Not Your Average Netizens Episode #whatever: TWICE: Successful and Sexist?

[jesaray.livejournal.com]

Another episode, another attempt to not bore you listeners silly! This week we welcome back into our fold our dear Kamilia Kiara, back from fighting a bout of the Zika virus (not really, but you were sick for a while, chickie).

We discuss whether BTS is now better at being Big Bang than Big Bang themselves (according to Daily Dot). Titans collide with simultaneous single releases from SNSD member and ex-member Tifanny and Jessica! It's a fight to the fandom death (well mostly a fight to get Tiffany's song outta my head). We wonder what the hell I.O.I has got going, poor Neil from Teen Top and of course the new power rookies: TWICE! And all in a manageable amount of time. Aren't you proud of us? Listen rate and review sha sha SHA ❤

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Comments

[obscureauthor.livejournal.com]

The problem I have with this podcast is that honestly it feels low key bitchy. I've listened to multiple episodes and on some level I feel that the mockery that generally gets associated with Kpop is coming from the speakers as well.
This may not have been the intention but this is what I felt.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

I think that's probably a fair assessment and is something we might look to address moving forward. I like to think that NYAN has been a group of people hashing out how we feel about particular articles versus being a dedicated news source. As such there are times were we sound like the average kpop fan which is honestly low-key bitchy in general.

If this becomes a problem, it might be something we look into assuming we attempt to move more towards an actual news review show, but currently we're just a couple kpop fans that voice our opinion on news topics!

Would you like the show better if we were more unbiased in our comments? (It's impossible to be unbiased in our reviewing of things imo, but we could take a less kpop-fan approach to some things.)

Thanks for listening and for your input!

[obscureauthor.livejournal.com]

I think in general there is a lot of contempt towards kpop stylistically and it feels weird listening to that from fans.
While i realize it's impossible to be 100% objective when fans talk, I think there is an abject lack of variation in opinions and sometimes it is "hurr durr i like the drama" which honestly is a bit condescending.
Also since you talked about the show not necessarily a 'news show' but the speakers would be expected to be on some level informed about the issues they were talking about (one such episode was where you debated Bobby's 'diss track')

Anyway Thank you for taking the time to respond to me.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

I do think part of that comes from the fact that a lot of us have been in the kpop scene for quite a while. I don't know where we particular come off as hurr durr I like the drama though, since I do think most of us don't necessary like the drama or are tired of dealing with it. (That's mostly how I feel anyways, but this could different between all my fellow casters!) Thank you though, I'll try to keep an eye out for that.

I don't particularly remember the bobby diss track episode, but I do believe that came out when we were a little bit younger in terms of the podcast. I know for ME at least, I was way more willing back then to speak on stuff I didn't know 100 percent. I've tried to back down on speaking from things I don't know as much about, or make it clear that I just don't care and try to let the other podcasters go for it. Generally with how news moves and how busy all of us are we don't know for sure what all everyone wants to talk about. This is probably a structure issue with our show that we should most definitely address though.

Thank you for your input, really it helps a lot, and knowing you listen means a lot. We do want to improve the show so that most more people enjoy it, that's always the goal.

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

"We discuss whether BTS is now better at being Big Bang than Big Bang themselves"

Discuss what???? No discussion needed everyone knows......

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

It's in regards to Daily Dot implying that BTS is trailblazing and changing kpop "for the better"

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

Well that's what spawned the conversation in this podcast so yeah. I don't think any conversation needs to happen on this topic because it's clear BTS didn't trail-blaze or change anything for the better in kpop. But you already explained it in the podcast so I don't need to repeat it.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

Yep hahaha.

Thanks for listening!

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah I mean you hit the nail on the head with this one, and the capitalistic nature of idols and kpop in general is something I used to bring up a lot on the podcast. The harsh reality that people don't like to discuss is the fact that everyone's favorite is really just property to their label, to be used and produced however makes them the most money. Unfortunately I didn't bother playing devil's advocate on this topic like I usually would just because I don't think it's always appreciated when I speak honestly about the business side of the Korean entertainment market.

The reason we gave western examples was just to talk about how different it is. It's a simplistic approach, but we're also trying to keep the pods as close to an hour as we possibly can which is why I think we didn't go more in depth. So we just spoke from a western fan perspective which is really all we try to provide now and honestly it's really weird when you look at it at face value. I think most people who listen to the podcast probably know about the culture and their approach to these things at this point to be honest so I think mostly it was just us (me in particular at least) venting just about how strange it all feels being that I'm a western fan.

I hope people come and see your post though if they just looked at the difference as simple as we laid it out because you've knocked a quick glance at why it's like that very well! Thank you cause I think you did it better than I could ever dream to haha.

Thank you as well for listening again, it means a lot!