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On the October 17th episode of JTBC Witch Hunt, solo artist G.NA revealed her thoughts on the differences between gay and straight men.



In addition to G.NA, Oh Chang Suk appeared as a guest on the latest episode. During the program, a cut scene of Shin Dong Yup and G.NA was mentioned, and due to the fact that the skit was meant to provoke sexuality, she blushed cutely.

Hong Suk Chun, a famous gay celebrity in Korea, responded by stating that he can hug G.NA without hesitation, and G.NA positively responded to his statement.

When Shin Dong Yup asked G.NA if there was a difference bwetween hugging a straight man and a gay man, she immediately responded by saying that it is “totally different”. She further commented that gay men can understand women a lot better, and called Hong Suk Chun her girlfriend.

Source: My Daily, koreaboo


What do you think of G.Na's statement(s), Omona?
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Date: 2014-10-19 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cricket.livejournal.com
She further commented that gay men can understand women a lot better

nope

and called Hong Suk Chun her girlfriend

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Date: 2014-10-19 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laeryn.livejournal.com
I knew I was going to hate the answers just from the title, damn.

Date: 2014-10-19 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leighbee333.livejournal.com
Yep. Had a feeling we weren't heading anywhere enlightened or nuanced.

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Date: 2014-10-19 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paper-palms.livejournal.com
I think that while she may have been joking, her statements are harmful, or at the very least stereotyping/generalizing (which is usually not a good thing to do in the long run).

"Gay men can understand women a lot better"? Since when? I seriously don't think that being a gay man automatically causes said men to be able to understand how a woman thinks, or how women experience lives. Not to mention that women (and men. everyone in general) are not some hive-minded group. Cool if you know how some women think, but don't assume that you're an expert on everyone of that sex/gender. But, really, gay men are completely capable of being misogynistic. They are not "above" it.

"..and called Hong Suk Chun her girlfriend."
Again, she may have been joking, and this may just be something that is between her and him. But, if she has that attitude towards all/most gay men, then MAJOR SIDE-EYE. Why is it okay to assign your own gender (one that they do not identify with) to another person simply because of who they are sexually attracted to, or how they may/may not act? idk mang.

That's how I feeels~.

I can understand though when she says that it's a different feeling hugging a straight guy and a gay guy, if only for the fact that one side is less likely to try and get into your pants. But still.
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Date: 2014-10-19 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shintotchi.livejournal.com
I was prepared when I saw Cersei sippin wine. Smh

Date: 2014-10-19 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allegsiseu.livejournal.com
buni is one of our few wank queens. bless her

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Date: 2014-10-19 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayitisso.livejournal.com
typical, basically. i think a lot of people are "victims" of this kind of thinking. when i go out with supposed straight guy friends, my bf is always tense, but when i go out with openly gay guy friends, my bf is totally cool with it... as he would be if i were going out with girls. maybe not the best example, but as is with gna calling sukchun her "girlfriend," the problem is when people confuse sexuality with gender and say nonsense like this.

we still have a long way to go.i still find myself thinking sometimes that my gay guy friends understand me better, that i can relate to them better than my straight guy friends, that i can talk to them about things i would usually only talk about with my girl friends, but i really try to correct that and remember that they're still men, gay or not.

Date: 2014-10-20 03:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com
I think her calling him girlfriend is like close boy-girl friends calling each other as unnie/hyung

and idt it's wrong to talk more with friends, because it's not really about gender/sexuality, but it's about how close you are with them and how much you can trust them, also because how relatable you are about the topic

I still believe that being open and less sensitive about things will actually let people to learn more about issues, not blaming/condemning people everytime they say 'wrong' things because it'll actually drive people away and creating fractions which actually disturb the information exchange

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Date: 2014-10-19 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
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G.NA girl, I liked you but you (and a lot of other women actually [CL you too]) need to stop with this feminizing of gay men just because of their sexuality. Misgendering is just wrong, period.
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Date: 2014-10-19 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyocinema.livejournal.com
this gif is getting a workout lately, innit?

(not that I mind though mm mm mm...)

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Date: 2014-10-19 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leighbee333.livejournal.com
Look at this microaggression realness from G.NA!

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Don't stop gurl, tell us more about your "girlfriend"!

Date: 2014-10-19 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yolleh.livejournal.com
Yesssss, go IN on her!

Date: 2014-10-19 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aridnili.livejournal.com
Gurl, no

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Date: 2014-10-19 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
just because they're gay doesn't mean they understand us better
some gay men can be assholes and perceive the female gender as irrelevant to them

Date: 2014-10-19 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] af-fx-tion.livejournal.com
ilu but lol no gina

Date: 2014-10-19 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alleybetwixt.livejournal.com
It's just the very ignorant/misinformed stereotype that a gay man is essentially a woman.
Which is wrong, of course. So, there's that.

Plus it's the very ignorant/misinformed stereotype that women have perfect understanding of each other and men have perfect understanding of each other without any overlap, because the genders are like different species or some-such nonsense.

What we have here is what I like to call Double Dumb. Super duper Double Dumb.
Way to go, G.NA!

Date: 2014-10-19 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
Double Dumb, another DD G.na can now be know for

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Date: 2014-10-19 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shineebambi.livejournal.com
Well color me shocked at all of these sterotypes and generalizations

Re: G.NA girl...

Date: 2014-10-19 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Kingsley is abit angry for my tastes but I do agree with him about the explicit stories. So many times people have asked me if I have one night stands and threesomes and it's so gross.

Re: G.NA girl...

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Re: G.NA girl...

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Re: G.NA girl...

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Date: 2014-10-19 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
Well...we all already know Gna isn't the sharpest tool in the shed bless her heart

Kind of wish he challenged those stereotypes but I get he's still working his way through the industry
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Date: 2014-10-20 05:20 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2014-10-19 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyocinema.livejournal.com
I smell sarcasm?

Date: 2014-10-19 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
"and called Hong Suk Chun her girlfriend."

Umm as long as he's comfortable with that it's w/e but your gender isn't decided by who you're attracted to. Are the lesbians you know your boyfriends?

Date: 2014-10-19 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hurtmybones.livejournal.com
would she even have lesbian friends tho? from what I've seen, women who treat gay men like this, suspiciously enough, have close to 0 lesbian friends

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Date: 2014-10-19 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-bone (from livejournal.com)
They had a real live gay person present and still felt the need to ask a str8 girl smh

Date: 2014-10-19 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyocinema.livejournal.com
THIS. SO. HARD.

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Date: 2014-10-19 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgenderper.livejournal.com
No.
Image (http://imgur.com/WqlONl3)

Date: 2014-10-19 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chimpansee.livejournal.com
But what did Hong Suk Chun say?

Date: 2014-10-20 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-rei.livejournal.com
The only thing I thought I read about a response from him was when she was asked about the hugging thing he said he had "no feeling" -- maybe saying it's just comfortable or whatever.

Date: 2014-10-19 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoppedclock321.livejournal.com
There's so much wrong I don't even know what to say.

Date: 2014-10-19 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cooliosa.livejournal.com
not as bad as the person on my icon but i'm gonna keep my gay mouth shut

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Date: 2014-10-19 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilvalenstrife.livejournal.com
Yup. This was going to be just as "intelligent" as I thought it would be. G.na, no.
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