NYAN 8/21/2015: ZutterHeart

[jesaray.livejournal.com]

We're back! Back...back...back....
And opinionated as ever (check the timestamps. Whew)!

NYAN Ep. 36
Opening:
Wonder Girls - Mash Up 악기 연주 Yoo Hee Yeol’s Sketchbook

1 min- Ashe demonstrates why she is a K-pop fan, not a singer (of anything) ;that said #LittleMixInTheUSA #PreOrderGetWeirdOnItunes

3min – Intros… finally
4min 20sec – Kiara Goes to KCON N̶Y̶ NJ
• Who impressed? Who didn’t? How was it being at KCON’s consolation prize for east coasters?
• Why isn’t Choa leader of AOA?
• Kiara’s got swag for NYAN listeners!

32 min OT News – God has blessed Ashe with Marshmallow crisp Oreos
35 min – Kim Jong Un wakes up on the wrong side of the bed again
37 min – At the pool with REBOOT on repeat
• Oh yeah and Zutter, MV paradise for golden shower fetishists
39 min 30 sec – Big Bang delay album; is there such a thing as being too popular and releasing too much music? Tim says if you don’t like it, cry moar.
45 min 30 sec – YG says iKon will debut soon. Sure Jan.
48 min – SHInee gets props for putting in the effort (even if it doesn’t always makes sense). Shannon gets to talk about her babies.
53 min – f(4) also returns …. After Red Velvet make their comeback.
• Shannon is too busy writing f(x)’s obituary to care.
1 hr 4 min – SNSD release full album; did the nation’s girl group ever really find its niche?
• What about Big Bang/guy groups?
1 hr 16 min – 4Minute is also returning; HyunA introduces us to the “Ratchet” concept
• 1hr 25min – Or was she inspired by the major motion picture Trainwreck™, starring Amy Schumer
• What did she do to Hwasa?!?
1 hr 27 min – CL’s quest for world domination continues; with Diplo unfortunately
1 hr 40 min – KKAMJJAK! Hyorin’s a…rapper…now….
• Competing on Unpretty Rapstar…..
• Which will be a glorious mess.
2 hr – Who do we think deserves to be on Unpretty Rapstar?
2hr 10min – The Wonderbashing continues (with Kiara and Ashe defense squad).
2hr 21 min – Youngji stans rejoice! KARA member is starring in a new web drama (cause that’s the thing to do now).
2hr 24min – Outro with Tim and an encore performance. (Warning: Blatant Little Mix promotion ahead)

Source: NotYourAverageNetizens@Soundcloud

Comments

[donutism.livejournal.com]

I think YG was not lying about iKon debut date, but after that shit BI pulled hitting chanwoo, I would not be surprised if it gets delayed to 2018. But you know they will debut before BB goes away to the military, cause someones gotta earn money in YG.

Hyuna seem to be going down the voldemort path with her plastic surgery.

I want that girl in glam on UP2. I wonder why people always give LE a pass for dropping the N bomb on tv, and people just conveniently forget it. You'd think someone who was an underground rapper would know better..

I think the WG album sucked simply because it is not my type of music at all, but props to them for writing and learning instruments. I thought yeeun was the best vocalist in WG, but I guess that was Sunye cause their vocals this promotions are not on point at all.

[shineebambi.livejournal.com]

I don't follow exid so I didn't know she had said that on TV before :/

I really also hope hyuna and hana stop getting so much soon I just feel like they had such beautiful faces but at the end of the day it's their face their life

[donutism.livejournal.com]

I think a lot of people don't know, because they weren't popular then. But I know that if it was any other idol rapper that did that people would be the first to bring out their pitchforks.

I wish they would stop, but I know if it was me in that industry and the amount of pressure there is for me to look good, then I might feel the need to go down that path to......Hana just makes me sad - her career, her face, her company...everything. She deserves so much more

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

As always thanks for listening! ^_^

I still haven't heard about this BI hitting Chanwoo thing, can you fill me in? I already don't like him but sure let's get the ammo haha.

JESUS VOLDEMORT hahahaha.

