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Article: Police under controversy for asking a ridiculous question to sexual assault victim

Source: Korea Ilbo via Naver

A 19 year old woman was raped by three people at a night club, one man a 33 year old level 7 civil servant. Four hours after the rape occurred, she reported the case to a sexual assault support center and underwent police investigation.



During the investigations, a police asked A, "How long did the penises of your assailants measure?" A replied that they were small, and the police asked again, "Please tell us in the exact cm how long they were." A was taken aback at the question and paused for a while before answering, "About the size of a palm."

The recording was used as evidence in court. A's lawyers argued that the police had attacked her with intrusive questions, while the assailant's lawyer argued that "Because the victim was not able to say the exact measurement in girth or length of their penis size, the victim is lying as her story lacks any truth."

Judge ruled that it is impossible to expect the victim to remember the size and charged the three men with gang rape, sentencing them to prison ranging from 8 months to 3 years.

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1. [+395, -12] I want to ask the police... Do they take out a ruler and measure the penis before they proceed with intercourse?

2. [+368, -13] They were charged with gang rape and only received prison sentences from 8 months to 3 years... A swear is coming out of my mouth. The bare minimum should be 30 years... All of the judges have rocks for brains

3. [+356, -13] That civil servant is an idiot. He didn't even think of seducing her out of the night club. How much of a loser is he that he had to just rape her there? Seems like he was drunk off of desperation... Too much of a loser to properly seduce a girl, too much of a loser for any normal girl to even consider him. Now that he'll be fired from his job, he'll be unemployed at age 30 with no sense of respect and a small penis. What a life.

4. [+299, -13] 8 months to 3 years ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 8 month ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ The judges seem to think rape is about as bad as punching someone... but to the victim, it is basically murdering them on an emotional and psychological level.

5. [+261, -13] I can't even imagine how hard it was for the victim to have to recount what had happened as it was... How could they have even expected her to look at their penises and measure it in the midst of what was happening? I heard victims will normally ask to be investigated by a female police because of the embarrassment they feel but how could a fellow woman do this to her?

Source: Netizenbuzz,Naver





Article: Man sentenced to 5 years in prison for the repeated rape of a mentally handicapped woman

Source: Yonhap News via Nate

38 year old man was given a 5 year prison sentence for the habitual sexual assault of a mentally handicapped 15 year old, who he met on an internet chatting site. He force fed her alcohol and then sexually assaulted her.


The court ordered an additional 80 hours of counseling, his personal information be available in public records for 5 years, and that he wear an electronic anklet for 10 years.

The same man has history of receiving a 1 year prison sentence and 2 years of probation for committing a "quasi-indecent act by compulsion" (anyone know wtf this means?) against a 19 year old mentally handicapped woman prior to this case.

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1. [+120, 4] Repeated sexual assault and he was only sentenced to 5 years???? Could the judge have made the same decision if it was his daughter in question... What a joke

2. [+96, -3] I heard in other countries, people are sentenced to 15 years for child abuse. Sexual assault gets 5 years? Sexual assault against a mentally handicapped woman? Are you kidding me?

3. [+38, -3] The judge seems to be mentally handicapped himself

4. [+11, -2] A repeat offender... against a minor... mentally handicapped women... He obviously never learned what he did wrong and yet they only gave him 5 years? Do they think these lives are some kind of joke? Even as a man, I'm enraged, I can't even imagine how women feel. 500 years or death, anything less than that is not enough...

"If the judge hadn't given him such a light sentence to begin with, who knows whether he would've been back out and committing the same crime again? It's because they hand out stupid sentences like these that the victim remains the victim in the end. Five years later, that man will be back out repeating the same crimes again."

Source: Netizenbuzz,Nate
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Date: 2013-02-23 03:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-23 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pepper.livejournal.com
Wow, I can't even... what.

Date: 2013-02-23 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyminstrel.livejournal.com
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT QUESTION AND FUCK THAT REPEAT OFFENDER, FUCK HIM TO HELL!!!

Date: 2013-02-23 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aures.livejournal.com
the first one.. OMG, i can't even! what the f*ck is with that question, wth

this is all so so sad i don't even know

Date: 2013-02-23 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellodee16.livejournal.com
are you fuckin' kidding me?
sorry she didn't bother measuring the peens while she was being raped. WTF.

also, they gave the scumbag who repeated his crime again only 5 yrs?
won't be surprised that he'd do it again.

come on, Korea.
Edited Date: 2013-02-23 04:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-23 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valieleen.livejournal.com
I'm glad the judge didn't buy into that bullshit.

