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Crying Nut has asked Mnet to not interfere in their lawsuit against CNBLUE.

The indie band had filed a lawsuit because CNBLUE previously performed Crying Nut’s “Offside” on ‘M!Countdown‘ back in 2010 and the recorded performance was later included in their DVD released in Japan. However, Mnet had stepped forward to say they would be taking responsibility for the lawsuit.

However, Crying Nut emphasized that the problem was with CNBLUE and not Mnet. Through an official press release, they commented, “We already received compensation from the broadcast station because of the wrongful broadcast, DVD reproduction, and DVD distribution. There is nothing else that the broadcast station is responsible for anymore.”

They then explained, “The problem that’s left is with CNBLUE because they deceived and misled the viewers and the Japanese DVD buyers that Crying Nut’s own AR music was their own live sound. In other words, they have to pay for the actions of stealing our musical property (copyright, neighboring copyrights). This is not something Mnet should mediate or cooperate with. We will not be covering this up. We will be taking strict measures.”

Source: AKP, Mydaily

I have alot of respect for Crying Nut and they should protect their own rights but this is coming off a vendetta against Cnblue.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xalexandriam.livejournal.com
yes, because i'm sure the members of CN Blue actively conspired to do this shit.

rme. crying nut are not wrong in wanting to protect their intelectual property, but they're going after the wrong people. Go after MNet for using their AR recording in the first place and CNBlue's company for not giving a shit about using it on a DVD for profit.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megustaelmoney.livejournal.com
i dont think the money of the dvds went to fnc though? they asked people not to buy it at the time.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megustaelmoney.livejournal.com
They have every right to protect their own music but they're coming after the wrong people. It really is starting to look like a vendetta plus they're making a comeback...

Date: 2013-02-15 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shunluv.livejournal.com
they don't care about MNET or FNC.
their only blind purpose is to destroy CNBlue as a group and ruining those boys dream and reputation :P

Date: 2013-02-15 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandritablue.livejournal.com
I think they didn't even got performance fee....Crying Nut is releasing an album in march after 3 long years of absence, i can't help but think they are making noise marketing.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
crying nut has all the rights to fight for what is rightfully theirs, but they are going over bosrd against cnblue, it not like they went to a cave and evil laughed over their plans to steal their music.

the biggest mistake was from a company trying to profit from a cover without clearing it up with the original artists, but i doubt that cnblue acted the way they claim in this, artists cover others artists all the time.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandritablue.livejournal.com
Profit was for Mnet, Mnet released the DVD to get additional profit of all of CNBLUE's stages in M!countdown. FNC didn't authorize it and didn't get any profit of that DVD, it was all for Mnet.
FNC even asked fans to not buy it, they released official notice in their page saying they weren't involve in the production or distribution of that DVD.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shunluv.livejournal.com
yes they have every right in the world to protect their music.
but seriously they are attacking wrong people.
it is MNET & FNC they should consult.
obviously MNET have admit their mistake and already pay them,they accept the money but seem like they don't care at all and still not satisfied.

for me their purpose only to ruin CNBLUE reputation.
they seem too petty and childish with this.
why wait to do this specially during the boys important comeback this year?
why they not directly do the lawsuit when it still fresh&just happen or when MNET give them the money but only wait until now when they just doing their comeback.
the timing to too convenience lol.
blaming them for something that happen during the time the boys JUST DEBUT not too long where they are still newbie and don't have power to do any decision.

i heard CNBLUE just apologize.not sure true or not.
but if it true let just see what their reaction if they accept or not.
i mean being the sunbae but still try ruin youngsters who just started pursuing their dream when they can just settle this peacefully they sound too petty.
i hope they would just accept the apology and move on.
if they still try to make this into bigger problem after this then i don't want to believe their purpose is that innocent to protect their music only.
Edited Date: 2013-02-15 04:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-15 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
i am aware of that, mnet was the company i was talking about.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shunluv.livejournal.com
ok i expect something like this.
purposely making scandal and ruining other group reputation for marketing purpose just to promote their own album is just stupid and won't make them looking good :P
the timing is too convenience.
why they wait only now when it happen 2-3 yrs ago lol.
i hate this type of marketing if it true they gonna release album.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandritablue.livejournal.com
They already apologized but "Crying Nut" released a statement saying they don't need CNBLUE's apology, they want to go to trial and message at the end of that statement was "btw we are releasing an album in March"

