It's aggravating and gross and upsetting that this was his idea of impactful lyrics. I hope he learns from this and knows why it upset so many people instead of just learning how to hide it better.
Incles need to stop acting like he's 12 and needs to be defended from the big bad internet world. This was fully his fault and they need to acknowledge that. I can't at them twisting this whole controversy and saying that other fandoms are just trying to bring him down or that blacknut is worse. This isn't a competition on who's the bigger piece of shit.
This controversy is so stupid, just like this Mino line. Young man bragging about his probably non existent sexual prowess using rather unfortunate metaphor, and everybody and their uncle are offended because...? I mean it's all sad and what not that most popular hip hop sub genre in SK is all about macho posturing and dick waving but they only selling what public wants to buy. And I'm curious how people in here gonna be "disappointed" in Mino, when we have this Carmen Electra gif, circulating in here since forever, and probably it's been posted at least few times in Mino related post, so in the end he didn't lie, technically~
it's a controversy b/c he sexualized an act (visiting the OBGYN) that the medical community seeks to desexualize (b/c women often avoid seeing their OBGYN b/c of the shame that society still puts on women's private parts). This is not a controversy about sex or sexual desires, but him sexualizing a medical visist that needs to be desexualizred.
I also have a problem with the "M-I-N-O attacking your daughters / split [your legs]" line that comes just before he says "as you would at an OBGYN".
Honestly as someone who found his lyrics crass, I had no idea this would go so far.Hell even the gynecology association got involved.I hope he understand's why this upset people and thinks more carefully
I am slightly miffed that YG will let Mino apologize for this (as he should) but when the CL Quran sample happened and we had the Korean Muslim federation speak up, no apology was ever given.
but I also stopped reading at "where skilled rappers battle", so I'm probably not one to judge.
Edit: after reading the entire letter my main reactions is "lol". This is probably one of the best "I'm sorry you feel offended" apologies in recent months. Good job at deflecting by putting most of the blame on the show, but let's see how you continue to break that idol stereotype when you're punking out like this lol
there was a line in one his raps which said "mino attacking your daughters, split [your legs] as you would at a ob/gyn" (x (https://twitter.com/chrissy96_/status/619551924367405057/photo/1)) it's a bad line, but i don't know how out of control it got? i heard that a korean ob/gyn association or something were planning to sue yg and mino if mino didn't apologize - i'm not sure if that's true or not. the suing part is unnecessary but mino does need to learn better and not write lyrics like these....
lol i submitted this post too - and tbh i'm a bit too tired from my flight but hopefully he understands why he's wrong and here's to hoping he doesn't mess up more in smtm4
I really can't understand how guys can sexualize ob/gyn medical check-ups. It's clear that they don't understand a thing about women and it pisses me off. It's already difficult for women (and sexualized enough), no need to make it even worse. Lately a friend who's normally interested in feminist issues made a sexualized comment about ob/gyn meetings (guess he still has a lot to learn...) and just... No. Between him and Mino's rap, I'm so chocked to realize it. But I guess that, as soon as uterus and boobs are involved, it can only means sex. Or babies. Isn't it what women are made for, eh? ... #sarcasm Glad Mino was called out for the lyrics, now I hope that he thinks more before writing a rap and never does this kind of mistake again. Though this apology doesn't say if he knows what was insensitive and why...
This became so over the top for a tasteless lyric...it basically said he had sex a lot in a crass way and but turned into horrid drama where the OB/GYN Assoc demanded an apology
Korea is a small country and this really showed it to me lol. It also means they can do more with other issues like that Roora pedo bastard who just got released from jail
14k upvotes...I need all these people to get active with social issues too. You can take on multiple issues!
he deserved backlash. so many i-fans rag on sk for being "backwards and behind" on their values but when knetz do take offense to something an idol does that does warrant criticism (like blatant misogyny and gross ignorance here) you all are gonna be like this and write it off as overreacting and petty? 1) if this wasn't blowing up i have no doubt some of you would love to say that's just typical sk, and 2) things are gonna be rocky for mino, but this is a lesson learned for him. like ur idols and companies all u want but be a little fairer lmao and it's kind of alarming this was mino's idea of "more impacting." he got his wish at least lol
So he basically admitted he wrote something so disgusting bc he wanted to look like hot shit, smh. Confirms in my mind he's a waste of talent.
The most hilarious thing about this was that YG had warned him, and then he went on anyways. But then as soon as this blew up whatever tf Winner(he's not in Ikon right?) fans are called came out and started demanding YG force him to apologize. I didn't get it before but now I see why k-netz have such a low opinion of YG idols.