Date: 2013-02-23 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com
I'm crying over the light sentences all of those assholes got! >:(

And what is wrong with those police officer in the first case?

Date: 2013-02-23 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genie17.livejournal.com
This country needs to change how they handle sexual assault cases! I still cannot fathom how the hell rapists and sex offenders get light sentences. >>

Date: 2013-02-23 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakura-holic.livejournal.com
These need stricter laws!! Why can't they put a international standard so that all the countries don't give shitty sentences like these!
For e.g - How about rape sentences not exceeding a particular amount of year atleast those bastards won't walk away with just some short jail time just so they can walk out soon and do this again!

Date: 2013-02-23 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karavanuemura.livejournal.com
These are stupid. Sexual assault, how minimum they are, is still a sexual assault. It could mean the whole world to the victim.

About the QUASI-INDECENT ACT OF COMPULSION, I am not Korean, but this law is in Type 1 of Sexual Crimes in Korea, "quasi" from what I learned in our ObliCon is "almost,but not entirely" so by that; it may probably mean almost had an indecent act of forcing her of rape.

Date: 2013-02-23 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjspice.livejournal.com
OMFG! WHAT IN THE FUCKIN WORLD?!?!?

Date: 2013-02-23 05:54 pm (UTC)
dipropylene: (simpsons - homer)
From: [personal profile] dipropylene
The hell is that question...


sentencing them to prison ranging from 8 months to 3 years

That's about the same here in Finland (sometimes sentences are not even as little as 8 months) :/ People may think this country is awesomecakes, but our criminal policy is actually totally fucked up.

Date: 2013-02-23 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] subi.livejournal.com
Totally seconding you on that. DX (I'm a Finn, too!)

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Date: 2013-02-23 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katzsong.livejournal.com
WTF...in this age of DNA and genetical stuffs, SK police's still using dick's measurement as evidence? WTH IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE??!!

And that repeated offenders stuff ...I just...just can't.

/outta here

Date: 2013-02-23 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
So disgusting that is not only SK, shit like this happens in the whole world.

To my knowledge most countries handle pretty badly rape cases. Their questionings are badly designed, their police and judge system are not well trained to handle these cases... so much victim blame.

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Date: 2013-02-23 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yingmoon26.livejournal.com
"1. [+395, -12] I want to ask the police... Do they take out a ruler and measure the penis before they proceed with intercourse?"

SERIOUSLY. what on earth is the logic with that!? because she doesn't know the size of 3 guys who freaking RAPED her, she's lying? scumbag piece of shit lawyer

Date: 2013-02-23 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chanqsun.livejournal.com
WHAT THE FUCK!? OH YEAH IM GONNA CALCULATE THE SIZE OF EACH OF THE THREE MENS PENISES BEFORE THEY RAPE ME!!

WHAT IN THE REAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM?!

Date: 2013-02-23 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
Just clarifying that the the incident in first article happened in 2011. Not that it's improved since then...

Date: 2013-02-24 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandyyy.livejournal.com
Still think you're so great, Korea? You're citizens are just as fucked in the head as the rest of the world. Now get down off that high horse you put yourself on, and give some real fucking sentences to these pieces of shit.

Date: 2013-02-24 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
um, this comment is unnecessary. Every country thinks they're the greatest thing ever.

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Date: 2013-02-24 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicinity-love.livejournal.com
i want to punch everyone so hard right now

Date: 2013-02-24 04:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] cee-90.livejournal.com
I really can't at the police officer who asked that ridiculous question. And that lawyer that makes it an evidence to discredit the victim's testimony is just......ughhhhh this makes me so angry!


Sadly, there are still alot of country which set such low sentences on rape..It's upsetting since the victim might be scarred for life and these criminals just walk it as a phase.

Date: 2013-02-24 05:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-24 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibiyunie.livejournal.com
So much wtf here. But the thing that angers me the most are the pathetically low punishments they get.

Date: 2013-02-24 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sacryde.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, but I can't get over that jail sentences. 8 months to 3 years, wtf.

Ju Ji-hoon got 6 months for using drugs, and these scumbags get as little as 8 months for GANG RAPING someone??? I don't understand, I really don't.

Date: 2013-02-24 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 21banged.livejournal.com
That first story...I can't even what the fuck were those questions? Like, how does that help the bloody case in any way? What relevance exactly did it have, I feel so bad for the poor girl who had to go through that. That's just disgusting.

And the second story. NO. WORDS.

How is our world so fucked up?

Date: 2013-02-24 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkypo.livejournal.com
ugh. idek even know what to say. especially that first one.
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