[identity profile] empressmaruja.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
Chito Miranda, main vocalist of Philippine rock band Parokya ni Edgar, defended KPop against the haters with the following tweets...



Translation:

Chito's follower:  Well, unless (those fans) understand what those (KPop singers) sing.  That's why a lot of people are hating because those fans do not understand what those acts are singing in the first place.

Chito Miranda:  So what if they do not know or understand what those acts are singing?  As long as they enjoy what they are hearing, we should respect that.  Music is not just about the lyrics, it's also about how it makes you feel.  Why is it fun to sing "Butsekik" by Yoyoy Villame even if its lyrics do not make sense?  Or what about "Five Years" by Sugar Hiccup?  Anyway, we all have different reasons why we enjoy music.  Sometimes it's because the singer is beautiful.  I like this song as long as this singer sings it.  Everyone has their own likings.

Chito Miranda:  I love pop music.  I love Girls' Generation, 2NE1, Gary Valenciano, and Sarah Geronimo.  What I don't like are those Pinoys who imitate KPop*.  They're so cheesy.

Chito Miranda:  Girls' Generation are so badass! Their songs are beautiful, they even look cute dancing.  Those Pinoys imitating KPop are nothing compared to them.

*  He was referring to this and this.

Source:  Philippine KPop Convention on Facebook, written and translated by me.
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Date: 2011-05-01 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeit91.livejournal.com
name dropping xlr8 and popgirls....
CA-LASSY.

im getting tired of the philippines hallju wave. time to start supporting our own, js

Date: 2011-05-02 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mls-addxn.livejournal.com
time to start supporting our own, js

IA. but "our own" should stop releasing Kpop-inspired (to make it politically correct) and covers of songs. Where is OPM circa 2003-2006?

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Date: 2011-05-01 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaylapoo.livejournal.com
wait what happened why is everyone mad why is everyone hating

Date: 2011-05-01 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vizallati.livejournal.com
OT but what is going on in your icon?
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Date: 2011-05-01 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doodledreams.livejournal.com
PREACH CHITO PREACH. :))
And I look forward to your performances at our alma mater. hahaha

Date: 2011-05-01 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vizallati.livejournal.com
Whoot Chito supporting SNSD, 2NE1, Gary V and Sarah Geronimo. And it's not like he directly said XLR8 and Popgirls...
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Re: could of picked a better song OP..

Date: 2011-05-02 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woohyun.livejournal.com
or the I love you girl one.
you're so hot is just a mess XD especially the mv haha

Date: 2011-05-01 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woohyun.livejournal.com
Preach it!

Date: 2011-05-01 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geureiseu.livejournal.com
all hail to Chito Miranda.

Sadly there a lot of ignorant peeps in the Phils that don't know anything about KPOP and all they could do is bash them. Personally, I don't really care about those haters. KPOP is here so they just need to fckin deal wit it! LOL.

Date: 2011-05-02 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addictine.livejournal.com
thumbs up chito

Date: 2011-05-02 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyxcami.livejournal.com
Chito ily<3

Date: 2011-05-02 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirari.livejournal.com
I don't listen to Filipino music. I am actually a huge fan of KPop.

I will say this though, to hate on the Pinoys "imitating" KPop is the same as saying that KPop imitates Western music. So what if they took influence from KPop. KPop takes influence from Western music all the time. Whether it be the beats or the imagery. I.E. Teddy grew up in America, even if for a short time, he was still influenced by the culture in America.

Had those Filipino groups song and PV had been produced by Teddy, JYP or some other famous Korean producer, are you still going to call it imitating? And if not, then why say the they are imitating KPop when the only difference is who produced the final product?

Obviously, KPop is not 'famous' (and by that I mean shown on MTV or VH1, like how Spanish music is shown on some TV stations nationwide) in America. In Asia, Asian artists are popular, so if the Philippines or any other Asian country wants to use the KPop/JPop formula why hate? If you were the CEO of a label you know you'd be doing the same thing to.