Again as I said I don't think people give LE a pass. She dropped the N-word once, she got flamed on omona for it and flamed for a really long time about it. I really like LE and I was pissed she dropped it, but she hasn't since. I don't think holding her down about it is going to make anything better, she's been on her best behavior and working super hard since then which is why I want her on the show. I agree she is probably problematic tho.

[donutism.livejournal.com]

The BI thing: http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/16432279.html?page=1#comments

I feel like BI being YG's golden child (after GD) has such an inflated ego (and bobby too, but I am willing to kinda give bobby a pass cause i kinda like him) that iKon is already Double B and friends. The dynamic in that group just isn't right imo. And I know the whole boys will be boys thing about them hitting each other, but the way he hit chanwoo didn't look playful or friendly to me. i dunno, Ill still look out for their debut but it isn't look good for them right now. and with his dads scandal..... someone knock his ego down plz.

lol she needs to stop making her nose dissapear in her selfies. i dunno if its the surgery or the lighting, but gurl stop

i dunno if it is a pass, or people just don't mention it. Again people have biases, and some idols shit gets dragged out more often then others. it kinda just annoys me because i got favs (ahem taeyeon) that gets dragged thru hell and back for something they said, well others kinda get a free pass. even Yuri gets a pass for her imitation of a black person thing.

then again most of kpop is problematic. Maybe it is just me, LE's face looks like squidward to me so I kinda have an irrational dislike towards her, but she is talented and she does a lot of collabs that i don't think she really needs ur2. Hyorin and Yubin doesn't need it either.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

Jesus that BI is real bad, I already have a sour taste about him for walking out on his group and disappearing when the "pressures of being a leader" were too much during SMTM.

I think Bobby's "ego" is more his stage persona, I think he's confident but he's very sweet and caring normally (unless he changed recently) I'm sure he believes he's a good rapper but he also works very hard to live up to that. I agree I think a lot of people roughhouse but that looked like bullying to me. I also like that the first thing I see in those comments is someone defending exo when the viciousness with which Kyungsoo hits people would not be accepted in any other groups fandom but eh. I totally agree, that to me looked like bullying. BI being a bully wouldn't shock me at all.

Lmfao you're killing me the voldemort thing is ALL I will think of now when I see Hyuna.

Again though this is kind of my issue, you're comparing literally the most tippy top tier group, to a group that is well below them. Everyone remembers the Taeyeon though, and she has a reputation already as being a bitch so people drag her for everything. LE literally had like five fans before UP & DOWN came out, and she did get dragged for a loooong time after she dropped that N-bomb. You will always see someone that is more popular face more dragging than someone who is still mostly a nugu, it's just a matter of people giving a shit about them etc. I don't honestly know if this is good or bad, but it's clearly how things go. Like down there in the other comments CL gets dragged more than any other female idol rapper, that's true because she is easily the most famous one. Everyone cuts down who's more famous if LE was as popular as CL she'd probably still be paying the price for the n-word usage and again it does it brought up, it's not like everyone hides it. I'm a stan of her and I still say she had that hella ignorant moment.

LE won't ever go on UR because she doesn't like the show's dynamic. I also don't think she needs it anymore I just would like her on it strictly from watching her perform as a talent. Then again you could say every female in the khiphop scene (be it the underground or the idol scene) needs Unpretty Rapstar because they are severely overlooked and under valued.

[boxcuttergirl.livejournal.com]

he walked out on his group?? what happened omg

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

Basically he disappeared while preparing for SMTM. They ended up finding him and he said that he needed some space because the pressure of smtm and running his own group was too much. Mind you they are trainees

[donutism.livejournal.com]

I side eye bobby when he lifts up his shirt, and im like kid put it down, but he does seem genuinely sweet and talented. BI need a good leader lesson from seungyoon.

i suppose taeyeon doesn't have the best rep amongst a lot of fans, so she gets dragged a lot than most. i kinda feel like she doesn't deserve it to that level (she does still deserve some backlash) when a lot of idols (especially male idols) get away with a tonne of ignorant shit (seungri and his comment about he would have been kidnapped if the guy in the van was black, b2st as an existence etc). It kinda just annoys me when people hold one idol to a certain standard, and let another idol who also do ignorant shit a pass. like how taeyeon is satan, and jessica is a saint despite making an 'i don't want to be know as a typical asian with monolids' comment.

i think in general the industry need more female rappers. i mean, the songs from UR1 did amazing on charts, i don't see why there isn't more female rappers, but i guess korea still thinks their girls should be pretty in skirts and flowers.. i guess a lot of people want to see their favs on the show simply to get more music from them, which makes sense.