Date: 2013-02-15 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asianmusiclove.livejournal.com
guys, this is about the plagiarized music now (CNBLUE's debut song remember?). In order to resolve that, they have to deal with CNBLUE directly. Sorry, but this is the ugly side of protecting one's copyrights.

Date: 2013-02-15 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megustaelmoney.livejournal.com
That was Ynot, not Crying Nut

also cnblue had no blame on that either
Edited Date: 2013-02-15 04:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-15 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shunluv.livejournal.com
and their intention is reveal lol xD
if people still try to defend them the victim of the story i would roll my eye :P
the timing is way too convenience.

i would be pissed if they win this since CNBLUE is not in fault at all but just getting drag by the greedy adult game for their dirty marketing purpose.

seriously the boys name keep getting drag in the mud since debut with Loner plagiarism which obviously not their fault as well but of course people still blame the no matter what.
i just wish the best for them.

Date: 2013-02-15 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandritablue.livejournal.com
I have so much heartache for them, everytime they do well something happens, i believe these trials make them stronger and more united but still can't help but feel heartbroken. All the issues they have been involve with were never their responsability but netizens will never let that go.

Date: 2013-02-15 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandritablue.livejournal.com
Crazy Nut is acting like they want to destroy them, it's really not fair because the responsability is on Mnet. It really breaks my heart to see them suffer yet again for something that isn't even their responsability.

What a rookie was supposed to do? they have to do what their are told by the station or get banned, M!countdown requested the song, provided the AR sound and failed to credit. It's their negligence.

Yonghwa said in his Gaon acceptance speech: "In 2013, I wish for CNBLUE to be loved more as a band." ....i guess that's not gonna happened thanks to Crying Nut.
Edited Date: 2013-02-15 05:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-15 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soongie.livejournal.com
maybe you should read past the title before posting your comment, this is not about their debut song. and it wasn't even their fault then.

Date: 2013-02-15 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p3rk3le.livejournal.com
mte. and not in a good way if you ask me..

Date: 2013-02-15 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellodee16.livejournal.com
hmm, crying nut(s) indeed.

Date: 2013-02-15 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sky-fish7.livejournal.com
Never heard about Crying Nut... But reading this makes them appear pretty dislikeable to me and not only because I am a fan of cnblue. I personally think cnblue are not the one to blame. Therefore Crying Nut should welcome people covering their songs. I'm always a fan of songcovers and hearing them often makes me interested into the original. I discovered a lot of good bands and artists through covers so in my opinion it's a good thing for an artist to get covered! And doesn't there exist the wording "imitation is the highest form of admiration"? I think, sueing cnblue now really cries for marketing - a fo of marketing that's really aggressive and that I don't apreaciate. There really must be other ways to get noticed =(

Date: 2013-02-15 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
Crying Nut is really living up to its name. Anyhow this is a stupid publicity stunt for their upcoming album and desperate try to cash into CN Blue's success (which definitely didn't happen because this performance, but their own songs).
Edited Date: 2013-02-15 08:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-15 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
Jesus Christ people, I'm only gonna give you guys the benefit of the doubt that you guys are international fans and don't know any better - Crying Nut does not NEED noise marketing. If anything CNBlue isn't even considered a band in the eyes of Crying Nut's target audience.

The issue is that even if it was the Mnet's fault, CNBlue and FNC hadn't taken responsibility for what is very disrespectful to Crying Nut; even their apology was half-assed: Crying Nut didn't even hear about the apology until it was in the news. I'm sorry, but it just looks like FNC is trying to hype up the issue more since they're the big company and have an advantage in media play.

