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Girls' Generation revealed their dilemma in determining where they stood as musicians.

Recently on a show program, the group came out and revealed their great life as singers but also their behind stories about their hardships and concerns as a group.

During the interview, the staff asked them whether they were an artist or an idol. Girls' Generation debuted at an early age and reached fame quite quickly in both Korea and Japan as well as the world.

Jessica commented, "It is an honor to be called an idol group. However, now it seems that everyone who is young is an idol group."

Sooyoung commented, "Honestly, we want to be called an artist." Yuri added, "It is hard for us to state which one we are. What our fans and the public calls us is what we will be."

Through their answers, we were able to get an idea of what the members thought about being an idol and an artist.

1. [+2,543, -110] That was a good laugh ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+2,315, -94] What they just spouted is about the equivalent to a monk rapping a 16 bar rap

3. [+2,101, -83] Maybe they're asking for hate to be shoved down their throats... An absolute gag that the most idolest of them all Sooyoung is the one that said it

4. [+1,988, -62] My pet dog wants to be called a tiger as well

5. [+1,737, -75] Artist ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+1,609, -71] You can say all the bullsh*t you want in Japan but try that in Korea and you'll find yourself in deep sh*t

7. [+1,384, -68] Artist ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Funniest thing I've heard ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

8. [+1,215, -57] Wouldn't even be getting all this hate if she just kept her mouth shut...

9. [+1,181, -75] You guys are just instruments to the music created by others

10. [+1,111, -59] Sooyoung's quite ambitious for the top 3 most nugu member in SNSD...

11. [+961, -37] I remember Sooyoung said the same thing a few years ago. Do they compose or write lyrics? What can they do without the power of their company? What do they do aside from trying to gain attention with visual concepts, not music, and focusing on managing their bodies and plastic surgery? Are they talking about all the hours they put in to dance rehearsals? Shaking your butts and exposing your legs make you an artist now? I acknowledge their success as an idol, but if they have any shame at all, they should stop using the word artist.

12. [+920, -42] This is disrespectful to the real artists... SNSD does not have a musical identity and sing simple hook songs.

13. [+458, -34] Reminds me of the college report Sooyoung shamelessly wrote where she said what's the difference between SNSD winning a Daesang on the three broadcast channels and Kim Yuna winning a gold medal. She sounded like she was pissed that Kim Yuna was treated like an artist and they weren't ㅋㅋㅋ

14. [+299, -15] This is about as hilarious as Seohyun saying she wants to be the first idol turned diplomat and Taeyeon saying that becoming an idol is the equivalent to the bar exam in difficulty

15. [+196, -8] I'm a Soshi fan myself but this is seriously so wrong ㅋㅋ All they do is mouth the words to whatever song the company hands them and dance like backdancers to dances already choreographed by others on top of dressing in whatever the coordi puts them in. That's an artist? ㅋㅋ I wouldn't call idols anything more than products out of a factory.

source: netizenbuzz + naver + kpopstarz

that is the biggest joke i've heard in a while. sorry but netizens hit it right on this time, when every aspect of your life is controlled by other people who tell you how/what to do and you have basically no input in it, i dont see how you can even think about being an artist. and did sooyoung and taeyeon really say those things the netizens say? that is sad.
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Date: 2013-03-26 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imienazwisko.livejournal.com
4. [+1,988, -62] My pet dog wants to be called a tiger as well

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Date: 2013-03-26 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-rancha.livejournal.com
that comment was A+

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Date: 2013-03-26 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomaswilmoore.livejournal.com
If you want to be called artist, then you should quit GG~ and start being a real artist.

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Date: 2013-03-28 06:30 am (UTC)
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perfect gif
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Date: 2013-03-26 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allthingsgood.livejournal.com
I don't have the same holier-than-thou attitude that many people have about artistry being a title only Enlightened Music Creators can have, but of ALL the people in SNSD to talk about artistry, it should not be Sooyoung lmao. Jessica's answer was nice and PC and safe, and then Sooyoung had to go and add that.

Date: 2013-03-26 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-rancha.livejournal.com
OT BUT

hi i'm a fan
Edited Date: 2013-03-26 07:37 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-03-26 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xoxgoodbye.livejournal.com
Sooyoung, you are my fave and all, but don't kid yourself.

Date: 2013-03-26 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlie-ly.livejournal.com
netizens were harsh but true.

and also "Sooyoung's quite ambitious for the top 3 most nugu member in SNSD.." ouch, my baby OTL and the other 2 nugus are...?

Date: 2013-03-26 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miwa201.livejournal.com
I'm guessing Hyoyeon and Sunny.

Date: 2013-03-26 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asth77.livejournal.com
When I saw this on E-news...
I honestly had to come back twice to the title for its meaning to reach me and then I laughed. Really hard.
Sorry girls but hm no.

Date: 2013-03-26 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breakingreality.livejournal.com
The fucking nerve...

6. [+1,609, -71] You can say all the bullsh*t you want in Japan but try that in Korea and you'll find yourself in deep sh*t

I don't think anybody with a brain/not wearing their stan glasses will react to this positively or praise SNSD's nonexistant glorious *~artistic vision~* regardless of the country they're in.

