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omonatheydidSpike Lee’s Version of ‘Oldboy’ Has New Elements Meant to ‘Throw Off’ Audiences Familiar With Original
The possibility of an American remake of South Korean revenge film Oldboy has been a worrisome thing for a few years now. But this year Spike Lee was tapped to direct, which immediately made the new Oldboy a more attractive, or at least a more interesting proposition. With Josh Brolin set to star and Colin Firth playing the film’s revenge-seeking antagonist, things are looking petty damn good.
We know that Mark Protosevich is scripting and that he is basing his take on the existing movie, as well as on the manga that inspired it, but that he’s also writing new material to make this version stand on its own to some extent. We still don’t have concrete details about the new ingredients, but the film’s producer says that some of the new stuff is being created specifically to throw off audiences who know the original film.
In an interview with Collider, producer Roy Lee says that the new film is very similar in some ways to the Park Chan-Wook version, but that,
I’m concerned about adding characters and elements specifically to mess with the audience that is aware of the existing movie. The film that many of us know and love works specifically because it is an organic thing in which there are curveballs thrown at the audience, but ones which make sense in the context of the film’s story. I’m apprehensive about the idea of creating new stuff that exists only to toy with the audience, but we’ll see how that works out.
Lee also says that there is a “sort of different interpretation of that hallway scene” that they hope will turn out to be Spike Lee’s signature moment in the movie, much as the original hallway fight was a signature aspect of the existing film.
And those worried about whether or not the ending will be watered down in comparison to the Park Chan-wook film shouldn’t worry, as Lee insists,
Oldboy should shoot in March 2012.
Producer Roy Lee Talks THE RING, POLTERGEIST, and THE GRUDGE Reboots, A Darker Ending for Spike Lee’s OLDBOY Remake, and More
While on the set of Takashi Shimizu’s upcoming 7500, I got to sit down with a few other journalists and producer Roy Lee, who almost single-handedly spearheaded the J-Horror craze of the early 00’s, producing remakes of over a dozen foreign language horror films including, The Ring and The Grudge, as well as Martin Scorsese’s Oscar winning, The Departed.
We’ll have full coverage of the new, original, aviation-based horror film closer to the release date, but today we have a slew of updates on Lee’s very busy development slate. During the interview, Lee talked about rebooting The Ring and The Grudge, a new ending for Spike Lee‘s English-language Oldboy remake that he promises will be darker than the original, directors he wants to work with, spoofs of his own films, getting beaten to the punch by The Hunger Games, his excitement for remaking Poltergeist, the current state of Japanese horror and more.
(irrelevant parts of the interview have been omitted)
What do you have on tap after 7500?
Lee: We are planning to shoot Oldboy in March and that should start preproduction in late January.
Does anything remain from the Justin Lin version of Oldboy written by the Better Luck Tomorrow scribes?
Lee: This is a completely new version written by Mark Protosevich.
Is there anything you can tell us about the approach or style of the new Oldboy?
Lee: It’s very similar, but we’ve added new elements. Or, Mark Protosevich has come up with new elements to it that will throw off the audience who have seen the original movie because there are new characters and new situations that present themselves in a way that changes the story but eventually go in the same direction.
The ending of the film isn’t the same as the Manga on which it’s based. Are you going to retain some of the more controversial elements of the original last act?
Lee: The ending will be something that the audiences will all be…especially the fans of the original will be very happy with. In fact, some may consider it to be a bit darker.
Will there be a long take in the hallway?
Lee: There’s a sort of different interpretation of that hallway scene that is going to hopefully be Spike’s signature moment in the movie that we want to show in a way that we’ve never seen done in an action movie.
sources:
/film
full interview at Collider
On one hand, it's nice to see filmmakers attempt to create a new experience in their remake of a film and presenting something different rather than a shot for shot remake à la The Departed; however, this shit is irritating and condescending at best, it seems, to add new characters that change the story for the sake of disrupting fans' expectations, as opposed to filmmakers just trying to make a good movie. And the bits about the ending being "darker" and Spike Lee wanting the hallway scene to be his defining moment . . . ugh try harder tbh.
The possibility of an American remake of South Korean revenge film Oldboy has been a worrisome thing for a few years now. But this year Spike Lee was tapped to direct, which immediately made the new Oldboy a more attractive, or at least a more interesting proposition. With Josh Brolin set to star and Colin Firth playing the film’s revenge-seeking antagonist, things are looking petty damn good.
We know that Mark Protosevich is scripting and that he is basing his take on the existing movie, as well as on the manga that inspired it, but that he’s also writing new material to make this version stand on its own to some extent. We still don’t have concrete details about the new ingredients, but the film’s producer says that some of the new stuff is being created specifically to throw off audiences who know the original film.
In an interview with Collider, producer Roy Lee says that the new film is very similar in some ways to the Park Chan-Wook version, but that,
Mark Protosevich has come up with new elements to it that will throw off the audience who have seen the original movie because there are new characters and new situations that present themselves in a way that changes the story but eventually go in the same direction.
