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WINNER‘s Mino is under fire for expressing Korea as “yeoldo.” Yeoldo is a term that is literally translated as “ten islands,” and is used to refer to the Japan Archipelago.

On 2014 SBS Gayo Daejun which aired on December 21, actress Song Ji Hyo and the Lucky Boys (2PM‘s Nichkhun, CNBLUE‘s Jung Yong Hwa, B1A4‘s Baro, WINNER‘s Mino, INFINITE‘s L) hosted the ceremony.

While MCing, however, Mino said, “That shook up the Korean ‘yeoldo,’” which wrongly associated Korea with Japan. With the tense and still-fresh history of the Japanese Occupation in Korea, the mistake incited shock and anger in many Korean viewers.

While many of the viewers recognized that it was mainly a mistake on the part of the script writers, many still put some responsibility on Mino, arguing that he should have recognized that the script was inappropriate and should not have made the comment.

This script error was not by any means the only mistake that SBS Gayo Daejun made that day. While it was a long-awaited ceremony, it brought huge disappointment as there were a large number of troubles including audio problems and camera shots that were difficult to understand.

Update:

Local news source Osen reports that Mino apologized for the mistake, saying, “I sincerely apologize. Everything is due to my mistake and negligence.”

SBS associates also offered their apologizes, saying, “It wasn’t Song Mino’s mistake. It was the production’s mistake. We apologize.” The PD of SBS Gayo Daejun, Kim Joo Hyung, added, “Song Mino did well, but because the situation turned like this, we are sorry.” He explained that since the only way they can control the length of the live show is through the addition or subtraction of the comments by the MCs on the spot by the staff, some of the comments were unable to be reviewed properly and the mistake by the production team occurred.


Article: SBS + Song Minho reps, "We sincerely apologize for the yeoldo statement"

Source: OSEN via Naver

1. [+8,625, -383] SBS really needs to find that Ilbe employee and fire him, what're they doing.. tsk tsk

2. [+6,083, -237] Better than SBS who apologized only after the script was revealed. Minho admits to his mistake and accepts responsibility for it. Unfortunate what happened this time but I wish him the best.

3. [+5,931, -115] After all those scandals with ilbe, they now get into a yeoldo scandal ㅋㅋㅋ Hopeless

4. [+6,036, -962] What did Song Minho do to deserve this ㅠㅠ

5. [+844, -26] The kid who read it can be excused for being nervous and not catching on right away but what was the scriptwriter thinking?

6. [+884, -123] I hope Song Minho finds strength.. apparently that word wasn't used in the rehearsal but it was suddenly added so of course he'd read it as is... Sigh, the PDs only apologizing now because he got caught.

7. [+760, -56] Reading a suddenly edited script as is is not a sign of being dumb but someone making a mistake. Ultimately, yes he's at fault but netizens are taking it too far ㅋㅋ And that PD's a mess for apologizing only after being caught

8. [+651, -59] Mino is at fault. He didn't have the sense to fix yeoldo to bando and as a fan, I don't have any intention of shielding him... but I don't like how the PDs are trying to dump this all on Mino and pushing a witch hunt. Mino's apologizing and blaming it all on himself while the adults are acting like this...


Source: Soompi 1 & Netizenbuzz 1

Date: 2014-12-22 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petecarl.livejournal.com
I was waiting for this post. Nice of the PD to try to throw him under the bus like that til receipts were brought out.

idk enough about Korean culture and history to know if this is the sort of thing that most people know/how big a deal this is, but it was obviously a mistake and not an offense he intended, since he was just reading lines off a paper.

Date: 2014-12-22 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donutism.livejournal.com
Netizens were so quick to turn against mino until the receipts were out, and then they did a complete 180.

Date: 2014-12-22 09:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] purpleglaceon
Don't shoot the messenger.

Date: 2014-12-22 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Mino confirmed for Ron Burgundy.

Mino admitted it and apologised. All the while SBS threw him under the bus. Poor Mino. I'm glad at least SBS backtracked. As for people saying but he should have known!! Under that kind of pressure as a rookie and being told not to go away from the script, it's not like he could just change it.

Date: 2014-12-23 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seroquels.livejournal.com
A+ for the Anchorman reference

"Go fxck yourself San Diego!"

Date: 2014-12-22 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
i'm pretty sure it hasn't even been 5 days since the last mino post where i said i was nervous about him being praised cause that means netizens are ready to turn on him. -.-

the script writer was trolling for sure.

