Scarlet Heart: Ryeo Ep 14-15 Discussion Post

[keytfelt.livejournal.com]

Synopsis: An adaptation from a Chinese drama, this story set up in the early of Goryeo regime. Hae Soo, a 25 year old girl from modern era got transported back to Goryeo dynasty and got trapped in the conflicts and struggles between princes of Wang's House.

Cast: Lee Jun Ki, IU, Kang Ha Neul, Hong Jong Hyun, Nam Joo Hyuk, Ji Soo, Baekhyun, Seohyun
Director: Kim Kyu-Tae
Writer: Jo Yoon-Young
Network: SBS
Episodes: 20
Release Date: August 29 - November 1, 2016
Runtime: Monday & Tuesday 22:00

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sources: AsianWiki, DramaWiki

Comments

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

At this point, I'm ready for So to start killing people off. I am look at you prince #9. I can't believe it became so messy now. I honestly think this shouldn't have been set as a 20 episode drama...it should be maybe 30 at least since unlike the Chinese version with #4 becoming King after his father, So has two of his brothers becoming King before him. That transition period with the other two kings are somewhat important in terms of character growth. At least give it a few episodes for Mu's reign since the 2 yr time jump completely threw me off with SoSoo becoming a bit lovey dovey. Like when did Haesoo kinda start accepting So's feeling????

I also don't get how Hae soo didn't put things together when the king was poison if she knows she didn't do it..it had to be a servant girl. Haesoo frustrates me so much...

Based on next week's teaser, it looks like they are going to put an implied bed scene between SoSoo. If so, I know where they sre going with this. Since they only have like 5 episodes left and they still have quite a bit of ground to cover including a few years of So's reign as King

[modestgoddess79.livejournal.com]

Yes it is common sense that if Soo didn't do the poisoning then the other servant girl did.

[sweetestbliss1.livejournal.com]

I know I'm late on this but...

I agree that they should have made this drama longer. Aren't Saeguk's typically longer, too? Even a four episode extension would have helped the story. I don't understand why they didn't make it longer...especially if a drama like "Jealousy Incarnate" can get 24 eps...that I REALLY don't understand. I thought it was just going to be a typical 16 episode drama but then saw that it was 24 and I was like WTF? I love Gong Hyojin and Jo Jung Suk but.....that drama is just...the story line doesn't deserve 24 episodes.

And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the So/Soo relationship was poorly developed. I *think* it was kind of like that in the Chinese version, too, but I just don't feel anything for their relationship. He definitely likes her more than she likes him and we never really got to see those moments where she started wavering. Those time jumps didn't help, either.

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

I think the length of the saguek depends Llike I know they have some which are relatively long like 6 flying dragons which is 50 but there are also stuff like Moonlight Drawn By Cloud which has only 18 episodes. A 4 episode extension would have helped but this is a preproduced drama so idk if they would be able to have an extension. I haven't seen Jealousy Incarnated so I can't really say..is it really dragging along..

The type jump killed it for me...like I didn't undnerstand when her heart start wavering...it really did blindside me to see them so lovey dovey and watching haesoo wearing the hairpin.. They really should have shown when she started truly accepting his advances.

[sweetestbliss1.livejournal.com]

Yeah. That's true. But I wish they would have given it more thought and made it longer for the sake of quality. The original was quite long and it seems they have quite a bit of footage so they should have made it longer. I think if they had made it longer they would have had more time to develop the relationships and story, but alas...

Yeah. I'm just really not into Hae Soo/So. It's so underwhelming and her pining for him all of a sudden has me like "Girllllllll really." I admit I'm a bit biased because I like Hae Soo/Wook more, but...I'm also mad we got robbed out of a kiss between the two of them. I guess there was that almost kiss but still...

Sad at what could have been with this drama. I'm still enjoying it but all the underdeveloped story lines and characters is just so off putting. The whole Hae Soo/Won Hee friendship was so WTF and random. I was like "Um, what? when? how? where?"

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

I know since apparently this show is suppose to have a huge budget...they should have thought this out.. The way it's edited really bothered me too...like...I question if they watched the finished project before it aired because even with the first few episodes, something was REALLY off. Right...I think this could definitely been a longer drama..maybe 30 episodes because there are soo many characters that plays a part of this show so giving them time to develop is important but nothing can be done now.

Yeah..I'm actually ok w. so/soo but it's weird seeing her pine for him since he was into her for so long...i don't understand how she changed.

I know...this drama could have been SOOOOO good if it they put more thought into it..The friendship thing was weird too.. I'm still wondering what is the purpose of Prince #9 in t his drama..like I kinda understood him in the Chinese vers and I know he plays a role in the Korean vers but he seems like such a waste of space in this show.

[sweetestbliss1.livejournal.com]

Yeah. With Soo/So I think my issue with them also is that he was such a mess in the beginning? They made him kind of a psycho and unstable and he kept threatening her (although I know this means NOTHING in k-drama land). His advances were obvious, but her...I just can't. I kind of cringe whenever she looks longingly at him because I just can't justify it enough.

