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Top spot on music charts immediately after release, line-up of tracks on music charts, continuous first place on music shows—these are not always descriptive of existing groups. It also describes WINNER. It is the story of the release of their debut track, “Empty.” YG Entertainment’s first boy group in nine years since BIGBANG, WINNER is the new monster rookie group currently taking over the music industry.

However, according to local media source EDaily, not everyone views their successes as hundred percent based on WINNER’s skills. Rather, they believe that it’s more of the YG power that lurks in the music industry. Of course a huge, well-maintained company such as YG will have the resources to give them the advantage of better marketing and promotions. But the fact that it took BIGBANG and EXO almost a year for each of them to reach the top dismisses the reasoning that it is completely the resources of a large corporation that support these groups.

In a recent interview with EDaily StarIn, members of WINNER revealed that YG’s training system was comparable to the rigorous training of spies from the 2003 film “Silmido,” with a survival of the fittest principle that exists in the jungles.

Song Minho revealed, “From the outside, YG looks like the company of your dreams with a tight system that has everything you possibly need. You may think there is no other heaven, but once you come in as a trainee and start practicing, it’s essentially like living in the wild. The company supports everything you may need, but it ends at that. Whether a trainee survives or not depends solely on the trainee himself or herself.”

Nam Taehyun added, “They don’t hold back for anyone, whether it is their contracted artists or trainees. If you tell them you need something, they will get it for you. However, they never tell you ‘do it this way.’ You have to get better and advance on your own. That’s the only way you will be able to survive.” Since Song Minho and Nam Taehyun have both experienced being a trainee in other entertainment companies, they seemed to know the differences in the systems. Getting into YG doesn’t necessarily mean a guaranteed debut.

The training period of a trainee is rigorous and difficult. Their system is based upon the system of a school curriculum so they also have a monthly test. Because YG’s leader Yang Hyun Suk is personally present for those tests, it’s been known that these performances are even more nerve-wracking than the debut performance itself. The eldest member Kim Jinwoo is the member with the longest training period among the WINNER members. His training process was so hard on him that there was a time when he had left without notice before returning. He revealed, “I had many slumps along the way.” WINNER’s debut process was similar to Kim Jin Woo’s view of his road to a debut. WINNER was only able to debut after claiming victory over another group of trainees, “WINNER Team B” (they had been “WINNER Team A”), which was aired through a reality show “WIN” last year. Even after their victory, they also had a preparation period of 10 months, which was a longer delay than expected. They gained more stage experience by performing alongside their company seniors, BIGBANG and 2NE1. Through this experience, they were able to debut successfully with an image of “a comeback of an existing group rather than a debut of a rookie group.”

Member Lee Seunghoon revealed, “We tried our best to prepare this album with emotions that everyone would has experienced one way or another. That way, the audience could relate to the tracks through the lyrics. I want to keep doing the kind of honest music that people could relate to.” Kang Seungyoon added, “We get pressured by the general public’s image of YG, as well as the enormous achievements of our company seniors, but I think that’s also what keeps us going without rest. We’re going to persevere and endure all of that pressure thankfully.”

Meanwhile, WINNER swept the charts with their new album, “2014 S/S.” Has everyone listened to the album? What do you think?

Nate comments:
1. [+432, -73] No need for more words if even an iljin considers the place scary

2. [+384, -54] Scary artists, scary media play

3. [+277, -44] The company's like a mob connected with the government alright

4. [+293, -171] YG artists are practically all out of a gang... added a Japanese right-wind model to the list as of yesterday.

5. [+37, -14] Of course YG is like heaven! Isn't that the #1 company trainees try to get into? Just imagine debuting, you can do anything you want. Look at what Park Bom was able to do with all that lobbying. Now her drug scandal is nowhere to be found and she's promoting just fine.
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Naver comments:
1. [+1,764, -253] Reminds me of the phrase surviving is winning. They survived the battle royale that was the jungle and are now the winners. Let's not credit the jungle to them being or looking strong.

2. [+1,529, -304] But Winner's a group more talented than I thought, can't hate on them for being idols

3. [+1,252, -199] It's amazing how far up they've come after surviving it all. Their company has issues but they've definitely got the talent. Winner fighting.