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

CL is gonna go the pop route with elements of different music genres, she said it several times. Also I think it's a really good idea to cater a bit to the underground edm music scene fans too because it's been working for her so far. Her base will always be hip hop but she's never been just that. She can sing, dance, rap, write, produce so the safest bet for her is Tinashe-esque route, that is pop/rnb/edm/dance route. Thing that matters is that she's willing to put the work in that she's been in the studio and hands on since September last year until like a month ago. She's not going there with "I have to blow up or else I'm packing my bags and going back" or "I have a group to fall back to" mentality.

2ne1 is not waiting on her, 2ne1 is on hiatus for a reason, that reason is not CL's solo, CL, had she wanted, could have gone solo years ago, she didn't for the sake of the group. When the group was put on hiatus for a reason, she used that opportunity to do what she wants to do. 2ne1 is not a safety net for her solo despite YG wanting to make it seem like that. She helped make that group what it is if she does go back to it (regardless of how her solo pans out) it won't be cause it's some type of a safety net, it's cause she wants to do music with them.

Also y'all need to lay off of Jeremy, yes some of his clothes are tacky but he is her best friend, he's been down for her since day one and is a part of reason she's getting attention. He's part of the reason she is the first asian/korean/idol to grace covers of several korean and western magazines. He is actually helping her and her career as much as y'all want to shit on him.

I love how TJK mentioning Yubin validates her!????? Nope.....

LE drops the n-word but it's ok because she "had underground experience" even tho her rap is no better than Yubin's.

Why people take "they were in the underground scene before they became idols" as someone being a legit good rapper is beyond me. All that literally means is that they were doing before they became idols not that they're good.

Yubin and Hyorin I don't even have a comment on that.

I also think that the girl from YG won't be good but I'll give her a benefit of the doubt.

Gilme is the only one I look forward to tbh.

We'll see how this mess goes but I don't hope for much.

[shineebambi.livejournal.com]

I don't follow exid or le so I di n't know she had dropped he n bomb before.

And I don't think any of us were digging at there friendship, I think we all understand he gives her a platform she other wise doesn't have but at least for me I one find his clothes tacky as he'll and he form things he has said and done outside of the cl friendship has always rubbed me the wrong way.

I wanted to she lime or hana not just because they were underground before becoming idols but because both also now for their idol groups write there own raps and while they aren't amazing I think a lot of that has to do with the restrictions of them being in a girl group so I thought it be interesting to see what they could do espically since those two are also coming from either a group that's getting ready to go their separate ways or in HV case hanging by a thread so they might have more freedom then other idol rappers

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

She did as well as your girl Lime btw while covering a CB song.

But that's a whole different issue, she's clearly friends with him and that's not gonna end, just like her wearing his clothes won't stop. She will support him just like he supports her so at this point after almost 6 years it's like beating the dead horse. He not only helped her career but 2ne1's as a whole. Him fucking up with some other shit, feel free to go at him but I don't know why CL gets associated with that. She doesn't run his business, she doesn't tell him what to say or do, those are his actions and are on him.

It's ok to want certain people on the show, and not be thrilled some idols with notable fame are getting on I understand and agree, but all this talk about "underground" experience rubs me the wrong way because that doesn't validate their skill, it just means they didn't have a label or a kpop group backing them before.

As someone who follows to an extent the khip hop scene I've heard so many of those "underground" rappers who can't rap for shit and some idols could run circles around them skills wise.

[shineebambi.livejournal.com]

I don't blame cl for his actions I just well frankly I get sick of seeing him and his clothes. I keep going back and forth on whether I even want to see this debut and him most likely dressing her which is probably smart backs me even less excited. It's not her fault but we all have those unreasonable, unexplainable dislikes and bridges. If it came across as if I was blaming her for his actions that wasn't my intention I was just trying to voice my disgruntledness that he will be most likely a large part of her debut.