Date: 2014-12-22 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydiasummer.livejournal.com
how nice of them to throw him under the bus.
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Date: 2014-12-22 10:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-12-22 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaninasan.livejournal.com
Netizens were praising Mino too much, sth like this was bound to happen.

SBS fucked up really bad tho, they practically threw Mino under the bus for their mistake.
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Date: 2014-12-22 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princetabi.livejournal.com
other than taehyun's 'speaking informally' incident, i can't really think of any other messiness...unless i missed something lol

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Date: 2014-12-22 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheisagentleman.livejournal.com
ksy and seunghoon are messy, im not sure about taehyun and jinwoo but aside from this i havent seen any dirt on mino, he seems sweet

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Date: 2014-12-22 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miwa201.livejournal.com
ugh as usual i-netizens were being messy as fuck when this was first reported. it's astounding how they can consume so much of korean culture yet be ignorant of the environment it's in.
good for mino that he apologized.

Date: 2014-12-22 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atopworld.livejournal.com
Okay but if he would have improvised, wouldn't Netz still be all over him, saying that a rookie thinks he can change things and all that other bullshit? He would have been damned anyway. But nice of SBS to blame it on him until they were caught.

Date: 2014-12-22 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
um no because this is more than netz hating on people no matter what it's about korea-japan relations. if mino had changed the script no one would have known in the first place because no way sbs would admit that and if it were known everybody would've praised him.

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Date: 2014-12-22 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
yeah sbs has a really bad track record with shit like this... during the asian games they wrote daehan-ilbon instead of min-guk, replacing the word republic with japan. they've also several ilbe troll issue hiding ilbe pics onto live news and shit... major side-eye.

and if mino wasn't from yg or any other big company it would have entirely been possible winner to not show up on sbs shows because broadcast stations are scumbags like that and ent companies are at their mercy.

Date: 2014-12-22 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princetabi.livejournal.com
this is so dumb. you would think that the citizens of a nation that is obsessed with hierarchy and doing whatever your superior tells you to do would understand how this could happen.

but i'm glad he apologized bc that was such a bad mistake
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Date: 2014-12-22 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canxi.livejournal.com
Unfortunate.
Apologizing is good and he didn't seem to make any excuses. He'll be more alert if another opportunity comes his way.
Hopefully, SBS will also be more alert...

Date: 2014-12-22 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyonions.livejournal.com
Mess and it was so avoidable smh
I'm glad Mino apologized and I'm glad SBS apologized after they tried to fuck Mino over

Date: 2014-12-22 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princetabi.livejournal.com
your icon lol

Date: 2014-12-22 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gray-fairy.livejournal.com
Idk why are they blaming him if it was on the damn script. Netizens are always so thirsty for a "scandal" involving idols.

Date: 2014-12-22 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
Still mad as hell that SBS threw him under the bus saying it wasn't in the script until they got busted

Don't live your life like that PD

A 4 month rookie apologized for something that wasn't even his fault (though I loved how they phrased it that he should have caught it while reading making it clear it was in the script...I hope YG/Mino were the ones who released the photos of the script because I'm sure Mino kept his lol)

Date: 2014-12-22 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luna301.livejournal.com
I didn't initially fully grasp the cultural context or connotations of this, so I was a bit puzzled. Now I understand that the implication of 열도 is bad enough (and widely accepted to be bad enough) to warrant a contorversy. So while I think it's understandable that Mino just read the script as is in a pressure situation, I can also see where the "he should've known better" crowd is coming from. It's still shady as fuck of SBS to try and pin it on him, though. They should've accepted responsibility right away rather than wait for Mino to take the fall.

Netizens were a bit high on Mino just a few days ago, so not surprised something like this came up. They're back to singing him praises, though, so now I'm paranoid again. But honestly, too much weight is placed on the opinion of netizens (both korean and international). If netizens were truly reflective of idol popularity, then GD and most YG artists would be unemployed by now and chased through the streets.

Date: 2014-12-22 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
well you have to understand that the so-called netizen opinions we see from netizenbuzz are very selective (and biased since the site purposely picks the negative comments) from a portal site that tends to be negative about everybody. and like everywhere on the internet, more extreme an opinion is, more popular. but yeah gd is a living proof that netizen opinions mean jack shit.

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Date: 2014-12-23 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelyxbeauty.livejournal.com
Both were in the wrong but good on Mino for apologising, but I still think he should've known better in the first place.

Date: 2014-12-23 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheswatching.livejournal.com
In a less pressurized situation, I can see how 100% of this could be avoided by Minho, but good on him for apologizing. SMH at SBS though. Ugh.

Date: 2014-12-23 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ckino (from livejournal.com)
2 down 3 to go.

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