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After making negative comments about BTS, EXO, and Wanna One members on a Greek television show, host Katerina Kainourgiou has issued an official apology.

Previously, Katerina Kainourgiou and other panelists for the television program “Eutixeite” held a segment about TC Candler’s list of “The Most Handsome Faces of 2018.” The list includes BTS’s Jungkook and V and No. 2 and No. 5, respectively, as well as Wanna One’s Kang Daniel at 11th place and EXO’s Sehun at No. 15.

As Katerina Kainourgiou and the other panelists introduced Sehun, they made comments such as, “[He] dyed his hair red, but it looks awful. I don’t like it. That’s a waste of the ranking.” In regards to Kang Daniel, remarks such as “That’s a woman” and “Is that a man? Is he gay?” were made.

The hosts continued with such observations as they also called V a woman and remarked, “People have bad eyes.” Regarding Jungkook, they declared, “He looks like the other Korean idols. Korean men are ugly. Where are the men that look like these idols. I’ve never seen them.”

After receiving criticism for what fans deemed xenophobic and sexist statements, Katerina Kainourgiou made an official apology through her Instagram. She apologized to fans of the idols for her comments, and stated that the show would make “a tribute to their artistic sides” on Monday.




source: soompi, naver, katken85, _ yoonoir

Date: 2019-01-07 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
Because xenophobia, homophobia and toxic masculinity is so humorous, no. This basic b*tch. Fuck her and fuck this apology.

ETA: Significantly calmer after watching a YouTube video on how bee colonies are formed. Thank god for science clips and PBS studios.
Edited Date: 2019-01-07 02:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-01-07 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sforza.livejournal.com
throw transphobia in there too, they're going for an asshole bingo

also oh oh oh bee colony video link please!!!

Date: 2019-01-07 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
Here you go! https://youtu.be/nZlEjDLJCmg

The title implies that it’s about how bees make honey but honestly it kind of goes on a tangent and covers almost everything about bees lol.

Date: 2019-01-07 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myungung.livejournal.com
I'm gonna say first that I don't think I'll watch the video, and comment just based off the article.

TC Candler's list is definitely not the list to follow, since it's only 1(?) person making the ranking usually. and many times it's more of pandering to fans if I'm not wrong (haven't been following his list since many years ago)

and then off to the triggering part. as an Asian male, I think it's quite tiring to always be seen as feminine, and "ugly". i'm sorry that our genetic mix is not to your liking and ideal masculinity.
never understood why people feel the need to demean others' looks on a media platform, and then realise you made a huge mistake if people are unhappy. I mean what are you expecting when you go off and derive joy from such stuff?

Date: 2019-01-07 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
Lmao.

Waaaaay to unite the craziest K-Pop fandoms. This Christmas miracle no one asked for but all of us can enjoy.

Date: 2019-01-07 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyjenkski.livejournal.com
they really went for the ultimate kill! and selected the really popular ones too!

Date: 2019-01-07 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebloomroom.livejournal.com
Mte and wannables had TIME binch! Only a few days left to rally their troops, they were not playing.

Date: 2019-01-07 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
For real XDD They couldn't have picked worse.

Date: 2019-01-07 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
that's not humor, that's racism.

Date: 2019-01-07 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pwrpuffgrl.livejournal.com
IDGAF they can get all the hate, they deserve it. Disgusting.

Date: 2019-01-07 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goshipgurl.livejournal.com
OP can you please put the IG embed under a cut?

ofc they would use the "it was just a joke guys" excuse

Date: 2019-01-07 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphiredeity.livejournal.com
at least the trash was right when they said exo are the kings of kpop

Image

Date: 2019-01-07 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katheli.livejournal.com
I'd feel bad for her/them for getting threatening messages but also....I saw that video and honestly they deserve the backlash. They literally called one of them a "thing", they pointed out "Asian facial structures" as a negative point as to how someone didn't deserve to be on the list, they somehow managed to be racist, homophobic, sexist and every other awful thing to be in one go.

so idgaf, I hope you get fired bitch.

Date: 2019-01-07 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebloomroom.livejournal.com
Who ever thought we’d see the day army, exo-l, and wannables unite?

Date: 2019-01-07 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaelissi.livejournal.com
Yaeh, I don't condone threats in any form, but let's not pretend like kpop fans just went crazy over some constructive criticism. In 2019, if we can't solve racism, I hope we as a human race can at least relearn what laundry is for hanging outside and what's for keeping inside

Date: 2019-01-07 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
Racism needs to die. I'm tired of it. It's 2019 ffs.

Date: 2019-01-07 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yxerin.livejournal.com
she’s a fuck-up for sure, but man are those comments on her ig post embarrassing

Date: 2019-01-07 05:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] purpleglaceon
OP you forgot the '' around the word apologizes

Date: 2019-01-07 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
Sure threats are a bad thing but what they said was terrible. I hope their show gets cancelled and they fade into irrelevancy and that theyll get fired
Edited Date: 2019-01-07 05:21 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-01-07 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the3rdjester.livejournal.com
Actually, they are already kinda irrelevant here in Greece. Her show is on one of thrashiest, if not the trashiest channels on TV, which not many people watch. So this means, I don't even know if they'll get fired. They should, but idk if it will actually happen.
Edited Date: 2019-01-07 10:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-01-07 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeries-amethyst.livejournal.com
I don't support hate or threats of violence. Negativity in general is a huge no-no. However, if you're going to be racist, xenophobic and sexist, then you deserve to receive the same kind of negativity you dished out. How can people think that it is okay to say any of these things and pass it off as humour? Absolutely disgusting! People need to wake up and realize that this mentality is wrong and needs to be changed. People apologize because they want to minimize the backlash, but you know most of them haven't learned their lesson and are still trash human beings that will just try to keep their behaviour under wraps. When is racism going to end? When are human beings going to actually learn how to love and support each other instead of tearing each other down?