Anyway I'm newer to the k hip hop scene then the kpop so any recommendations for me?

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

I don't think she'll debut dressed in JS head to toe, but she will have pieces of his collection so one can either make peace with it or not.

No I didn't say you were blaming her I was saying if people dislike him and his actions then they are free to go at him, but it's unreasonable to connect her friendship with him with shit he's pulled.

Hm, music wise there are some good things CHRT crew put out back in the day before Kid Ash became Keith Ape and him Okasian Jay Oscar Reddy etc. started showing their ignorant, disrespectful, racist asses. Strictly from the music point they had some good stuff. I recommend Paloalto's stuff. HuckP is one of my favs too, I'm always here for Dok2 and his last album is really well put together some real gems on it, Deepflow, Nafla has a good flow but I'm side-eyeing him for Locked and Loaded, Owen Ovadoz is good and puts out good stuff, Evo, Wutan is not bad. Psyche Jay, AMO...of the top of my head
If you're looking for r'n'b-ish underground artists, Jinbo is good, I recently discovered Ven (loveeeeee him his album has been on repeat) and Alshain, Babylon....

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

Thanks for listening!

No one is going to lay off Jeremy Scott, and I understand as a CL feel you feel like you have to defend her friends as well. It's great that he's helped her get so much exposure, but that doesn't mean we have to put him on a pedal stool and act like he's great. Not only are many of his outfits tacky, but he's also blatantly stolen ideas from less famous designers including more recently his barbie print Mosschino (sp?) line. I always say he's done great for her career, that's all good and wonderful, but I'm not going to pretend I like him just because he helped out someone I like.

No one has said LE dropping the n-word is okay though? Nor is it okay Lime did as previously mentioned. As mentioned before by someone much wiser than me, just because the person you like has done something wrong doesn't mean you can't like them, you just need to be willing to call them out on their bullshit.

The reason people pull to the underground scene as a sign of respect is because it typically shows who is actually interested in rap and isn't just doing it because they can't sing, can only dance, etc. A thing that happens a lot in kpop.

Hopefully Gilme pulls a Cheetah and wins on talent.

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

I'm not defending him, I'm defending her right to be friends with him, wear clothes he designs. I never said you need to put him on a pedestal either, I've been side-eyeing him and some of his actions on several occasions and even as a CL fan I dislike some of the stuff he designs that she wears, but repeating for 6 years that she needs to leave him behind or stop wearing his clothes gets boring. She's clearly going to continue doing it because he's one of her best friends.

Calling them on their bs but then sweeping it under the rug like it never happened and praising them to the skies and back while riding some people on shit they've done constantly, is also extremely hypocritical. But that's just me.

There are people in the underground who are there just until something better comes along or as a way to try and get signed. It's also filled with ignorant, untalented, misogynistic, bigoted, even racist mofos, so using that as some sort of a trump card is pointless to me.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

You told us to lay off of him directly. We've never said she can't be friends with him? We can also say we think she needs to leave his clothes behind, sorry you don't like ti but we're all entitled to feel the way we'd like to about it, sorry that it gets boring to you, can't help you much there. It's boring that Jeremy Scott has to be brought up in very conversation about CL period unfortunately, but because she wears everything he makes it's bound to happen.

No one has swept it under the rug? We also only go after repeat offenders typically on the show unless the incident in question is recent. The fact that you would even bring this up and then point out that it's hypocritical is amusing to me when you are such a fan of a woman who has made her whole career on appropriating or claims of appropriating Black/Latina culture and yet we don't rag on her every moment of the day about it?

I'm not going to state EVERY SINGLE TIME talk of LE comes out that she dropped the N-bomb. The reason people go after Zico is because of repeated offensive, and lack of care towards the fact that international fans reached out multiple times asking him to stop. The reason Rap Monster got ridden so hard is because his issue with colorism happened recently and was met with serious side eye from his own group. I dunno what else you want there.