I’m concerned about adding characters and elements specifically to mess with the audience that is aware of the existing movie. The film that many of us know and love works specifically because it is an organic thing in which there are curveballs thrown at the audience, but ones which make sense in the context of the film’s story. I’m apprehensive about the idea of creating new stuff that exists only to toy with the audience, but we’ll see how that works out.
Lee also says that there is a “sort of different interpretation of that hallway scene” that they hope will turn out to be Spike Lee’s signature moment in the movie, much as the original hallway fight was a signature aspect of the existing film.
And those worried about whether or not the ending will be watered down in comparison to the Park Chan-wook film shouldn’t worry, as Lee insists,
The ending will be something that the audiences will all be…especially the fans of the original will be very happy with. In fact, some may consider it to be a bit darker.
Oldboy should shoot in March 2012.
Producer Roy Lee Talks THE RING, POLTERGEIST, and THE GRUDGE Reboots, A Darker Ending for Spike Lee’s OLDBOY Remake, and More
While on the set of Takashi Shimizu’s upcoming 7500, I got to sit down with a few other journalists and producer Roy Lee, who almost single-handedly spearheaded the J-Horror craze of the early 00’s, producing remakes of over a dozen foreign language horror films including, The Ring and The Grudge, as well as Martin Scorsese’s Oscar winning, The Departed.
We’ll have full coverage of the new, original, aviation-based horror film closer to the release date, but today we have a slew of updates on Lee’s very busy development slate. During the interview, Lee talked about rebooting The Ring and The Grudge, a new ending for Spike Lee‘s English-language Oldboy remake that he promises will be darker than the original, directors he wants to work with, spoofs of his own films, getting beaten to the punch by The Hunger Games, his excitement for remaking Poltergeist, the current state of Japanese horror and more.
(irrelevant parts of the interview have been omitted)
What do you have on tap after 7500?
Lee: We are planning to shoot Oldboy in March and that should start preproduction in late January.
Does anything remain from the Justin Lin version of Oldboy written by the Better Luck Tomorrow scribes?
Lee: This is a completely new version written by Mark Protosevich.
Is there anything you can tell us about the approach or style of the new Oldboy?
Lee: It’s very similar, but we’ve added new elements. Or, Mark Protosevich has come up with new elements to it that will throw off the audience who have seen the original movie because there are new characters and new situations that present themselves in a way that changes the story but eventually go in the same direction.
The ending of the film isn’t the same as the Manga on which it’s based. Are you going to retain some of the more controversial elements of the original last act?
Lee: The ending will be something that the audiences will all be…especially the fans of the original will be very happy with. In fact, some may consider it to be a bit darker.
Will there be a long take in the hallway?
Lee: There’s a sort of different interpretation of that hallway scene that is going to hopefully be Spike’s signature moment in the movie that we want to show in a way that we’ve never seen done in an action movie.
sources:
/film
full interview at Collider
On one hand, it's nice to see filmmakers attempt to create a new experience in their remake of a film and presenting something different rather than a shot for shot remake à la The Departed; however, this shit is irritating and condescending at best, it seems, to add new characters that change the story for the sake of disrupting fans' expectations, as opposed to filmmakers just trying to make a good movie. And the bits about the ending being "darker" and Spike Lee wanting the hallway scene to be his defining moment . . . ugh try harder tbh.
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Date: 2011-11-29 12:57 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:00 am (UTC)It's gonna bug me forever.
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:01 am (UTC)how?
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Date: 2011-11-29 11:41 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:04 am (UTC)having gripes about an adaptation of an adaptation of a japanese manga is kinda silly isn't it?
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-29 01:22 am (UTC)surely people will be the same way with Lee's version.
and then for the video game that accompanies it lol jk
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:08 am (UTC)plus jack nicholson.
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:11 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-11-29 03:35 pm (UTC)but infernal affairs was so good in its own element. the cultural context of films is hard to transplant from one movie to the other.
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Date: 2011-11-29 05:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-29 01:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-29 01:16 am (UTC)just #stop
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-29 01:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-29 01:33 am (UTC)"josh brolin / colin firth / in a spike lee joint"
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:28 am (UTC)On a side note, I thought Colin Firth wasn't confirmed?
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-29 01:33 am (UTC)i wonder if he'll take questions
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Date: 2011-11-29 01:46 am (UTC)i'll still see it tho, but ...bleh.
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Date: 2011-11-29 02:38 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-11-29 03:53 am (UTC)but if the director is fine with it and all that jazz go ahead,but if he gains success I hope they don't shun the original and give it praise (looking at you The Departed >:|)
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Date: 2011-11-29 04:27 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-11-29 07:48 am (UTC)You just need to bloody watch the original versions and that's it. Why the remakes? The tv shows (so where are they about remaking Misfits? because LOL), the movies. Ugh!
Worst part is when you come one the internet everyone agrees so it's really Hollywood being a crazy moffo and not even the people.
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Date: 2011-11-29 02:36 pm (UTC)We just can't help ourselves
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Date: 2011-11-29 06:11 pm (UTC)This movie will be no different...