Date: 2019-01-07 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohbubbajoan.livejournal.com
if that is an apology..... racism is fucked up period they fuck off with that "those who felt offended" or that "tribute"

Date: 2019-01-07 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandm13.livejournal.com
This is disgusting, but I'm not surprised sadly. I've heard the same remarks from my relatives and it makes me so upset. What infuriates me the most is that they don't even think they are saying something wrong

Date: 2019-01-07 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neoreulwonhae.livejournal.com
Yes! They think it's just common knowledge that Asian men are inferior. They don't even stop to think, "wait, is that racist?" because they're SO brainwashed to think of it as a FACT. I can't even fathom it.

Date: 2019-01-07 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pepsi-twist9.livejournal.com

this is the apology??? is this a joke? pic.twitter.com/7Xv9QLBNjV (https://t.co/7Xv9QLBNjV)

— bethany (@heavenlyjjk) January 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/heavenlyjjk/status/1082290907226013697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


What an apology/tribute

Date: 2019-01-07 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyjenkski.livejournal.com
valid point. kpop is everywhere and these 3 groups are on the top of their game now. anything you say about them gets magnified a hundred fold.

Date: 2019-01-07 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neoreulwonhae.livejournal.com
I can't believe people can still be so blatant with their racism. Like I can't even understand why someone would even still be racist at all, first of all, but then to say it out loud and not realize what you're saying? Like how fucking stupid are you? I hate this "joke" excuse, it's not a joke, it's racism. Just because you're trying to make it funny doesn't mean it's not fucking racist! This is basic shit people! I'm just so over it. Like how can you say that a whole race/ethnicity is ugly and act like you did nothing wrong. I just can't even fathom it. People act like they're not racist anymore because they like black people now but they're still racist to everyone else. Ugh. SO tired of people shitting on Asian men when they're literally the most gorgeous in the world, these basic ass crackers (and I say that as a basic ass cracker) WISH they were as gorgeous. UGH.

Date: 2019-01-07 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neoreulwonhae.livejournal.com
And she's basically just saying "sorry you're all little bitches, I'm gonna try to make you shut up so thanks for shutting up" NO BITCH. We're not gonna shut up. I hope she keeps getting comments (death threats are stupid and unnecessary but being called out and schooled is VERY necessary).

Date: 2019-01-07 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neoreulwonhae.livejournal.com
Sorry but I have more to say lol. Imagine if someone came out and said "black people are ugly", "mexicans ((as a blanket term for all latinos, which don't even get me started)) are so ugly", especially imagine "white people are ugly"? There'd be a way bigger outcry. But because we're all brainwashed with this "Asian men are ugly and feminine" LIE then we're just supposed to think it's funny. I'm so fucking over it already. It's not funny, it's racist and phobic of all kinds. Get with it, it's 2019. If you're gonna be that fucking willingly ignorant then go back to 1765 or some shit. BYE.

Date: 2019-01-07 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 921227.livejournal.com
Warranted!! Also, ive seen comments that basically boil down to, 'well they picked idols who are only attractive to young people. ' & 'they shouldve chose an actor' etc & people who say these things about Asian men will say them about idols, actors, athletes, anyone - Daniel Henney to kang Daniel

Date: 2019-01-07 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neoreulwonhae.livejournal.com
Yeah, as if with them putting up Lee Byung Hun or something they wouldn't still say, "Asians are ugly" because they believe Asians are ugly regardless of which Asian it is. Has nothing to do with anything else.

Date: 2019-01-07 09:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-01-07 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the3rdjester.livejournal.com
Ugh, I've been both angry and embarrassed since the moment I saw this. The first time kpop is mentioned in the same sentence with Greece and it's for something so negative.

I'm glad they got called out, but I doubt they have and will learn what they said was fucked up. The apology was the typical 'sorry you got offended' without actually addressing the real issue. And their tribute to BTS? Fucking please. And the fact they didn't even acknowledge the members of the other two groups they insulted says a lot. Just a simple damage control, without actually caring. Although, what would you expect for those who managed to include racism, xenophobia, homophobia AND transphobia in few sentences.

I hope they get fired and/or sued, but, since the show is on a trash channel of the Greek TV, which not many people watch, I don't think they will be serious repercussions.

I'm also all for defending those who have been insulted/attacked, but for the love of God, don't stoop to the level of those you're addressing by telling them to die/kts/etc, even if you have a lot of anger and really want to swear at them. Be the bigger person.
And for fuck's sake, DON'T MOCK GREECE. I have read so many insulting comments about Greece's bankruptcy and some other nasty things. It's both annoying and heartbreaking.

Date: 2019-01-08 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dropit87.livejournal.com
Fuck that show

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