4. [+1,192, -162] I think I remember saying even Kang Seung Yoon who usually has a strong head on his shoulders felt briefly lost in YG. After some face to face talking with Yang Hyun Suk, he realized what he needed to do. I remember reading that in his solo interview last year.

5. [+890, -84] Yang CEO likes survivals too much. I feel bad for the trainees but it does hone their talents more since they have to work to survive.

source: soompi, naver, netizenbuzz, nate

Date: 2014-08-27 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shanny-w.livejournal.com
OP, please fix your soompi link so it is clickable. Thanks!

Date: 2014-08-27 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
the difference between nate and naver comments lmao

Date: 2014-08-27 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekokonneko.livejournal.com
lmao those were my exact thoughts

Date: 2014-08-28 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com
lmao mte
which one is more representing the general public opinions tho?

Date: 2014-08-27 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hurtmybones.livejournal.com
is the center parted creature rly an iljin? I'm not following them

also lmao @ [+293, -171] YG artists are practically all out of a gang... added a Japanese right-wind model to the list as of yesterday.

Date: 2014-08-27 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
Nothing conclusive but when do they care about proof? Only thing confirmed was the fighting the kid for talking about his Mom

Date: 2014-08-27 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyonions.livejournal.com
Nate, seriously....

Date: 2014-08-27 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitty9163.livejournal.com
Them nate comments :|

Date: 2014-08-27 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
I see NB added in Naver comments because Nate is a mess.

Date: 2014-08-27 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-erotomanic.livejournal.com
yge needs to hire better modeling coaches.

those nate comments...

2. [+1,529, -304] But Winner's a group more talented than I thought, can't hate on them for being idols

this i don't get, though. do they still think idols are not talented?

Date: 2014-08-27 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hippodameia.livejournal.com
Idols in Korea are viewed in a similar light as Justin Bieber and Disney Channel stars in the U.S. Or... like Britney Spears. Not sure if that clears anything up. Most idols debut based on their marketability and not necessarily their talent or ingenuity.

Date: 2014-08-28 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaninasan.livejournal.com
maybe they're referring to the fact that winner write their own songs, which most idols don't do

Date: 2014-08-27 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellodee16.livejournal.com
The netz seriously need to lay off Kiko. Smh.

Date: 2014-08-27 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
She's a Right Wind Model apparently.

Date: 2014-08-27 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waves-of-light.livejournal.com
who's the one at the far left? ithe little one? think he's my fav and i only know 2 of them by name.

Date: 2014-08-27 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewi-matahari.livejournal.com
Baby deer, fake maknae, eternal lost child Kim Jinwoo. :)

Date: 2014-08-27 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waves-of-light.livejournal.com
mine are spazzy yum yum, captain fancypants, maroon 5, honeyblossom, and dave. but i only know mino and hoon by real name. i don't know his name on the left

Date: 2014-08-27 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewi-matahari.livejournal.com
I just gave it to you. But lmao which one of them's Dave??

Date: 2014-08-27 07:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-08-27 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
those nate comments remind me of omona/ontd

Date: 2014-08-27 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canxi.livejournal.com
Yeah, sometimes it can get really negative.

Date: 2014-08-27 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
Well...the Naver comments are interesting...Nate is Nate

Date: 2014-08-27 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
Those h(n)ate comment though

Date: 2014-08-27 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robalunch.livejournal.com
YG family family family.

Date: 2014-08-27 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
Honestly I think most people at YG are pretty nice, but unfortunately Yang Hyun Suk himself is a poisonous snake in a human form.

Date: 2014-08-27 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robalunch.livejournal.com
He's likable on kpop star but most of the time I want to strangle him. I admire him a lot though; the man has an eye for stars and "it" factors and knows how to market his company and artists. People forget he's an artist himself and has creative control of everything in YG. I can't believe he's barely in his 40s.

Date: 2014-08-27 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canxi.livejournal.com
Literally the Hunger Games. Here are your weapons. Don't die, I guess.
Also, look cute at all times.
Edited Date: 2014-08-27 09:32 pm (UTC)

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