Date: 2018-10-07 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katheli.livejournal.com
the post I should have waited for lol

the iHeart clip is really cute, Nutella is the "jam of the devil" lmao no lies detected. Also love how they talked about strawberries for a whole minute there. Random as hell. And poor Tae being called out twice to phrase his statement in English and just going ... while Jungkook, model student, tries to help him out. Also Jimin was really cute here. And NamJin hard-carrying.

the Japanese cover looks great but I can't at Jimin looking the tallest in one of those. Who did he bribe to get that effect.

Tae's vlive I've already talked about, he was pretty quiet for the most part just staring at the camera with his giant eyes. Made for an interesting experience watching lol. Hopefully he misunderstood that producer saying he shouldn't record his song with another guy, like...wtf. Also inconsistent cause they've recorded tons of male/male duets.

Date: 2018-10-07 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mallmouse.livejournal.com
The reason they'd spent so much time talking about strawberries was that they'd one took part in a show which had them pick out the freshest strawberry etc. I remember seeing it some months ago

NUTELLA IS EVERYONE'S REASON FOR LIVING. Pity Suga didn't say much. His mom's gonna start telling him off about how even V's English improved so much again

Date: 2018-10-07 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayuai.livejournal.com
lol about the nutella, I just think he meant it tastes good, but it's not really good for you??

Date: 2018-10-08 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yxerin.livejournal.com
well, he did say it was awkward doing the live by himself, esp bc he hasn't done one in a long time. he did give me a 12 year-old-kid-with-add vibe though, but he sometimes has those moods

Date: 2018-10-07 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekobot.livejournal.com
Are there more photos from the Times article? I don't want to have to register to watch them but really like what is shown in the tweets!

Date: 2018-10-07 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekobot.livejournal.com
Oops, sorry, just noticed the photos are from last year...I thought they might have done a full set of backstage pics this tour like the J-Hope one!

Date: 2018-10-07 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dropit87.livejournal.com
Love everything here lol

Date: 2018-10-07 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alterlife.livejournal.com
Tae seemed annoyed when he mentioned that the producer said that his song wouldn’t make sense because he sang it with Jimin and not a girl “well I guess it’ll never get released~” then rolling his eyes. Lol

His overall demeanor was so aloof and strange. The two times he gave a big smile were worth it tho. My misunderstood artistic prince 👑

Date: 2018-10-07 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekobot.livejournal.com
It's so dumb and homophobic. This reminds me of him going ham over that male dancer troupe performing in heels and I love how he sometimes manages to be so openly unbothered about conforming to bullshit masculinity.

Date: 2018-10-07 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alterlife.livejournal.com
That’s what I always liked about him. He isn’t all “no-homo” about things and just goes with the flow.

Date: 2018-10-08 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekobot.livejournal.com
I hope he stays like this forever

via GIPHY (https://giphy.com/gifs/v-bts-3l2MPIFZDMVwbEXO8H)

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Date: 2018-10-09 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekobot.livejournal.com
2015! I looked up the link for you:

it's a real breath of fresh air to see all these dumb dudes looking uncomfortable and nopeing out and then it pans to V looking like this, haha. There's a second part where he actually goes on the stage to try out dancing in heels (and is surprisingly good at it!) which I think you can find by just looking up v heels on youtube.

Date: 2018-10-08 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunlight-kisses.livejournal.com
yeah i like how he can be very anti no homo but one moment that really stuck out to me where i thought "oop guess he still has some learning to do" (as does everyone) was that run bts where they go bungee jumping?? and he was saying how his little sister did it so easily and he was all i am a MAN she is a GIRL i should not be scared to do this and it was nagl

but that was also years ago so hopefully he's learned since then!

Date: 2018-10-07 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
Why is Taehyung so petty? Like dude needs either some more media training or a better brain to mouth filter. He opens his mouth and some controversy erupts.

I’ve tried the brand VT and thus far unimpressed.

Suga living my dream by being mentioned by the Bulls.

Date: 2018-10-07 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankies.livejournal.com
lmao so you'd rather he doesn't denounce the homophobic remark thrown at him for the sake of not looking "petty", or whatever? huh, cute priorities.
Edited Date: 2018-10-07 09:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-10-07 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
When did I say that?
I was actually talking about how worked up he was over his jackets...
But go off I guess?
Edited Date: 2018-10-07 11:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-10-07 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankies.livejournal.com
girl what, i saw no controversy over any jackets? and he didn't sound bothered about it, not really

Date: 2018-10-07 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
Did I say he was bothered? I said he was worked up, worked up enough to be petty and mention that they were revealed earlier than expected.

