I don't know why Junhoe can breath and I laugh like a crazy person ._____________. Hongseok is visually interesting o.o omg I always forget how young they're........
I don't watch this show, but chanwoo makes me wanna hug him and tell him that everything is going to be ok every time that he is on screen. I'm getting worried with this affection.
Okay, so he's the second oldest behind Jinhwan, who I think I have a thing for. Not sure, yet. However, OP, what's your beef with him? Is he not worthy of my love? Lol.
The fact you can identify who I am talking about from my description says everything no?
We'll see if he can change my mind but episode 2 didn't leave me with an interest in him beyond the thought that he doesn't want it enough.
During the episode while Hanbin was giving them real talk Yunhyeong spoke some truth too...
B.I: Did you practice yesterday, hyung? Hongseok: I left after our 3 teams practiced separately. B.I: Okay. So that means you didn’t practice the dance then. I said at the last recording that you need to practice til 4-5 a.m. before you go. -flashback- B.I: Hyung, from today on, you should barely be able to sleep. After they all leave, you should stay here and practice as long as I’m here. Learn the moves from Donghyuk, memorize it quickly and just keep practicing. -end of flashback- B.I: You should work harder than me at least. How can you not practice at all when you’re competing against the 3 original members? I’ve never seen you practice. All of you are the same. You guys practice too. Really, all of you don’t practice as much as we do. Really. Do you have confidence? Do you have the confidence to win (against the original members)? If it was me, I’d practice all night long. Even if I got frustrated, I’d do it. You don’t have any motivation to do it. Why do I have to do this right now? It’s unfair, isn’t it? Hongseok: No. B.I: I’d rather you feel that it’s unfair. I’d rather you feel unfair that you practiced really hard and you couldn’t show what you practiced properly and that’s why I’m yelling at you. If I had to say honestly, you three aren’t that desperate are you? If you make it then you make it and if you don’t, then you don’t, right? Yunhyeong: I’m also curious about that. For us three (Yunjundong), if we don’t make it, then we don’t make it. For Junhwe and I, we’ve been here for 2 and a half years. If we don’t make this team then we won’t make it. But you guys have been here for 2-3 months. This is a really good chance for you guys. You can’t just compete with the three of you. You have to look at us 3 (original members) and compete. You have to try to win against Hanbin, then you can win against us. B.I: Do you really want to do this, hyung? Do you have any feelings of desperation? Hongseok: Even to myself, I know I haven’t been doing a satisfactory job and I know I haven’t been doing my best. So I’ll work hard. I’m really sorry to you guys. B.I: Having a nosebleed is a normality. You should feel like you’re dying from tiredness. Why sleep? Why go to the dorm? Why rest? There’s no such a thing as a weekend. Do well.
sigh, at least Hongseok didn't fight Hanbin and knew he was right (talk about ep 3). I want him in the group cause he fits in visual and his voice has the most potential.
I get why people are put off by him but kfans like him the best it seems
Like Hanbin I wish he had felt it was unfair because that would mean he had been practicing as directed...it's worse that he knows he's wrong. We'll have to see how he improves and how stable he is on stage because right now he's still a karaoke singer.
We must be reading different DC Gall posts and comments in articles because as far as Hongseok is concerned kfans don't feel his desperation or desire to be on the team and really feel bad for Hanbin having to get everyone up to standard.
I'm picking up what you're putting down OP, I was so mad at Hongseok when he started checking himself out when someone else was talking! Like WHY?!?!?
Was sad that my bby Yunhyeong was so quiet and un characteristically funny, but I still love him <3333 Also Chanwoo and Jinhyung(?) need to gtfo from my life I love them and now there are so many conflicted feelings inside me like why are they so cute and what do I do if one of them is cut like I can't handle that YG you asshole
BI being all hyper in these vids seriously gives me life, stop trying to be my bias >>
I was cringing during that first introduction between Hongseok and the others, it was so tense but it felt like Hongseok couldn't read the atmosphere. Awkwaaaard.