Date: 2013-02-15 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-allure.livejournal.com
i thought this was about ji hyun woo's band and was shocked but then i realized his band was/is called The NuTs. lol

Date: 2013-02-15 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twinkystar16.livejournal.com
MNET made the DVD without prior notice and permission from FNC
FNC doesn't get a single cent from the sales of it

Date: 2013-02-15 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twinkystar16.livejournal.com
i think it's indeed media play and noise marketing
bad publicity is a publicity
and the fact they waited 3 years to file a legal suit is totally fishy

Date: 2013-02-15 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandritablue.livejournal.com
How is FNC trying to hype the issue? come on! they are the ones being sued here. Crying Nut might not need a noise market within korean grounds but internationally few people, almost no one, knows them.
If it's disrecpectful and it harms their "pride" by didn't they sue around the time MNET compensated them between 2011-2012?

Date: 2013-02-15 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/___varying/
Idk how these covers work, but given that Crying Nut aren't just crying foul over the DVD but also the actual performance, does this mean that in order to avoid this CNB would have needed to pre-record their OWN instrumental of Offside to use as a backing track during the performance (since crediting during the performance/broadcast would clearly have destroyed the illusion of them playing live)? Shouldn't someone have just told them that? They'd have needed to learn the song to hand-sync anyway.

Date: 2013-02-15 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandritablue.livejournal.com
Me too, why did they brought this up now when they got compensated in 2011-2012? why not do it then? Their deal with Mnet was pretty hush hush, no sue involved, but with CNBLUE they go witch-hunt mode on.
They have succeed to discredit CNBLUE, the few credibility among knetiz that they started to gain with this comeback is probably gone. Even if Crying Nut loses on trial, which is highly possible, damage is done.
It's like they know Mnet is to blame but still go at them to prove something...probably That they are not worthy of the title "band", to reinforce the thought in those who believe they are a fake band or just to prove that indies are superior and you shouldn't mess with them.
Edited Date: 2013-02-15 11:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-16 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/___varying/
I doubt it would have been completely impromptu, but IA that idols would not necessarily be aware of the legalities involved (CNB can't even play their own music live most of the time, after all) and Mnet should have known better (or CNB's reps, for letting them go through with it). D:

Date: 2013-02-16 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weerainbow.livejournal.com
Wow this is really starting to sound a bit obsessive. I really hope they can come to some kind of agreement because I can't see how this is helping anyone :(

Date: 2013-02-16 03:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-16 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itskimbitches.livejournal.com
This is a sad post lolz. These comments are so dramatic. Cnblue is gonna be fine and if they crumble the company will just make another just like how they made them. Its kpop there's no roots.

Date: 2013-02-16 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodyhanie.livejournal.com
really? Damn...that makes Crying Nut so pressed & vindicative. I just read the statement from FNC. When I read their statement after MNET take responsibility over this whole thing, I already thought they sounds so pressed and wonder whether they will accept if FNC issue an apology. I guess my initial reaction is correct.

I know they wanted to protect their copyright and whatnot but they already received compensation from MNET? What exactly they want from CN Blue? Money?

Date: 2013-02-16 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodyhanie.livejournal.com
Wrong issue?

Date: 2013-02-16 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodyhanie.livejournal.com
mte. CN Blue keep getting dragged into some mess. My heart aches for them really. I don't understand why after 2-3 years Crying Nut went all out asking for CN Blue's blood? They should makes the same noise when they received compensation from MNET but all that is done so quitely. This makes is looks so personal like they trying to ruin CN Blue or something. All the respect I had for them started to lose bit by bit...

Edited Date: 2013-02-16 04:01 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-16 04:16 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-16 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] of-angeldust.livejournal.com
crying nut opprs need to calm down

Date: 2013-02-16 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adorkableninja.livejournal.com
So....what exactly Crying Nuts want from this lawsuit....?

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