Date: 2011-05-02 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeit91.livejournal.com
since kpop is having a huge blow up in the philippines right now, anything relating to pop groups are labeled as k-pop wannabes, unless proven otherwise by their debut/songs/clothing.

with xlr8 & popgirls, their debut was heavily influenced by suju and wg (coming from a very big fan of theirs)causing a whole lot of pinoys to be pissed calling them unoriginal/cheesy/kpop wannabes. but slowly but surely they are getting better and more original...but it doesn't help that kpop is so popular that everything they do is seen as kpop-ripoff by blind kpop pinoy fans& the crab mentality pinoys are accustomed to.

i dont get why flips dont support their own. tsk tsk

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Date: 2011-05-02 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirari.livejournal.com
I just looked up that Twitter account and it's not even really Chito Mirandan LoL it's some fan of his

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Date: 2011-05-02 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ababobaby.livejournal.com
It's not that I don't support the Philippines... it just doesn't us. I mean, especially the girls? The make-up, the clothes just don't suit it.

Date: 2011-05-02 01:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-05-02 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mls-addxn.livejournal.com
i think theres a way to do p-pop inspired by opm, [b]maybe do a mix of both.[/b] its not impossible. i think p-pop is a good thing and has potential, but we need to do it right and invest time and money into it, instead of rushing and being unoriginal.

A+. Can we get those entertainment agencies to read this? :3

Date: 2011-05-02 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeit91.livejournal.com
lol u didnt respond to me! XD

but yes!! TAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Date: 2011-05-02 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyosai.livejournal.com
i like what he said :)

Date: 2011-05-02 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toleecharm.livejournal.com
I AGREE CHITO. <3

Date: 2011-05-02 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wind-drifter.livejournal.com
nice one Chito! astig!

Date: 2011-05-02 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mara-ciro.livejournal.com
CHITO MIRANDA HAS SPOKEN. All forms of disagreement are invalid.

I think there's potential in P-Pop but I think it should be well-thought of and not rushed just to catch up with the rest of the world.

Date: 2011-05-02 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
BUT WHAT DOES ELY BUENDIA THINK?

is ely buendia even relevant? this is a serious question, i only know and LOVE eraserheads i'm not up on my filipino entertainment news (aka i haven't been to nakupo in awhile)

Date: 2011-05-02 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izon-no-niwa.livejournal.com
nagtatago si ely buendia

oh wait, just in case. ely buendia and his group (pupil) recently released a song TnT (tago ng tago) hahaha wait are you fil?
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Date: 2011-05-02 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kpopxd.livejournal.com
What I don't like are those Pinoys who imitate KPop*

OHMYGOSH! SUPER AGREEEEEEEE! I mean, yes I'm filipino and all, but please stick to your OPM music because that's what Philippines is all about. Not some half filipino and half japanese/korean trying to sing in tagalog with a kpop concept. Not to be mean or anything.. It's just irritating when I watch filipino channel, that's all...

Date: 2011-05-02 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mystarfish.livejournal.com
like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNmEdOOFccU

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Date: 2011-05-02 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaneyaney.livejournal.com
I don't blame the artists who ~imitates~ kpop since their company thought that strategy. It's just major record companies here PROMOTES MORE foreign acts than our own and judging what I see on their fb accounts it's really happening.
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Date: 2011-05-02 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izon-no-niwa.livejournal.com
chito miranda is a he

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Date: 2011-05-02 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jela-ow.livejournal.com
ily Chito! I used to avoid Ppop like the plague lol. I remember when I first saw Pop Girls' first MV and hated it so much. It was such a poorly made MV and looked like it was blatantly copying the concept of Wonder Girls. They've improved though and that's something. XLR8 has so much potential. I loved I Love You Girl but hated the MV. I do think that Ppop has so much potential if only it was marketed properly and companies actually commit themselves to producing quality music and artists instead of recruiting random good-looking boys who don't even want to become artists (e.g. 1:43).