I liked Prince #9 up until he started plotting with #3. The whole emoji face scene with him was hilarious and his whole thing about Soo being more popular than a Gisaeng was funny. He was good comic relief for awhile. And OMG they need to seriously give us the 411 on Prince #9 and Chae Ryung. Like, what is their connection?!

I almost really hate what they're doing with flashback scenes. They're so misplaced and just don't add much since they feel like an afterthought. Although I did appreciate the flashback with young Ji Mong and Moo, I thought it could have been introduced a bit earlier. Or, actually, scratch that, I wish they would have given us another flashback of young Ji Mong and Moo to show their bond and friendship. It would have given us more insight about why Ji Mong was so loyal to Moo (besides the fact that he's also abiding to the King's orders).

The sudden bond between Hae Soo and Baek Ah was random, too, but I was able to accept it because of the flashback...albeit again, horribly misplaced.

WOMP.

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

I'm not surprised they kinda made him some kind of violent/unstable guy but I'm a bit surprised how he changedin the series...Right...his advances were obvious but she ignored it for so long. I wonder how she was able to not notice for so long. I can't really justify it either since it looks her feeling really change during Mu's reign. But we don't really see how their relationship developed in that time period.

The emoji thing was cute.. I think the plotting thing was kind of unavoidable since base on the Chinese vers. he's not going to be on So's side that's for sure. As for prince #9...and Chae Ryung, if they go the Chinese route, I THINK I know their connection and what the drama is going for.

They probably are an afterthought..I wouldn't be surprised. The flashback with ji mong and moo was nice. So as a kid was soo cute. I feel you...showing pieces of their friendship would be nice.

It was...I think it's because in the Chinese vers., Iu's character and Prince #13 were really good friends and since the episode where Lady Hae dying had Baek ah confronting Hae soo and then the next episode had him trying to do his best to stop the force marriage, they basically had to shove a scene in there to show how they "bond".

[sweetestbliss1.livejournal.com]

Yeah. The time jump just didn't do their "relationship" any favors. She just all of a sudden decided to accept him after two years? Yeah, okay.

Man, I'm so sad about Moo. He was so nice and just a big old teddy bear.

I only loosely watched the Chinese version while my mom was watching, so, no spoilers about Chae Ryung! I do remember though that Chae Ryung's Chinese equivalent eventually dies I think?? 4th prince has her killed because she did something wrong? Can't remember exactly.

Is Baek Ah's character's Chinese equivalent the one who got exiled for awhile and then his wife drowned herself? I remember they said they combined two princes in the Korean version. Can't remember which.

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

I know...like they should have thought this out..maybe not spend more than HALF the series on focusing on when Taejo was king to at least give some room to develop the story line of when Moo and Yo are king.

I feel bad for him too...it was rather unfortunate and it's sad that he had to die like that too.

Yeah...you are correct about that.. If I remember correctly the in the Chinese vers. she was trying to create a rift between the couple and I forgot what else she did.. I just wondering how they would kill her in the Korean version since there's no way they will kill her the same way in the Chinese vers. The way she died in the Chinese vers was gruesome...idk how the Korean audience would react to if they killed Chae Ryung the same way like in the Chinese vers. Prince #9 is most likely gonna die as well...there's no way around it.

Yes...Baek Ah would be based on that guy who got exiled. Idk what other prince he would be based on.

[sweetestbliss1.livejournal.com]

Ohh okay. Hmm. Did they boil her alive? I don't know why that's the first thing that came to my mind.

This just got me thinking back to the Chinese version and I wish the Korean version added the scene where the other slaves take Haesoo's bracelet or whatever. Don't know why that scene stuck out to me so much in the Chinese version. It just made 8th prince and her relationship that much more sad.

I should probably stop comparing. Haha.

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

You are correct actually. Boil/Steam her to death. Idk..I can't see that happening in the Korean version. Idk if Korea had that as a punishment..like I read China actually had that as a punishment back in the day.

Ah...I haven't seen all the episodes of the Chinese version, I have watched a few episodes here and there though.

Maybe...I just hope they don't screw up the ending for the Korean vers.

[sweetestbliss1.livejournal.com]

Oh yikes. That's so inhumane. Maybe in the Korean version they'll burn her alive. IDK.

Let's cross our fingers for a decent ending...

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

Yeah....China was quite creative with how it tortured people during that time period. Idk...for Korea, I can imagine her getting hanged, drinking poison, maybe decapitation, or bury her alive. Idk if they would cut her down like they did with Eun's family. I wonder how they will kill #9..I can see him being poisoned as punishment.

I know...I'm praying for a decent ending...like apparently it's suppose to be a happy one but idk... It was also advertise that this is suppose to be sadder than the Chinese vers but we shall see how it works.