[identity profile] chastainy.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid


In the Vine above you can see the manager raise his hand at Jungkook, while Jungkook flinches back in fear. Army is not having it and has taken to BTS' Instagram and BigHitEnt's twitter account demanding they apologize/issue an explanation for this.


Vine: Rin
Words by me

Mess! I feel bad for him, they've had such a busy schedule lately!
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Date: 2015-12-09 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scheisse.livejournal.com
despite being overworked, i thought they had a pretty decent company that treated them as the sole bread winners they are. the way he flinched makes me think this wasn't just a one-time thing.

ugh, i'm pissed. these kids don't get to sleep or really do anything but work and this is how they're treated?

Date: 2015-12-09 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm-casablancas.livejournal.com
"ugh, i'm pissed. these kids don't get to sleep or really do anything but work and this is how they're treated?"

It's all about the freaking $$$$$, they don't give a fuck about idols as human beings with rights. It sickens me.

Date: 2015-12-09 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatwitchyshit.livejournal.com
:( It's so ridiculous that they feel the need to treat these kids this way, they already work so hard. Even if they didn't, no one deserves that.

Date: 2015-12-09 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yohan94.livejournal.com
i really need some insider knowledge/explanation on why the hell all these managers are abusive to fans and/or idols. it can't just be bad apples bc there're too many of them at this point.
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Date: 2015-12-09 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simprov.livejournal.com
mte.
i remember ages ago i read someone say that managers sometimes are people who trained to be idols but failed so they could be bitter about it or something. idk the validity of that but its something to think about for sure

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Date: 2015-12-09 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mlmello.livejournal.com
the fact that the manager is doing this to the youngest - and minor - makes me even so angry. not that any abuse with the other boys is acceptable, but damn it, they should be taking care of jungkook...

and this is from their dvd, right?! it's actually something that is on an official bts product. I can't imagine how bad and worried his parents must be seeing this. that's awfull.

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Date: 2015-12-09 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
welp there goes holding back. this son of a bitch better watch his back if he ever laid a hand on my bb

Date: 2015-12-09 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abcd123.livejournal.com
On one hand the video is so short, and I've seen a lot of things get taken way out of context, on the other hand his reaction was so quick like he anticipated it, that it really can't be passed off as "taken out of context".

Big hit is horrible when it comes to addressing issues honestly, but this really needs to be spread so they can at least ask the members what is going on.

Date: 2015-12-09 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annieshoe.livejournal.com
seems more like something taken out of context with how short the video is. looks more like jk/rm instinctively responding to a sudden movement tbh

Date: 2015-12-09 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scionofawhisper.livejournal.com
This is what I thought too... It didn't really seem like a threatening gesture to me...

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Date: 2015-12-09 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wishesgranted.livejournal.com
That clip is way too short to draw any firm conclusions, IMO. I do hope that K-ARMYs are involved though, as I feel like they're more likely to get a response from the company and obviously they're in much closer proximity to BH and the boys. I'm really hoping this is something taken out of context or a misunderstanding because otherwise this company is going to have a LOT of explaining to do.

Date: 2015-12-09 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happydirections.livejournal.com
apparently this guy has a rep with k-fans as it has been mentioned in another post. is he actually one of the managers? i know of hobeom and two of the other guys (the tall one with the glasses and the tall one that appeared with them on the 'run bts' episode) and the boys seem to have good relationships with them; seen fooling around with them, joking and them doing their jobs. but i know next to nothing about this guy and i have seen him around but never saw the boys really interact with him (please do tell me if i'm wrong).

anyway, i really don't want to jump to conclusions but it is worrying, whether it was real or not. some people are playing a dangerous game and taking it to far though by speculating about certain things and they need to be careful with that. i think most of us also know that you shouldn't judge a situation based on a gif/short clip.
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Date: 2015-12-09 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocketqueen.livejournal.com
yeah he appears in different bangtan bombs but i've never seem the guys interact with him (maybe because they were filming). i thought he was their former manager and that he was fired or something but looks like i was wrong.

anyway i don't want to judge either on a one second video but i really hope he didnt raise his hand at jungkook. things like this make me feel so pissed off.

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Date: 2015-12-09 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm-casablancas.livejournal.com
Who the fuck do you think you are to dare to raise your hand against a human being such as this precious kid. Shame on this TRASH.

Date: 2015-12-09 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostintheechoes.livejournal.com
how do we know that it's something different than what we are assuming? this could be so many things.

Date: 2015-12-09 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com

OK that's way too short to assume anything

Date: 2015-12-09 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
This didn't give me a visceral discomfort like these types of videos normally do since it's so short and so quick, and there's no sound really...but I think BigHit should still clarify what's happening bc if he really is threatening Jungkook in a serious way, that isn't appropriate at all.

