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YANG HONGSEOK (20) and JUNG JINHYEONG (17), who lost in a survival audition to select the members of YG Entertainment (“YG”)’s new boy group iKON (B.I, BOBBY, KIM JINHWAN, KOO JUNHOE, SONG YUNHYEONG, JUNG CHANWOO, and KIM DONGHYUK), have confirmed their stay at YG.

According to a high-level insider of YG on the 10 in the morning, YANG HONGSEOK and JUNG JINHEYONG were interviewed by YG’s head YANG HYUN SUK and YG accepted their wish to stay at YG.

The insider said, “YANG and JUNG strongly expressed their wish to stay at YG, in a meeting with YG’s head producer YANG HYUN SUK. YANG thought YANG and JUNG who had not been the members of “WIN” Team B lost in “MIX & MATCH” to select the member of iKON, not because they lacked in talent but because their time of training YG was shorter. Furthermore, the two had strong wish to stay at YG, so Mr. YANG decided to give them additional opportunity”.

“YANG HONGSEOK and JUNG JINHYEONG will be provided with music and choreography training room at YG for the next one year, to further develop their talent. Whether they will make debut through YG will be decided after then, so their debut as YG artist depends on their efforts from now on”, added the insider.



YANG and JUNG demonstrated their unique character and outstanding talent in Mnet’s survival audition show MIX & MATCH designed to select the members of iKON, but they failed to join iKON until the end of the show on the 6 this month. So, the two have failed in the survival audition and their future has drawn a big attention from MIX & MATCH fans, because YANG HYUN SUK had said that those who fail to be the member of iKON may have to leave YG.

However, as YANG and JUNG’s stay at YG has been confirmed now, fans who supported them can make themselves comfortable.

Meanwhile, “WIN” Team B members: B.I, BOBBY, KIM JINHWAN, KOO JUNHOE, SONG YUNHYEONG, and KIM DONGHYUK, as well as new-face trainee JUNG CHANWOO who acted as the young Lee Min Ho in KBS 2TV’s drama series “Boys over Flowers”, have been confirmed as the members of iKON.

iKON with seven confirmed members set the target of making official debut in January next year, and will dedicate themselves to working on debut songs, except for performing on the opening stage of YG senior singer BIGBANG’s Japan dome tour.

iKON will be performing on the opening stage of YG senior BIGBANG’s Japan dome tour that will have total 15 concert in five cities including Nagoya where the tour starts on the 15 this month, then Osaka, Fukuoka, Sapporo, and Tokyo until mid-January in 2015.



So basically, he'll keep them locked up for a year and then drop them?

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Date: 2014-11-10 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engraved-16.livejournal.com
/sigh
oh well. In the end it was their decision to stay.

I honestly dont think they'd ever debut under YG (within a year too no less) so i guess after their 1 year contract is up they could then transfer to another company maybe??

Date: 2014-11-10 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infede.livejournal.com
i mean jinwoo/irene debuted this year at 23 so idt age will be so much a factor as compared to whether yg will be able to find a concept that can fit them into his artist roster within the next 2-3 years (mb a duo/trio..?) bc i dont see him debuting another generic boy group until bang yedam's

what im just anxious of is that he's just saving his ass rn so as not to drop them whilst they have a lot of public interest, but then giving them false hope and letting them go at year end when their hype has died out which we all know that he's capable of. but ig it's a good chance to hone their skills... so we'll see...

Date: 2014-11-10 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cafetin99.livejournal.com

If I were them, I would get the hell away from YG and his megashitty in the limbo  management. They will be in the bassement, just like others (trainessor as some of his artists) and then these guys will face a more uncertain future than they do now.

Date: 2014-11-10 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krnfly.livejournal.com
"YANG thought YANG and JUNG who had not been the members of “WIN” Team B lost in “MIX & MATCH” to select the member of iKON, not because they lacked in talent but because their time of training YG was shorter."

stating the obvious. They lost because you've made them compete with people who've had longer period of training and are 100x more popular than them. Expecting them to win over Team B original members is just evil YG, evil.

Anyway I'm glad that they're staying, cos I think they'll get good training there in YG. But when will they get to debut? YG's a busy company. Don't think there's room for any more debut within this short period of time. I'd say, if YG doesn't want u guys anymore, it's his lost, so steal YG's resources and go debut from another company guys

... but another side of me wants them to be a part of YG's family forever with the iKON boys *self conflicted*
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Date: 2014-11-10 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koibira.livejournal.com
there's no way they'll end up staying with yg after that 1 year tho. it's pretty selfish of him imo. 😞😞 poor bbs

Date: 2014-11-10 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iglossmyeyes.livejournal.com
eat shit yg

srsly he should be fucking ashamed of being so greedy. jinseok won't debut with ikon not bc of lack of training but because he didn't want them in and gave them zero chances.
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Date: 2014-11-10 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mangotae.livejournal.com
Ooohh, I was just about to ask this...

