Today In Who asked for this: American Youtuber Bodyshame Pristin Kyla in a 22 minutes video

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

Omona are you in the mood for this youtuber/idol wannabe explaining why you "double standars international kpop fans" are wrong while all those kpop beauty standars are totally cool??

Not another american youtuber trying to "explain" korean culture

Source: Edward Weird,

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[epona.livejournal.com]

at what point as a 25 year old man do you look at your 22 minute video bodyshaming a 15 year old girl and think "hm maybe this isn't right"

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

he's 25? yikes

[benihime99.livejournal.com]

...
When people feel the need to start a video with that much of a disclaimer (both in writing and then explaining it) it usually means they're gonna say some shit so I'm gonna pass

Also I have no idea who that dude is

[symmetra.livejournal.com]

hoooooo my god this guy is insufferable

[jcdhwg.livejournal.com]

Not gonna watch this video bcz I don't want to give him views. He's the worst. Definition of a try-hard.

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

do i really want to watch this
edit: i did and i posted a summary below

[marizl.livejournal.com]

Wait isn't he from the Philippines?
He's such a pos.

[pearlychoco.livejournal.com]

he's filipino-american, born & raised in California.

[shazz-chan.livejournal.com]

I think I've seen maybe two reaction vids of his before so he's familiar.... And yeah I remember him being irritating, this is ew. Like who asked for your thoughts anyway m8

[blackphillip.livejournal.com]

jfc i couldn't last one minute watching this mess

[existingisfunny.livejournal.com]

i'm not watching but how did ppl ever see this guy without getting "i don't trust you" vibes

[lulufairybubble.livejournal.com]

This is the same guy who trashed Milk Makeup's Blur Stick bc it didnt cover his severe acne and he got a pimple. If the blur stick gave him a pimple it was bc he didnt wash it off of us face. He went to bed with a dirty face. He said it shouldnt have given him a pimple even tho he slept in it bc it says it doesnt clog pores.

Homeboy! That doesnt mean you should just not wash it off your face before you sleep.

[http://users.livejournal.com/psychedelico_/]

"He said it shouldnt have given him a pimple even tho he slept in it bc it says it doesnt clog pores."

i'm screaming lmfaooooo what a fucking dumbass

[blck-ink.livejournal.com]

so i apparently people asked for his opinion.WHY???? just because he knows a couple of kpop starts he feels like he has the right to talk about a stranger's body and what they should change about it?

the way he was talking about her was disgusting! talking about her body as if he's her doctor foh!! also.CAN PEOPLE STOP COMPARING THEIR OWN DAMN BODIES WITH OTHERS!!! every one's body is different and develops differently. the girl's 15, her body is still changing and is far from overweight. imo she looks healthy which i think should be good thing.

idk if i'm even making sense but he really made me angry with the way he was talking about her body and how she should lose weight. disgusting!

[saemcrh.livejournal.com]

The way he talked about her was disgusting, along with the tone it was almost accusatory? As if she'd committed some crime, and he was pointing out she didn't but also that she's a nice really!

Besides the fact that everyone's bodies grow and develop differently, the female body develops much differently than that of a male. So for him, not only as someone who's not her but also as a MAN (with no medical knowledge to boot), to speak on her body and what she should be doing is gross/dumb af.

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

before i watch this video, legit question: who is this guy? ive read about him before but i have no idea what he does for a living. is he a youtuber? if yes, what kind of youtuber? beauty, react, vlog? is he trying to become a kpop idol?

for all of you who dont want to watch the video, here's a quick summary:

- the first 3 minutes are just him ranting about how he is not fat-shaming kyla, how this is his opinion and other stuff. i didnt really listen to it cuz i was already annoyed of him when he started talking.
- when he first saw a picture/gif of kyla he was shocked and surprised to see a female idol who's more on the thick side, the kpop idol version of thick, slightly pushing more towards being on the overweight side
- her weight doesnt make her a bad person, shes a sweet girl, a talented dancer
- talks about when you are an idol you are in the property of your company (no really bruh), they train you for years to shape you into an idol and make money of you so he's surprised that pledis decided to debut kyla in the state that shes in
- kyla is not a bad person but pledis did her dirty
- he doesnt understand the argument that people always say when they talk about her weight (the "oh she's 15, she's still developing")
- talks about physical examination he had in elementary school, when guys in high school can have weight training as an elective course, go to classes where they gain muscles and stuff, he's pretty sure a girl at kyla's age can do the work to shed off a few pounds
- it could be that because shes an idol and under stress it causes her to eat unhealthy
- the next minutes hes just rambling about idk shit
- one again says that hes not bashing kyla
- being an idol is her job and as with all jobs you need to show up to work looking "a part" (? i dont really understand it, its at 15:15 if someone wants to correct me)
- as an idol kyla is expected to look like the other members of her group, he then blends in a text that says "and by that i mean physically lol, she can be unique of course but not in a way that will attract her the attention she or the company wouldnt want"
- then says "and if you're surprised by this welcome to fucking kpop"
- then asks if it "wouldnt be better for kyla instead of having to stay in the shape that shes in and other people be like "you know, fuck everyone else, you're beautiful the way you are etc. etc.", and her having to mentally try and deal with this every day and saying "i am beautiful", why not look after her body more, help her shed off some of that weight, he thinks she would be so much more happy with that
- he thinks pledis is to blame, if they would care about her or her group they would have put her on a fitness plan to help her gain a more ideal body shape for being an idol
- he thinks its great the she still goes on stage and performs with a smile on her face
- the last 3 minutes are just blablabla

[epona.livejournal.com]

he's a makeup youtuber/vlogger, lately he's been trying to break into music with former idol aoora so ig he thinks he knows ~all about the inside of kpop~

[ontamitaco.livejournal.com]

I've never been able to watch any of his videos, I find him extremely irritating and tryhard af. He can't do makeup either so I would love to know what exactly is his appeal?