Amber Davis released a pretty nice Ppop song a few years ago if anyone cares to check it out. She's great live but her dancing needs work lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JxWcpjcMi8

TL;DR PARAGRAPH OF RANTING~

Date: 2011-05-02 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moronicus-kyla.livejournal.com
I follow his account and was impressed how by how he dealt with all the kpop haters who kept trying to get him to say "OPM RULEZ KPOP SUX!@#$" 8D Chito's such a boss 8D I like the pro-active stance that some local artists are taking, trying to improve their music to get people to like them instead of bashing and forcefully trying to win the attention of listeners.

I don't understand why people can't just let people like what they like. I hate it when people insist that loving one genre (kpop or... violent rap in my case =))) removes from you the capacity to love another simultaneously. I mean, why do people even bring nationalism into the picture? Who's to say that the people who line up to buy a kpop album aren't the same crowds who cheer in OPM concerts or the same people who vote in the daily charts for Filipino music? To be fair, some kids are like this, but to generalize is just ignorant and disappointing. Besides, I'm sure that not all kpop fans listen to kpop exclusively. People don't have one dimensional tastes okaaaay. It's going to suck if everything sounded like kpop/acoustic songs/electronica/rock. Personally, when I get tired of kpop, I listen to all sorts of genres (rap, rock, bossa, classical etc) then when I get tired of that, I go back to kpop or something else.

As for the "imitators", I feel quite sorry for them. I guess they can sing and dance and be their own artists but they are unfortunately under companies that are out for money. If you're under a company like that, you're subjected to what they want. And what they want is something that sells at the moment (kpop) and something that won't cost lots of money (thus the low-budget videos, wardrobe, sound mixing etc). I understand that yes, companies need to make money blahblahblah but I think that any company in the music industry has a responsibility to foster creativity and create music. The way I see it, none of the companies who handle these groups give a fuck about that responsibility and so their products are lackluster. Honestly, they're wasting money, talent and a lot of other things.

I can say that I don't like XLR8's... artistry. I'll skip You're So Hot and their styling because people have already bashed those enough. I have the autographed album (haha lol don't ask) and so I can evaluate it on its own, no kpop biases or whatever. The packaging was of poor quality and the layouts were nothing special (not an inherently local problem -- I have OPM albums with gorgeous packaging). The songs were all a bit... terrible, especially production-wise. The mixing was so unbalanced, the arrangements were so old-sounding (not in a ~vintage~ or ~old-school~ way, mind you), the lyrics were a bit cheesy (I'm so sorry, the taglish was so out of place) and the melodies weren't very special. The boys can sing (IDK live because I watch ASAP lol) but the songs were just terribly executed and were either over or under processed (too much computer), making the best song this pretty ballad that was in English and this song called I Love You Girl (the intro of which is being called a blatant copy of Beast's Just Before Shock, or something). So, even without the "imitator" image, I think the album is quite bad and the fact that they are being touted as rip-offs just makes things much much worse. This isn't the boys' fault really -- they didn't make the songs or spend money on it. I blame their management -_-;;

LOL sorry, I just had to get this out. I think these feelings have been sitting in me for a long time but this particular article awakened them =))

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Date: 2011-05-02 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jela-ow.livejournal.com
A++++

And I do so love your icon. Kangin looks so adorable!

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Date: 2011-05-02 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyunaepark.livejournal.com
GO CHITO!<33333333
Alright, tbqh I could never get into p-pop even though I'm mostly pinoy. Though I grew up in a home where my mom would always play ballads (:
my friend introduced me to RPM and it's a nice refreshing change from kpop every now and then ~
even my parents agree, having a taste for any music is your choice. It defines you as a person because none of us are the same, we're all induviduals with different tastes.
Oh, and the first thing I thought after reading this article was that those people might have been Dara haters. OTL.
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