The idol world is filled with the same issues though, kpop as a whole is filled with that, shit music in general as an entire whole is filled with that same issue. So again it's the fact that a lot of them are passionate about what they are doing. The stigma behind idol rappers is that they are just rappers because they are unable to sing or they are unable to sing and dance and thus have to do /something/.

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

I should have specified better it's more about laying off of her being friends with him/wearing his clothes, so ok I give you that, my mistake.

I never said you can't say it, I'm saying it's useless to constantly keep saying one and the same thing when it's obvious she's gonna continue hanging out with him and she's gonna keep wearing his clothes. Not just because he's one of her best friends but because she actually likes to wear it.

I did go off on a rant during TBF about certain things I disliked when the MV was concerned, certain things I knew some people might take offense to. "Made her WHOLE career on appropriating or claims of appropriating Black/Latina culture" ? CL has one slip up in her career and that's parts of TBF MV, but no one ever seems to let that go and keeps bringing it up over and over again in everything related to her "every single time".

Jessi goes on UR, so everyone forgets shit she's pulled all of a sudden and she's cool, entertaining, will be missed on the show. LE's group gets a hit, everyone has goldfish memory. Lime's name gets mentioned several times as a strong rapper and someone who should be on the show despite the fact she, too, fucked up. Hyorin's shit gets called out but it some of it still came down to bitching about the company trying to push this image on her and once she leaves this mess and goes back to cosplaying Beyonce, she'll be cool again. Hwasa's braids and headdress basically get blamed on Cube and stylists "omg what did they do to her", Moonbyul's braids don't even get mentioned. Hyori came with the Chola look at the same time CL did and I swear I don't even remember anyone mentioning it. Tiger JK wears twists/braids but I guess it was ok cause his wife is half-black and he's "real hip hop" and "understands the culture". Dara wears bindi and appropriates the Hindu culture on two occasions, also wears braids (she personally wanted to wear because she thinks she'll look more "hip hop"), but not even a peep about it EVER "she's a goddess". Minzy twerking was "hot" and "she's mega/hyper/extra talented" so it's ok. Hyuna is also hot so who cares that she has Middle Eastern jewelry / Hindu music and a black man krumping in Red "she makes bops we'll let it go". With most of these individuals the excuse is "there's no point in mentioning it every single time", "they're not repeat offenders", "it's the company not them", "it's the stylist not them", etc. when all it comes down to is: it's not mentioned "every single time" because these are people most intl fans generally like more for whatever reason, "with some individuals we like better there's no point in talking about it every single time repeat offenders or not".

That's why we need to stop perpetuating and pushing this "well he/she was in the underground so must have skills" notion.


Just to clarify, because people often call me mad/angry/aggressive (and I get why I might come off as such), I'm not coming at you personally, or anyone doing this podcast, I'm not attacking anyone, I'm not saying people don't have the right to their opinion etc. My posts might come off as me being angry, because that's how I am when I'm discussing things, but just want to make that clear so there are no misunderstandings.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

CL also "slipped up" when she decided to have passages from the Quran read in the background of her song, they've also already gotten heat previous to that for other things the ladies in 2ne1 have done. I don't know if you really don't see people picking on them as a whole but YG is one of the most fiercely targeted labels and the only person who's even gotten a real pass on his fuckery is TOP because everyone wants his nuts.

No one has forgotten the shit Jessi pulled, she got shit all over omona for it during all of UR, they only cut her a break after she proved she wasn't a talentless hack. When Jessi's group came back people went after her too, LE got targeted for a long LONG time for saying the N-bomb once three years ago but has been on her best behavior since. It also is brought up almost any time the focus is directly on LE, but more often than not everyone talks about Hani in EXID so LE skates along the path. Hyorin has always been called out, and yes it's blamed on her label because unlike YG, no label gives their artists a lot of freedom. It's much easier for the regular fan to assume that YG artists have some input and not the other labels because we've seen the complaints and such from other artists about lack of freedom etc. Hyori I'll agree with you, she never gets shit about appropriating, but she also is probably too busy getting crapped on for lacking talent, and plagiarism. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with having black people dancing in your MV so I can't agree with the krumping that was fine to me for Hyuna, but Hyuna has gotten shit for appropriating plenty of times. Tiger JK is straight up appropriating black culture, he always has been and people give him a pass because of Tasha. I can't explain that, but I've always said he looks like a fool, and I'm not a huge fan of him but I respect what he's done musically.