[epona.livejournal.com]

mediocre men getting hyped up for doing something stereotypically feminine, what else is new

[glider.livejournal.com]

there are some questions you shouldn't indulge your audience on and this is one of them. I'm not even gonna watch this (mostly don't have time to waste my time watching 22 minutes of a guy validate peoples' rudeness towards a teenage girl) but what a bad look...

[saemcrh.livejournal.com]

So this grown ass dude who keeps getting surgery and wearing too-light foundation because he's clearly insecure, is fixing himself and his poorly applied make-up to come at a teenage girl?

Does trashing her make him feel better about himself? Does he think it makes him better than her? How about working on his own problems with self-image instead of adding onto hers.

Knew he'd show his ass sooner or later.

[dropthecrates.livejournal.com]

no one cares about his ugly opinion

[saemcrh.livejournal.com]

If this video is 22 minutes long, imagine how long it was before editing... yikes.

[giriboy.livejournal.com]

jw... how does he still have enough money to just do youtube? u’d think all his sponsors would be pulled by now, if he had any in the first place

hope any of u watching have adblock enabled

[jazzygyu.livejournal.com]

Why would his sponsors be pulled? I'm just curious?

[torontok.livejournal.com]

This asshole should spend his time doing more productive shit, like learning how to match and blend his foundation.ugly ass khota

[mewgical.livejournal.com]

Youtuber's are the worst. I wish the Red subscription and lack of sponsors now would fully bury them and they'd die off.

After seeing goshipgurl's summary I'm glad I didn't watch. He's a POS. Why shouldn't Kyla be able to say she loves herself the way she is? I hate fatphobic (and racist) assholes who think someone should only love themselves if they adhere to western beauty standards.

The only thing that surprises me is a good portion of the comments are slamming him for this. I saw a few of the comments said that Kyla's brother saw this and she now knows about it. Can anyone verify if this is true? God that sucks if she saw this or heard about it. People need to stop policing and armchair doctoring this young girls body.

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

according to kyla brother twitter he already watched this video and last nigth commented with fans about it

Give me 22 minutes and we're gonna find out whether or not to end someone.

— Luke (@LukeyMassie) October 14, 2017 (https://twitter.com/LukeyMassie/status/919070130696372225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

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then kyla asked him to delete some tweets.... i assume she already watched this video or at least a part to understand what her brother was talking about *sight* :(

So out of respect for my sister she asked me to delete the tweets. I personally feel I have been creating conflicts as it is on social med-

— Luke (@LukeyMassie) October 14, 2017 (https://twitter.com/LukeyMassie/status/919082309571166208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[symmetra.livejournal.com]

i think she (kyla) knows about it?? her brother made some tweets about the video and he said that kyla told him to delete those tweets. i'm guessing she knows about the EXISTENCE of the video but idk if she knows the content. i feel so bad for her...

[jazzygyu.livejournal.com]

I only watched one video of him and the video I saw (which I think is really popular cuz i saw it on facebook) I hated because of his misuse of AAVE to sound edgy. I notice his AAVE is gone in this video though that's how I know he was using it to sound funny so I never gave this guy the time of day. Anyways, I skimmed through the video and the thing that got me the most was him saying "I'm surprised they debuted her in her condition" what condition??? she is a perfectly healthy girl...I know people asked him for his opinion but even so he should have known better than to upload this...people where already on edge with how she is being treated in Korea...

[mmmalvina.livejournal.com]

i agree with his point about kpop being first and foremost about looks and how anyone who cries "but talent! good personality!" is delusional. another good point was that international k-fans tend to subject idols to their own beauty standards anyway, calling skinny girls names while praising curvier ones. and ofc pledis did kyla dirty.

but then he goes on to say that age and teenage hormones don't matter, that she must be eating unhealthy, etc. i admit that i too think she looks quite chubby, but then i remember how i myself gained weight at 14-15, out of nowhere... my eating habits didn't change and i always ate healthy anyway, i was an athlete as well, so there was no explanation other than hormones. my mom even brought me to endocrinologist to check whether that was normal, it turned out it was. i'm pretty sure i looked just like kyla, so if anyone would've called me chubby back then, that would've destroyed me. i remember myself a happy kid precisely b/c i started worrying about my looks much later. i certainly don't look back and think "oh, i was quite chubby when i was a teenager", i had a healthy size, just not a skinny one. and this weight did go away eventually, so edward should at least google before spewing some biology bs. but this whole situation is a reminder to myself to be nicer to kids who already have enough models to compare themselves to.

[xoxoluv517.livejournal.com]

He makes i sound like Kyla shouldn't "fight the system" but rather conform to it, which is hella dumb especially if that system does more harm than good.

Like, does he think that LGBT rights and acceptance (it's not 100%, but it's still getting better) just came out of thin air? No. We had Stonewall and AIDS outbreak and assassination of Harvey Milk, etc. in order to be a the level we are today (and that's just America). If it wasn't for those people who fought the system, he couldn't freely joke that Wonho should hop on his dick.

But then again, he definitely has internalized colourism (so obvious from his foundation shade to his real shade) and is a conformist himself.

[dior-chic.livejournal.com]

I think I was subscribed to him but I was sick of him for awhile, but this is the final straw. Bye you piece of shit

[demeulemeester.livejournal.com]

yeah when this bullshit popped up in my sub box i was pissed and i promptly unsubscribed. fuck him.