Someone who would probably get scolded by their managers/fired if they even dared to improvise on stage cannot be called an artist.
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Date: 2013-03-26 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com
Sorry ladies! I'm a HUGE Sone, but you - or any other idol - will never be "real artists".
I - of course - see idols as "human beings" (no question at all!!!) and I hate it when people just look at them as "objects", you can treat however you want, but the whole image (music, lyrics, style,...) of idols is controlled and made by other people and that's not what an artist is for me.

I really liked Jessica's and Yuri's answers (my two biases! <3), but Sooyoung...erm not so much! :X
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Date: 2013-03-26 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
hahaha oh dear

Date: 2013-03-26 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com
After reading the comments of some netizens, it feels to me like they're only so harsh on SNSD, because they're female!
I wonder what would happen if a male idol group said what SNSD said! o.O

Date: 2013-03-26 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eternityras.livejournal.com
that's an interesting thought actually

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Date: 2013-03-26 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unicornios.livejournal.com
Oh my God gurl, don't. Start writing your songs and then maybe you can be called an artist.

This got me curious Omona, who in the kpop world would you consider an ~artist~?

Date: 2013-03-26 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hongaerin.livejournal.com
Good question... It depends what you all "artist". If an artist is someone involved in the process of writing / producing the song he will be singing, then:
Probably GD, because he is really involved in the writing / producing of songs, both for BB and himself.
CNBLUE as well, only Jungshin has not yet really participated in the writing / production of a song.
Henry has written songs for SJ and produced a good part of the last SJM album, so I think you can call him an "artist" as well.

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Date: 2013-03-26 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erbalurbal.livejournal.com
Yuri can say that because she actually writes songs. Its obvious that a few of them want to be more than just dolls. Unfortunately, that won't happen until snsd starts to flop and sm stops caring about what they do.

Date: 2013-03-26 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bestsama.livejournal.com
sooyoung's written 2 songs tho?

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Date: 2013-03-26 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taylorniw.livejournal.com
lmao netizen comment 4 killed me

Date: 2013-03-26 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
For once I agree with netizens as while I don't think you need to write your own music and lyrics in order to be called an artist I think you need to be largely in control of the process (picking producers, talking with them etc.) and SNSD has zero control.

Date: 2013-03-26 09:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-03-26 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laceandskin.livejournal.com
I don't think they understand what makes someone an artist.
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Date: 2013-03-26 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurora2687.livejournal.com
I wish I had a 'rolls eyes' gif or something, I don't know why everyone's jumping down their throats because what I got from this is they want to aspire to be artist's in the future.

And from past experience there probably has been some cutting and pasting of certain sentences to create a stir by a journalist. I'd love to see a full translation of the interview to get everything in context.

Otherwise I hope they can gain more control of their music in the future, but judging from Suju, I don't know!

Date: 2013-03-26 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tees2mai.livejournal.com
the show hasn't been subbed yet (it aired yesterday) but here's a gifset from tumblr:

Q: People call you idols, do you think of yourselves as idols right now?

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Date: 2013-03-26 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosetta16.livejournal.com
There was actually no correct answer for this, if they had said "Idol" people would still bash on them, so, whatever....

Date: 2013-03-26 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xalexandriam.livejournal.com
lol bless their hearts. :')

Date: 2013-03-26 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrt131n.livejournal.com
I think if the girls wish to become artist then they are going to have to really step up, voice their opinion in the studio. The dancing is one thing, most groups don't have members that can come up with a routine on their own. They need them in order to enhance a performance. It will be really hard I think for SNSD to make it to that level as artist at the rate that they are going musically.

Date: 2013-03-26 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suntae.livejournal.com
i love snsd but those are some major delusions of grandeur.

personally i think that there are a few idols out there right now who are attempting to blur the lines between idol and artist (JYJ's Junsu, for example) but unsurprisingly none of them are with sm.

Date: 2013-03-26 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miwa201.livejournal.com
lol Sooyoung plz. I love the girls, but they are just idols.

I honestly don't think there are any real "artists" in the idol business. These are all people who went through a training process, were styled to fit a certain image, and finally were manufactured to some extent. It applies to everyone, even Big Bang.

Date: 2013-03-26 07:22 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-03-28 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prismboy.livejournal.com
My thoughts exactly.

Date: 2013-03-26 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katzsong.livejournal.com
6. [+1,609, -71] You can say all the bullsh*t you want in Japan but try that in Korea and you'll find yourself in deep sh*t

Excuse you netizen, Japanese audiences really know the difference between idols and artists. I don't think they consider SJJD as artists (though they might be called like that on music shows, as a part of courtesy, but I don't think the audience think of them like that).

Just gonna leave this here:
Image (http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/frusengladje/media/grumpycatno_zpsdf905c00.jpg.html)


Date: 2013-03-26 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supplanter.livejournal.com
It's probably just nationalism at play, otoh, maybe k-netizen is conceding that J-netizens may be more polite about calling out bullshit. XD;;

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Date: 2013-03-26 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yellowesque.livejournal.com
idk i interpreted this as them saying that moving forward they'd like to go in that direction because they have been/plan on being in the industry for a while. but if netizens/omona want to jump down people's throats for an innocuous comment who am i to stop them n__n
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