Date: 2015-12-09 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sra-interesante.livejournal.com
this clip is so short ..... not even sure what i should be judging
reminds me of that clip about a CEO hitting one of the nine muses girls with a paper fan(?) ....
i hope this is just a missunderstanding : /
that kind of people should be incharge of other human beings safety

Date: 2015-12-09 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llevellin-in.livejournal.com
I remember this clip with 9Muses too. And it was not looking like just a joke.

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Date: 2015-12-09 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayuridoll.livejournal.com
I don't get what I am supposed to be seeing. I need to see the full video. :/

Date: 2015-12-09 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friedchickeneu.livejournal.com
I never understood how managers could ever hit their idols - or how people could hit other living things at all.

Date: 2015-12-09 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m. (from livejournal.com)
the vid is too short to tell if it was a serious threatening gesture or just a joke~
however, i still feel iffy about this because kookie was sporting a bruise on his cheek in one of the latest vids.
might as well be from something else but yea...

Date: 2015-12-10 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ocean-pig.livejournal.com
Isn't that makeup? It looks like it was on purpose. I think if someone did that to him the perso would be long fired.

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Date: 2015-12-09 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaninasan.livejournal.com
Kookie's reaction just makes my heart sink tbh, imo it's obvious that he's anticipating being hit :(.

This is one more thing on a list of shady shit that Bighit is doing, there are also rumours that Bangtan aren't being paid fairly either.

I'd rather give the underage idol the benefit of the doubt in this situation than a manager that's a representative of a company that's overworking and allegedly underpaying the idol. Regardless of how short the clip is or if it's being taken out of context.

Date: 2015-12-10 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ocean-pig.livejournal.com
Jungkook hasn't said anything so I'm not sure what benefit of the doubt should be given. I think it's unfair to speak on his behalf.

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Date: 2015-12-09 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soyymilk.livejournal.com
:( this is so wrong. the way kookie flinches makes me believe this isn't an isolated incident??

in saying that we don't know the context and we don't know if he was actually going to hit him? the clip is really too short to tell. i think before the entire fandom goes after this guy we should at least know all the facts beforehand. At the same time, it's not v surprising that idols are being mistreated by their own company.

these bb's need a long break. they work so very hard and to be away from home and **allegedly** being treated badly by the ones supposed to be taking care of them..... well i feel for these boys. it can't be easy. i'm at least glad they have each other.

Date: 2015-12-10 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smyers92.livejournal.com

And he flinches. That's happened before. This is common. That's not a good sign. Not at all

Date: 2015-12-10 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peachdrug.livejournal.com
To those who are questioning about the validity of the actions/the clip is too short to be assessed, this is one of the things where you have to consider the k-fans reaction to it. There had been complaints about a manager who is rude to the boys, in airports and during schedules itself. I remember a fanacc of Singaporean fans who bumped into them on the streets said that the boys were scared by a manager.

A lot of stuff are kept on the down low but k-fansites, who must've noticed these things more than what ifans could from off screen, are beginning to pull receipts on BigHit's mistreatment on the boys. I hope they'll take action on this, which I doubt cos BigHit never takes responsibility

Date: 2015-12-10 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephantasm.livejournal.com
i-fans are really fucking obnoxious when it comes to this. k-fans keep shit hush hush a lot until they feel like they have to say something and i-fans always come to the defense of a faceless company. it's so tacky.

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Date: 2015-12-10 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocketqueen.livejournal.com
there's another video of (what people are saying) the same guy hitting v here (http://pinkchole-shinfinite.tumblr.com/post/134867518972/i-cant-believe-this-actually-happened-too-right)

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Date: 2015-12-10 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocketqueen.livejournal.com
posted twice oops but: before alarming people, he is hitting him ~~softly imo so yeah i dont know what to think

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Date: 2015-12-10 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariellm13.livejournal.com
People are gonna ruin this group going off over stuff like this.

Have solid evidence before you get to the stage of trying to contact the company. This could end up badly, even if he hasn't actually done anything wrong and everyone will just be like "How was I supposed to know? Anybody would react that way after seeing what I saw!". The video is short, the video is shaky, you have no knowledge of their personal relationship or the context of what's happening. Also, flinching is instinctive. Someone who has never hit you could raise a hand to you and you would probably still flinch.

Date: 2015-12-10 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastelpinklace.livejournal.com
I've playfully joked around with someone pretending like i'm going to hit them like in the vid, this could be the case here who knows but flinching is a natural reaction

Date: 2015-12-10 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinadori.livejournal.com
This was (still is) very upsetting and it definitely warrants a response from BigHit. But I've had it with all the international fans flying off their handles making all sorts of accusations/projections about Jungkook's upbringing and parents. That is stepping way over the fucking line.

It's almost 10am in Korea and since it's still all quite on the social media front, I'm hoping they're preparing some kind of response right now. It would be a huge mistake for BigHit to try the ignore and hope it'll go away tactic with this.

Date: 2015-12-10 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephantasm.livejournal.com
isn't making big mistakes their whole concept tho

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