2014 coming for your faves before they even become your faves.

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Date: 2014-11-10 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mangotae.livejournal.com
I was rooting for Jinhyeong so badly...YG is just /deep sigh

Date: 2014-11-10 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marsinblue.livejournal.com
However, as YANG and JUNG’s stay at YG has been confirmed now, fans who supported them can make themselves comfortable.

Comfortable?? eeeeeeh, no.

Date: 2014-11-10 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atopworld.livejournal.com
S I G H .

Date: 2014-11-10 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturalhonee.livejournal.com
YHS did this because 1) he didn't want any other company benefitting from Jinseok's popularity. 2) the public wouldn't be on iKON's side if YG didn't do something with Jinseok. 3) he wants to wait till all the support dies down and people forget about them.
Also LOL at him trying to come across as incredibly generous about everything...please.

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Date: 2014-11-10 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jjkk1993.livejournal.com
Possible plot twist #1: One year later YG announces a show that is Mix & Match season 2 where JinSeok are introduced to new trainees including Bang Yedam going through his awkward voice-changing phase and Taehyun's younger bro who magically managed to find his way into YG. OT2 fans learn their way from OT6 stans and start stirring up drama in the fandom. While YG being YG continues to feed off the angst of teenaged fangirls.

Possible plot twist #2: In the one year, JinSeok have started to show learn their own way in composing and writing their own songs, YG lets them debuts as a duo, they become the more successful, vocally-talented YG version of JJ Project, where they steadily gain popularity singing fun, energetic pop-rock tunes written by Jinhyung featuring a collab with Seungyoon and maybe Yunhyung, or R&B ballads done the FTTS way written by Hongseok that Koreans love. But either way they roll in the fame and $$$ and all JinSeok fans are happy campers, cue for YG to step in and tells us it was all part of his genius plan from the start to debut them together but decided they needed to learn the hard way.

/Bad jokes aside as a fan of both the boys it's a complicated feeling seeing this outcome. At least in the next year we know they'll have a place to "belong to" per se and and also access to YG's relatively bountiful resources to keep on improving and learning. But then we all know realistically now that YG has finally managed to get Double B and Co. ready and set for debut and Pink Punk should finally be a priority for 2015 lbr most likely he's not going to bat them an eyelash by the time the year is up.
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Date: 2014-11-10 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 21banged.livejournal.com
ngl I really want theory #2 to be true but in my heart of hearts I know YG is gonna pull a Supearls on these kids- I just hope they find success wherever they go. I think both of them defs have the talent to make it (Jinhyeong if he gets the right songs tbh, but Hongseok lives and breathes ballads, so he should be fine lol)

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Date: 2014-11-10 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaninasan.livejournal.com
well

they need more training, especially hongseok. why not do it in YG? but i'm surprised YG's letting them stay if he has no intention of debuting them.

Hongseok might have a career as a solo ballad singer, but i doubt that's gonna work in YG, and Jinhyeong... idk.

Date: 2014-11-10 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
Unless YG offered them some clear debut plan they should have left as it will be harder for them to find a new company after a year than now. At least he should have guranteed them a debut through YG/k-plus acting&modelling department so that the boys will be able to retain their relevance in public's minds and will be able to find a new company for their music related activities. Anyhow i feel that the staying is just selfish plan and falsh hope given for JinSeok from YG to evade them competing against iKON under some other company. Also if YG thinks this will make people start liking Chanwoo he's dead wrong.

Date: 2014-11-10 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 21banged.livejournal.com
I kind of buy into the theories that YG is basically just keeping them so that 1.) he looks less like an asshole and 2.) Kill any hype Jinseok had built up so that the public loses interest in them

It's so brutal, but I guess that's just how the entertainment industry rolls :\

Date: 2014-11-10 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
the asshole part of me thinks these guys should go back to school bc sorry bro in the entertainment there is really not enough room for everybody save your youth while you can

Date: 2014-11-10 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 21banged.livejournal.com
I didn't think I'd be this bitter that Jinhyeong didn't make IKON, but goddamn I actually am hella pressed boy would have been perfect fuck you YG :'(

Also, has anyone else seen that Hanbin's dad allegedly got caught for embezzlement? Like shieeeeetttt that's so devastating to find out :(((

Date: 2014-11-10 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
It must've been horrible for Hanbin to find out his dad was involved in such a thing. :( I feel bad for everyone affected, from Hanbin to his mother and sister to all the families ruined by this. His dad should rot in jail for his crime.