There should have been a backlash, but the show has been gross from the start, so I feel like people's motives might be off a little bit. Where has all this concern for mothers and daughters been all the while women with potential have been dropping like flies or hardly even shown?
i really hope he actually means this apology. i was really disappointed with what he said, i get what he was trying to say but the analogy was terrible. it was practically the same as his Pavarotti line in I'm Him but he used the wrong simile. either way, i hope he learns. i wonder if this will make him leave smtm earlier tho. and winner def won't have a comeback this year lawd. btw winner stans are being such a mess on twitter rn, slutshaming everywhere.
this is all my fault lmao, i bring bad luck to my male biases. a couple of months after i start stanning gd, he shows his ass with ooak. a couple of months after i start stanning mino, he does this. lawd, i'll just stick to girl groups.
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Date: 2015-07-13 08:46 am (UTC)Incles need to stop acting like he's 12 and needs to be defended from the big bad internet world. This was fully his fault and they need to acknowledge that. I can't at them twisting this whole controversy and saying that other fandoms are just trying to bring him down or that blacknut is worse. This isn't a competition on who's the bigger piece of shit.
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Date: 2015-07-13 09:35 am (UTC)lol this is all I got from his letter too. He needs to go by a dictionary and work on his craft.
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Date: 2015-07-13 08:51 am (UTC)And I'm curious how people in here gonna be "disappointed" in Mino, when we have this Carmen Electra gif, circulating in here since forever, and probably it's been posted at least few times in Mino related post, so in the end he didn't lie, technically~
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Date: 2015-07-13 06:32 pm (UTC)I also have a problem with the "M-I-N-O attacking your daughters / split [your legs]" line that comes just before he says "as you would at an OBGYN".
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Date: 2015-07-13 08:57 am (UTC)I am slightly miffed that YG will let Mino apologize for this (as he should) but when the CL Quran sample happened and we had the Korean Muslim federation speak up, no apology was ever given.
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Date: 2015-07-13 09:25 am (UTC)but I also stopped reading at "where skilled rappers battle", so I'm probably not one to judge.
Edit: after reading the entire letter my main reactions is "lol". This is probably one of the best "I'm sorry you feel offended" apologies in recent months. Good job at deflecting by putting most of the blame on the show, but let's see how you continue to break that idol stereotype when you're punking out like this lol
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Date: 2015-07-13 01:04 pm (UTC)Mte
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Date: 2015-07-13 09:39 am (UTC)Seriously, someone explain, I have no idea what he has done.
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Date: 2015-07-13 09:53 am (UTC)like damn are we regressing or smth? what happened to the omona i used to love
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Date: 2015-07-13 09:51 am (UTC)Lately a friend who's normally interested in feminist issues made a sexualized comment about ob/gyn meetings (guess he still has a lot to learn...) and just... No. Between him and Mino's rap, I'm so chocked to realize it.
But I guess that, as soon as uterus and boobs are involved, it can only means sex. Or babies. Isn't it what women are made for, eh? ... #sarcasm
Glad Mino was called out for the lyrics, now I hope that he thinks more before writing a rap and never does this kind of mistake again. Though this apology doesn't say if he knows what was insensitive and why...
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Date: 2015-07-13 09:52 am (UTC)It's a better apology than others have done tbqh
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Date: 2015-07-13 09:55 am (UTC)jjong learning so much better educate him
cos unfortunately some men will only listen to other men
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Date: 2015-07-13 10:22 am (UTC)Korea is a small country and this really showed it to me lol. It also means they can do more with other issues like that Roora pedo bastard who just got released from jail
14k upvotes...I need all these people to get active with social issues too. You can take on multiple issues!
YG was actually right about SMTM4
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Date: 2015-07-13 10:44 am (UTC)he deserved backlash. so many i-fans rag on sk for being "backwards and behind" on their values but when knetz do take offense to something an idol does that does warrant criticism (like blatant misogyny and gross ignorance here) you all are gonna be like this and write it off as overreacting and petty? 1) if this wasn't blowing up i have no doubt some of you would love to say that's just typical sk, and 2) things are gonna be rocky for mino, but this is a lesson learned for him. like ur idols and companies all u want but be a little fairer lmao
and it's kind of alarming this was mino's idea of "more impacting." he got his wish at least lol
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Date: 2015-07-13 11:24 am (UTC)that line was gross and stupid. i'm glad he apologized, but damn. this exploded way further than even zico's fuckup.
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Date: 2015-07-13 11:36 am (UTC)The most hilarious thing about this was that YG had warned him, and then he went on anyways. But then as soon as this blew up whatever tf Winner(he's not in Ikon right?) fans are called came out and started demanding YG force him to apologize. I didn't get it before but now I see why k-netz have such a low opinion of YG idols.
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Date: 2015-07-13 11:46 am (UTC)I am rather surprised by how much this has blown up though.
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Date: 2015-07-13 11:58 am (UTC)tbh
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Date: 2015-07-13 11:54 am (UTC)this is all my fault lmao, i bring bad luck to my male biases. a couple of months after i start stanning gd, he shows his ass with ooak. a couple of months after i start stanning mino, he does this. lawd, i'll just stick to girl groups.
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