THIS keeps me alive tbh. Walking down the street and hearing Bobby and BI's songs. Last Friday I went clubbing and when they played Bobby's L4L I was going crazy....TBH everyone in the club was XD
I'm not seeing the cute in Hongseok...in fact he's funny looking to me. Maybe it's just really bad pics of him in the Tumblr Ikon tag (not that that would make me like him more).
Well OP, at least we sort of had our wish come true (from the last post)...? Lol.
I mean he's not straight out bad, but he just gives me the wrong vibes. Like the lacking practice, disrespect shown in this vid, that first meeting that had me cringing hard. (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, don't you have to show deference to sunbae trainees even if they're the same age/younger than you? It was just really weird to me that he asked Jinhwan to be friends right away when Jinhwan is supposedly one of the longest-lasting trainees around, idk.)
He's still cute and a decent singer, I guess, but after seeing what OT6 had to go through for WIN..... yeah.
I'm not even a fan and I feel like people are being too hard on this new kid. Yall realize by asking jinhwan to be friends he's just establishing cultural norms/whether he needs to speak in jongdae or banmal, right? It's generally something most people establish on the first time they meet, and since he's older than the rest of the members he needs to get that stuff straight from the get go. Just because he wasnt awkward and shitting his pants like the other two during the first meeting doesn't mean he was rude or deserved the shit they talked about him during the bts interviews. iirc team's b's behavior towards him in his episode is stirring up a lot of controversy for being unnecessarily antagonistic among k-netizens so that says something about how they came across in this episode. im particularly disappointed in junhwe tbh
Honestly, as kid who has NO dancing experience whatsoever and is just getting settled in (into the dorms, filming and practice in general) it's not the end of the world that he left at 1~2am with the rest of the group instead of staying up the whole night. Plus he didn't say anything about Hanbin lecturing him in what was clearly a very brusque way despite being a hyung and apologized promptly without making any excuses. i really don't get the beef people have with him.
Nothing he did was rude...I think the others members just expected the new member to be like Chanwoo + Jinhyeong, who were both painfully shy, obedient and timid. Instead, they found themselves in the presence of someone who was confident, forward and straight with them - which perhaps they didn't feel to be appropriate behavior in that situation (being a newbie).
As for being distant and disengaged at times, I can't say I blame Hongseok tbh...it's very hard to try with people who make it clear that you're the outsider. It's such a pity that he doesn't mesh with the rest of them though, because I think he'd be quite an asset to iKON (visuals and vocal talent). Having said that, if the dynamics between them remain as they were in this episode, then I don't think Hongseok will be in the group. Anyone that adversely affects their teamwork, unfortunately, can't stay.
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Date: 2014-09-26 07:23 pm (UTC)hehe
They seem fun.
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Date: 2014-09-26 08:08 pm (UTC)Hongseok's legs are endless. Visual material.
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Date: 2014-09-26 08:25 pm (UTC)Hongseok is visually interesting o.o
omg I always forget how young they're........
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Date: 2014-09-27 12:32 am (UTC)The one on the end......legal?Okay, so he's the second oldest behind Jinhwan, who I think I have a thing for. Not sure, yet. However, OP, what's your beef with him? Is he not worthy of my love? Lol.
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Date: 2014-09-27 01:07 am (UTC)We'll see if he can change my mind but episode 2 didn't leave me with an interest in him beyond the thought that he doesn't want it enough.
During the episode while Hanbin was giving them real talk Yunhyeong spoke some truth too...
B.I: Did you practice yesterday, hyung?
Hongseok: I left after our 3 teams practiced separately.
B.I: Okay. So that means you didn’t practice the dance then. I said at the last recording that you need to practice til 4-5 a.m. before you go.
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B.I: Hyung, from today on, you should barely be able to sleep. After they all leave, you should stay here and practice as long as I’m here. Learn the moves from Donghyuk, memorize it quickly and just keep practicing.