So I'll say it once and I'll say it again, yo can like some one problematic. It's a matter of not pushing it under the rug. I still bring up the fact that YB stupidly said the N-word like literally 9 years ago or whatever it was to prove that even the man I stan isn't perfect. I'm not going to bring it up in every conversation, and I don't feel that saying one problematic thing is grounds for me to not like you. I like CL, LE, Hwasa, Hyorin, Minzy and even Jessi, but I recognize any time they've messed up. I don't think you can compare LE saying the N-bomb once to Zico saying it a dozen times, being asked to stop, disregarding it, and continuing to live in his blissfully ignorant life.

My issue entirely that when LE is mentioned the N-bomb moment is only used to discredit her talent and these aren't the same things. For example I think Zico is scumbag of a human being, but he is a very damn talented rapper, I just won't support him anymore because I can't respect him as a person. Eminem is a very talented lyricist, you will never catch me bumpin his music because I don't support him as a person. LE is a very talented rapper and writer, she would do very well and I personally think among active promoting female idol rappers she's easily top 5. If you don't want to support her cause she dropped the n-bomb that's fine, but don't use it to discredit her talent. I don't bring up TBF when I talk about CL, I just enjoy the music she makes and the hyper talented artist she is, but I will bring it up when people try to use being problematic as a factor in talent though or when people try to bring up the hypocritical point where there truly isn't a single fan still in kpop that doesn't have a problematic fave. That's really all I'm saying.

EDIT: Oops posted it in the wrong place.

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

You just proved my point with the MTBD issue. When it's CL's song it's her "slip up" even though she didn't produce that song, when it's Hyuna or someone else, it's their company's fault.

YGE people are targeted but not all, some are exempt from all the bs they pull, while some are criticized for existing pretty much. Top is not the only person exempt you're tripping if you believe that genuinely.

LE wasn't really targeted for a long time, some people mentioned it but most either didn't know or didn't care. Just like they don't really care today.

It's a wide known fact YGE people have a bit more freedom but that doesn't mean complete and utter freedom. For GD's shit I can agree that it's 99% on him, even Taeyang to a certain extent. But not everyone has as much freedom as Big Bang boys do or as boys do period.

I didn't say having a black dancer krumping wasn't ok, I see nothing wrong with it, but some people call it out when it's in say yge mv but not when it's in an mv or queen Hyuna.

I agree with that, I know CL has done some shit people saw as offensive, Taeyang and GD too, but the entire point of my comment was just that certain people in kpop are not liked for various reasons and they get flack for shit they do (when there's reason and when there isn't) but others who do same shit after get basically a free pass.

"my issue entirely that when LE is mentioned the N-bomb moment is only used to discredit her talent" precisely my point overall.

I don't dislike LE I don't care much for her, she has talent for writing/producing I don't agree she's that great of a rapper as most people are making her out to be, but I agree she is better than most. This isn't about me liking or disliking her, I mentioned her and other people as examples. You don't but most people bring that up over and over again.

"there truly isn't a single fan still in kpop that doesn't have a problematic fave." exactly and not just in kpop but industry overall.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

I don't know if this is your first time listening but if so thanks for listening.

As for your book of a response, there's only a few things I'll touch, first and foremost is saying that it's awful is absolutely a reason to dislike someone. Music is, has been and will always be subjective. I believe everyone is hyping it up because it is the Wonder Girls and nothing more. People thing the recent Big Bang releases are worth high praise and they simply aren't in my opinion which is all you can say. I've never stated that my opinion on music is anything other than my opinion. In my opinion this terrible album is hyped beyond belief period, I think it's terrible, I don't think any of the songs are good and I think it's a poor attempt at an album under the guise of "doing something new."