Unclench already.

Date: 2018-10-07 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankies.livejournal.com
i mean, english isn't my first language, but those read a lot like synonyms to me kkkkk anyway, he was just talking about it (https://twitter.com/milktae_jpg/status/1048476715763163136). seems to me like you're reading too much into it, maybe you should take your own advice.

toodles

Date: 2018-10-10 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
Seems like you’re being a defensive stan.
It’s not that serious.

Date: 2018-10-08 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katheli.livejournal.com
K-fans said he was just being funny with his tone and words when he mentioned the jackets, I don't think he cared that it was "revealed".

Date: 2018-10-07 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pourtant.livejournal.com
lol pls idols are media trained enough as it is, let tae live

Date: 2018-10-07 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
Dude really needs a better outlet. I thought art was helping. Lol.

Date: 2018-10-07 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
I haven’t tried VT yet simply cuz my friends have told me it’s not designed for lasting in hot/humid weather (which I live in) nor for oily skin (which I have), so sadly I probably won’t bother lol.

Date: 2018-10-12 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gigabytexx.livejournal.com
Kind of get what you meant. Like when he mentioned Namjoon rejected his version of Spring Day, then him murmuring about cutting his mullet bec some people don't like it.......etc. I feel it was so petty lol. But I always try to think positive that it's just his nature, he's the type that gets too sensitive over a lot of things. Also he's AB, that explains many.
But his face is still handsome so I dig it
Edited Date: 2018-10-12 01:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-10-12 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
I feel like he lacks some maturity, but I guess his stans don’t care so it’s all good?
Plus it’s funny watching the messes he makes. I enjoy his pettiness sometimes.

Date: 2018-10-12 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gigabytexx.livejournal.com
I'm too anti to his stans with the whole "why u people always blame taehyung!11 why always him!!1" as if he gets the shittiest treatment. If Taehyung is petty then his stans are the pettiest.
I'm not sure it's because he lacks maturity........ I just think he's a weird dude in general. There are many instances where he just shout out of nowhere and members didn't know how to react (and ignored him), and it's different from Jin eventhough Jin is also in a lot of times being weird. Idk to explain but it's just different lol.

Date: 2018-10-12 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
Actually it reminded me of Burn The Stage where Jin and Taehyung fought. It was over something so inconsequential and they made up quickly. But his stans were going around acting like Jin making light of the situation was a personal affront.
It’s not that serious and his stans are clearly cray-cray.

I like all of BTS, some more so than others probably, but solo stans are just a strange alien creation to me. If stanning makes you that delusional just take a step back and log off. BTS will not lose out on your devotion chile.

Date: 2018-10-12 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gigabytexx.livejournal.com
Lmao yeah when I watched that episode all I was thinking was “okay, 2 close friends are having a fight. Nothing strange. Next,” and then things are just blowing up like idk, Taehyung is not a baby 😅 i feel like fans should not care whatever issues their oppas are fighting about, who are you, mother in-law? Lol

Ah same! I like them all and so far I don’t have anyone I hate haha but yeah I also have favorites~ thing about solo stan thing that annoyed me is just because I use certain member’s pics as my icon/header then it’s automatically i’m a stan of said person, then my opinions are being disregarded (this always happens in Twitter). Like I like Jungkook the most bec he’s always smiling and adorable lol, but I often use Tae in everywhere bec he’s just handsome. These solo stans tend to require people to only use icon of our bias, and that is annoying :(

Date: 2018-10-07 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
I’ve already mentioned most of my thoughts on Taehyung’s vlive in the previous post, but yeah, unless he had misunderstood his producer, or there was a wild mistranslation, that producer’s comment really sounds like passive homophobia, not to mention hypocritical considering they’ve covered songs like WDTA without changing pronouns before. That being said, I feel bad for Tae not being able to realize his song the way he intended. He seemed quite fed up with the response he received. Anyway please pull a Jin i.e. record it with Jimin and release it anyway lol.

Date: 2018-10-07 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayuai.livejournal.com
lmao tae should just take Jimin to the golden closet and let Jungkook produce it for them. They can just release it through soundcloud anyway.

Date: 2018-10-07 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekobot.livejournal.com
This is definitely a level of English that will be lost on most Korean speakers but could there be anything more poetic than him going against this homophobe by recording the track and releasing it....out of the closet

Date: 2018-10-08 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
to the first reply, a+. the following reply, a++. fucking majestic.