-end of flashback-
B.I: You should work harder than me at least. How can you not practice at all when you’re competing against the 3 original members? I’ve never seen you practice. All of you are the same. You guys practice too. Really, all of you don’t practice as much as we do. Really. Do you have confidence? Do you have the confidence to win (against the original members)? If it was me, I’d practice all night long. Even if I got frustrated, I’d do it. You don’t have any motivation to do it. Why do I have to do this right now? It’s unfair, isn’t it?
Hongseok: No.
B.I: I’d rather you feel that it’s unfair. I’d rather you feel unfair that you practiced really hard and you couldn’t show what you practiced properly and that’s why I’m yelling at you. If I had to say honestly, you three aren’t that desperate are you? If you make it then you make it and if you don’t, then you don’t, right?
Yunhyeong: I’m also curious about that. For us three (Yunjundong), if we don’t make it, then we don’t make it. For Junhwe and I, we’ve been here for 2 and a half years. If we don’t make this team then we won’t make it. But you guys have been here for 2-3 months. This is a really good chance for you guys. You can’t just compete with the three of you. You have to look at us 3 (original members) and compete. You have to try to win against Hanbin, then you can win against us.
B.I: Do you really want to do this, hyung? Do you have any feelings of desperation?
Hongseok: Even to myself, I know I haven’t been doing a satisfactory job and I know I haven’t been doing my best. So I’ll work hard. I’m really sorry to you guys.
B.I: Having a nosebleed is a normality. You should feel like you’re dying from tiredness. Why sleep? Why go to the dorm? Why rest? There’s no such a thing as a weekend. Do well.
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Date: 2014-09-27 01:35 am (UTC)I get why people are put off by him but kfans like him the best it seems
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Date: 2014-09-27 01:40 am (UTC)We must be reading different DC Gall posts and comments in articles because as far as Hongseok is concerned kfans don't feel his desperation or desire to be on the team and really feel bad for Hanbin having to get everyone up to standard.
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Date: 2014-09-27 02:21 am (UTC)Was sad that my bby Yunhyeong was so quiet and un characteristically funny, but I still love him <3333 Also Chanwoo and Jinhyung(?) need to gtfo from my life I love them and now there are so many conflicted feelings inside me like why are they so cute and what do I do if one of them is cut like I can't handle that YG you asshole
BI being all hyper in these vids seriously gives me life, stop trying to be my bias >>
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Date: 2014-09-27 02:30 am (UTC)Hanbin is my bias...let him into your life
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Date: 2014-09-27 04:02 am (UTC)Jinhwan is becoming my fast favorite, idk why.
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Date: 2014-09-27 06:08 am (UTC)This is funnier because I've been hearing Go and Be I CONSTANTLY here
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Date: 2014-09-27 09:16 am (UTC)I mean he's not straight out bad, but he just gives me the wrong vibes. Like the lacking practice, disrespect shown in this vid, that first meeting that had me cringing hard. (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, don't you have to show deference to sunbae trainees even if they're the same age/younger than you? It was just really weird to me that he asked Jinhwan to be friends right away when Jinhwan is supposedly one of the longest-lasting trainees around, idk.)
He's still cute and a decent singer, I guess, but after seeing what OT6 had to go through for WIN..... yeah.
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Date: 2014-09-27 05:28 pm (UTC)Honestly, as kid who has NO dancing experience whatsoever and is just getting settled in (into the dorms, filming and practice in general) it's not the end of the world that he left at 1~2am with the rest of the group instead of staying up the whole night. Plus he didn't say anything about Hanbin lecturing him in what was clearly a very brusque way despite being a hyung and apologized promptly without making any excuses. i really don't get the beef people have with him.
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Date: 2014-09-27 07:08 pm (UTC)As for being distant and disengaged at times, I can't say I blame Hongseok tbh...it's very hard to try with people who make it clear that you're the outsider. It's such a pity that he doesn't mesh with the rest of them though, because I think he'd be quite an asset to iKON (visuals and vocal talent). Having said that, if the dynamics between them remain as they were in this episode, then I don't think Hongseok will be in the group. Anyone that adversely affects their teamwork, unfortunately, can't stay.
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