I've been on this podcast nearly every episode at this point, I'm well aware of the fact that people have different opinions, I've gone to bat just like you are doing now with me, with other people both on the show and elsewhere. Thanks for the lesson on what opinions are while you state yours as though it is fact. I dislike the album because I do not think the songs are catchy, I think the singing is poor, Hyelim's lack of talent shines, Sunmi's inability to fill the shoes of second vocals with Yeeun stepping to take Sunye's spot is also clear. The only interesting thing about the album to me is that they went somewhere different.

I have never liked extra members for the record, and when WG added Hyelim I asked the very same question so trust it's nothing new. In fact I believe I asked it and even said they already have Sohee to fill the role of useless but brought for looks.

I have taken heat for toooons of groups I like on this podcast, I get heat for Nine Muses all the damn time (Most often it's deserved). As a podcaster I deal with the fact that sometimes people are going to crap on my groups, or crap on the things I like, Shannon legitimately doesn't like ANYTHING I like for example. It's always been a part of our show to point out what we don't like and sometimes people drink while on the show and get rowdy. It's gonna happen, I don't know what to tell you, but again if you go back a couple shows I was excited for WG comeback, and I am absolutely disappointed with it. That's my opinion, what I stated on the show is my opinion.

Thanks!

[shineebambi.livejournal.com]

That's not true give WE BOTH LOVE CHEETAH... .but that's about it haha

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

And I love Shinee's last two releases!~

[bunica1990.livejournal.com]

lmao that Kasper drag

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

Thanks for listening!

It's the truth I'm not gonna feel bad about it haha.

[dafairyness.livejournal.com]

As a 2am stan I feel the need to defend them, but... you aren't wrong. (Let's Talk is a solid album though)

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

I honestly wish their music was better, I feel like they got robbed because they're incredible vocal talents.

[jrt131n.livejournal.com]

They are stuck to sing old people songs....boring old people songs for all eternity (echo echo echo echo)

[dafairyness.livejournal.com]

I'd like to blame it on their NEVER AGAIN attitude for having dance elements in their song after 'I Was Wrong' but in reality I think Big Hit just got complacent and decided to keep doing the same thing over and over again. The same thing happened with 8eight.

[dickslikejesus.livejournal.com]

I think they kinda became successful doing what they were doing in their lane, and that was it. Honestly the lack of sexuality in Korea doesn't help either cause they could have made racy romantic stuff like Boyz 2 Men etc. #Dreams

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[jrt131n.livejournal.com]

I went to kcon NYC, there wasn't really much to do. Like, I the only thing I got out of the convention was the awesome icees. I got to see Vixx during their fan engagement, that was awesome, since I'mma Vixx fangirl. My friend and I was mostly there for the concert. I did enjoy the people watching, so many awesome people nicely dressed.

I enjoyed the concert. I'm not the biggest girlgroup stan, but I do have a ton of AOA songs that I like and they performed all the ones I cared about....well, except Heart attack, that song is terrible. Teen Top was great, seeing Rocking live was awesome. GG they were good, it was my second time seeing them. I tuned them out during Party tho, because that song is horrible with a capital H.

One thing I wish they did during the concert was bring the sections down because there were a lot of empty seats, and I could have been more closer getting see my bbs Vixx.

Aw is Victoria gonna have to give up the Changmin's penis if she leaves for China?

GG I feel are just going by the motion. Like, whatever they are given they just do it and that's it. I have lion Heart and You Think, not because I think they're amazing songs, but mostly because...they do what I need them to do, past the time where its not too annoying and I can listen too when I'm on the bus.

What I don't understand about Unpretty Rapstar, what is it that they don't do audience? I don't really know what to think since I don't usually pay that much attention to shows like this, but I'm gonna check it out just to see who gets dragged. The only thing I know about Kasper is that she was on SMTM, and has NOOOOOOOOOO personality. At all. a white piece of paper left out in the rain left that has bird poop on it has more personality then her. She's just really boring.

Hyrion, I don't mind her outfit, they could have just put her hair in a high bun, and wore the outfit with heels. And actually, Tim's point of her just having her hair down with her long black hair, that would have been so much better.

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[shineebambi.livejournal.com]

I hope victoria and changmin stay together waiting for the next spoon gate tbh Bevis e that was epic