Date: 2014-11-10 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuzuruhanyu.livejournal.com
i wonder if yg is going to pull a uniq on them and send them off to another company to debut instead. i wonder why hongseok and jinhyeong didn't ask to be rec'd to another company, especially hongseok, but we'll see tbh.

Date: 2014-11-10 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missingmisnomer.livejournal.com
I mean, I'd like Hongseok to use the popularity and momentum from the show to get into another company but I think Jinhyeong might have a harder time getting into another company with those untrue iljin rumours and I've always said he seems really comfortable at YG so I'm not surprised that he's staying.
They'll get to use YG's resources for a year and if they're smart they'll take away as much knowledge as they can. Hongseok in particular needs a LOT more vocal training and dance training and maybe Jinhyeong can work on his confidence in performances and learn about song production to make himself more appealing to other companies.
Hey, at the end of the year they might improve so much YG decides to keep them around. I'd love if they could become the YG version of Fly To the Sky as someone else noted above. Slow Korean RnB and ballads could work for both of their voices.
But lbr, that won't happen. YG is just doing this to seem less cruel.
Edited Date: 2014-11-10 12:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-11-10 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekokonneko.livejournal.com
so they're going to end up like the supearls, locked up and neglected for a year before being dropped

Date: 2014-11-10 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
Pretty much, though they are tall and good looking so they have better chances than Supearls.

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Date: 2014-11-10 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cedric-mcfly.livejournal.com
Yeah mixed feelings about this like everyone else.

On one hand i like that he kept them in the company, since they both seem to want to be there, plus we can keep hope that YG might use them here and there, so we won't forget what they look like! ;)
On the other hand tho, with Ikon debuting and the girls slooowly coming, i can't see YG investing on a new boygroup anytime soon.

Date: 2014-11-10 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milafanway.livejournal.com
LMAO YG like always.............someone burn his hat
I was praying for them to go away...anyways I hope they have WIFI in the dungeon, it's Korea, of coure they have WIFI -.-

Date: 2014-11-10 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
If they stay they have access to the training facility and get time to improve and anyone interested in them moving to their company know where to go to find them.

They need more training either way and Jinhyeong could go to Yedam's group or YG gets more trainees after KPS4 ends

Modeling and Acting are also option in the midterm. Hongseok was in a model group during the JYP auditon he was in with Donghyuk

They could also go back to school while training if they get a set schedule
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Date: 2014-11-10 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyocinema.livejournal.com
When I read this, my mind instantly went back to Michelle Lee.

YG only accepted her so they could have bragging rights to having an actual black person in the agency and he did the exact same thing with her after they broke up the group they were going to place her in: he kept her in for a while and then once most of the public forgot about her, she was dropped instantly.

And because the hype was gone and she wasn't "a true Korean" (wtfever, k-netz), when she finally released a single, it flopped despite positive reviews.

These poor boys are probably going to suffer the same fate...

~JYP, you're my last hope~

Date: 2014-11-10 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danni14nino.livejournal.com
They should have left for another company, but they're both still young so they probably just wanted to stay somewhere where they're comfortable instead of looking elsewhere. Yes, they have access to training facilities and have time to hone their skills, but obviously any other company that picked them up would train them some more before debuting them. Ugh, I'd hate for these two to rot in YG's basement for a year, be forgotten, and then not find another agency. At the very least, I hope YG has promised to look for another agency for them. If Hong Seok does the solo ballad route, he should be fine despite his age. I really felt bad for him after the last episode of M&M so I hope he debuts soon. Jinhyeong is still young enough to debut in a boy group even if it's five years from now and it's not that he's lacking the skills, he just needs to get over his nervousness. *Sigh*

Date: 2014-11-10 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aki-san.livejournal.com
I can see Jinhyeong getting in to Bang Yedam's group since they're both in the same general age range, but idk what kind of place Hongseok could have at YG. I know that the agency's image is changing with their recent releases, but I have serious doubts about a ballad singer working out there. :-/ Take YG's resources and after the year's up, run!

Date: 2014-11-10 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canxi.livejournal.com
Isn't Bang Yedam only 13 now? Hmm, would Jinhyeong stay for 3 or so years?
I think I would train for one or two and then bounce since YG doesn't seem to have a problem letting people go if they want to go.
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