions whether you're a chick or a dude, and to especially not rely on no stupid teenage boys to bring condoms
of course some idiots didn't listen, but stupid kids will be stupid

Date: 2012-07-31 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cagallisakura.livejournal.com
I gave my friends their sex talk ._. GRADE FIVE trolololol I knew a lot by then already. I still know the most now.

My school hires a lot of speakers to talk to us about sex. None of them go the safe sex route probably cuz I'm in a catholic school. They talk about abstinence and iunno I think it's better this way. Like of course some people are still gonna sleep around anyway, but when you have real life people tell you real life stories, it hits you hard.

"Never be afraid that some guy is going to leave you unless you give him something sexual. Let him be afraid that he's going to lose you unless he knows how to respect you."
words of advice for everyone honestly.

Date: 2012-07-31 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsprincess.livejournal.com
I found out everything through the internet. But before that I thought sex was when you get naked and hug and then stuff comes out of the penis and then the vagina sucks it up... That sounds really horrifying now that I think about it.

Date: 2012-07-31 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scubajr.livejournal.com
I had a good laugh at this.

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