Date: 2018-10-07 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garnetstar38.livejournal.com
The times article was...something. A few online wondered why they keep sending old white men to interview BTS and in this case I have to agree. His outright condescending tone in regards to RMs English was a big wow. I’ve seen comments on Omona complain about RM’s syntax but they never questioned his intellect because of it. This is a man that has taught himself at least above average speaking skills in 2 other languages. And this white European dude speaks how many? His preoccupation with them not showing their abs during their concert? He diagnosed Yoongi with obsessive compulsive disorder? Then saying Yoongi having mental health issues makes him the only interesting one? I...really? And he had some legitimate critics here and there but they were inter dispersed beweetn so munch ingrained toxic masculinity & white cultural superiority that I couldn’t move on from anything else.

Date: 2018-10-08 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yxerin.livejournal.com
yeah, i usually like cynical takes on the k-pop industry but that was... a Mess. the transcription of namjoon's comment was fucking wild, what kind of pettiness lol

the way the dude introduced yoongi by mentioning his "history" with depression and ocd was so weird as well, it felt ridiculously out of place and had nothing to do with the topic at hand. i also don't get why (western) interviewers put such a big emphasis on yoongi's mental health issues. he mentioned social anxiety and compulsions in one line on a track on his mixtape, yet journalists act like that's what he mainly raps about.


Date: 2018-10-08 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garnetstar38.livejournal.com
He summarized their personalities by reading an unauthorized Bio?

The critique of the Kpop industry is justified & valid. He said they are basically squeaky clean monks without a hint of irony no doubt to further his own bias that Asian men are sexless? Uhh ya think maybe they didn’t tell you the truth & didn’t feel the need to reveal their personal life to you a stranger? 😂

It would of been nice if he dug deeper but he didn’t seem too interested and might have already known what he wanted to write & wasn’t arsed to find out more.

Date: 2018-10-08 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yxerin.livejournal.com
yeah, the guy definitely went into this with a preconcieved bias. he straight-up lied too about the abscene of sexualised dance moves, there’s always hip thrusts and crotch grabbing galore in pretty much all of their title songs lol

Date: 2018-10-08 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mallmouse.livejournal.com
' (despite the claim of my fan guide that he has an IQ of 148) his occasionally baffling syntax gives the impression that he is channelling Joey rather than Chandler'

WHAT?? WHAT??? Fuck you. How many foreign languages does this jerk speak? Pronunciation and whether it follows the standard form is one thing, content and intelligence is another. Really want to see more being written on the male ideal starting to change and whether those that used to fit that ideal start feeling threatened hmmmm

Date: 2018-10-08 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meggicchi.livejournal.com
i feel like ppl who criticize someone else's language skills are ppl who have never taught themselves a language. I've been learning english for years and even though I'm decent at writing it, speaking it out loud is struggle. I really admire Namjoon for that.

i do wonder who is the producer who told him that crap? it just doesn't make sense, not only because bts has always sung love songs by themselves but also because?? fans would OBVIOUSLY want it?? it's just so stupid hhhh. oh well, i hope jimin and taehyung will have noticed that fans very much want it and will record and release it later.

Date: 2018-10-08 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shawarmafordays.livejournal.com
Great round up op!

Also regarding the VLive, he kind of seemed really subdued. I don't know if he was tired or something but he seemed so introspective and restrained compared to what he's like normally. I think he's lost a little weight as well? Tae mentioned he's been gymming with JK recently.

But that comment sounded so homophobic. I don't know if it's translated that way but he seemed really mad about it :/

Also fuck that The Times article, I read it and my blood was boiling throughout especially about the comments about Joon and the weird preoccupation with Yoongi's mental illness. I wish they could send better journalists to interview them

Date: 2018-10-08 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rockerista03.livejournal.com
That Times article is so off. Old white men continue to plague this world sigh.

I like Taehyung smiling but I also love his more subdued side. idk if it was some lost in translation situation but the way the producer went and said that the song he wrote with Jimin in mind wasn't something that should be sung by two guys came across as homophobic. Like what I said in the previous post, he was probably pissed off to the point that he wouldn't release the song even if he had already recorded it with ADORA (the female producer who sang with him). Just let him release the song with Jimin jfc it was obvious he wrote it with Jimin in mind for the duet and he's probably written a lot more songs with Jimin in mind but the only song about Jimin that we've heard and has been officially released so far was 4 o'clock. ia with a few people above that he should just pull a Jin and record the song with Jimin and release it anyway.

Also Jin's visuals in the iHeartRadio video my god how do I deal

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