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Recently, a video surfaced online containing a track bearing a very strong resemblance to Girls’ Generation‘s “I Got A Boy“. The vocals are unmistakably by UK based singe Katy Tiz.

Much like the Korean version, many K-Pop listeners will have a hard time deciphering the lyrics despite having any sort of mastery of the English language. The delivery is pretty intense and provides a tougher approach to the delivery than we’re all used to.


Some fans are speculating whether or not this is merely a cover or a remix like the video suggests. However, it’s more likely that the song is actually an earlier, unfinished version of Girls Generation’s smash single with Katy Tiz serving as the vocal guide. To start, the recording is of studio quality. The resources used to create this track are unobtainable by fans or anyone other than persons with the rights for the track. Also, the fact that a recently signed recording artist, who isn’t credited in the track’s production credits, recorded the track hints that the demo was probably pitched to this artist for release before being sent to SM Entertainment. The real giveaway is in the Girls’ album booklet where it states that the original title of the song was “Shiner On You“, which Katy Tiz clearly sings in the chorus of her recording.


It’s interesting to pick out and analyze the elements that SM incorporated to mold a track from a Norwegian production team into a multi dimensional K-Pop track. Some fans have revealed their displeasure on SM for buying tracks from foreign producers rather than relying on their in-house production team. However, this proves the amount of additional layers of production and work that is involved in order to craft a song for their artists. Had the girls recorded Katy’s version as is, the track wouldn’t nearly be as spectacular in terms of weekly live performances or fitting to younger and conservative Korean audiences.


One more video worth checking out is a track rumored to be an instrumental of an upcoming collaboration by Lady Gaga and Azealia Banks titled “Ratchet“.



Personally, I don’t believe Lady Gaga will be releasing her track with this instrumental or at least in the form that it’s in now, but, the resemblance of this track (minus most of the Trap elements) to the electronic segments of “I Got A Boy” is striking nonetheless. Perhaps this supposed “Ratchet” beat (no pun intended) is an even earlier draft of “I Got A Boy”, which wouldn’t be too farfetched knowing how music in the pop industry is recycled, clipped, and filtered through many hands before finally landing in a record.


Whether this Katy Tiz track is a previous demo or not, I think it gives us a good idea of what “I Got A Boy” might sound like in English. Most likely, they’ll be re-writing the lyrics to reflect the girls’ recording. So what are your thoughts on these tracks? Do you prefer Girls’ Generation’s version over Katy Tiz’s? Let us know in the comments below.


source: akp, Kt Fan, blassh0le

I think the author might be reaching with the Ratchet instrumental, but damn.

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] molly-hime.livejournal.com
I hate the English version even more because I can understand it.
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Date: 2013-01-19 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chanqsun.livejournal.com
this always tho, lol.

Date: 2013-01-18 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bestsama.livejournal.com
this is a cover tho

Date: 2013-01-18 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oppa-did-meanit.livejournal.com
What does "I put a shine on ya" mean?

The English version is ...disturbing or something. I can't put my finger on it but I never want to hear it again.

Date: 2013-01-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
probably puts sparkles on the person??

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fay-of-sunshine.livejournal.com
hm, both versions suck. but this sucks LESS. the first half is really fun. the chorus is not great

Date: 2013-01-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightfrost75.livejournal.com
Author is reaching on a lot of things...
English is a little better since it's short like two of the extra songs that SM put in?

"I'm about to have kittens"
I bet it hurt SM to leave that line out.

Date: 2013-01-18 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boncoup.livejournal.com
I lol'd so hard at that line.

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
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As much as I don't like "I Got a Boy" as the hook, it's a little bit better than "I Put a Shine On You".

But then on the other hand, I like the empty space with clapping more than SM's soul bridge ("My boy doesn't look at me as a girl") and feel it's much less disruptive to the song. And the Katy Tiz bridge vocals ("let me put it down another way") are better than Jessica's vocals. Sooooo, I gotta say that if they'd fixed up the hook, I'd probably like the demo version more.

Date: 2013-01-18 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imyoona.livejournal.com
Tiffany says those parts not Jessica, except for 140 part which isn't in this version I think.
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Date: 2013-01-18 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
....I prefer I got a boy than "I put a shine on Ya"
but when it comes to musicaly, I actually prefer it.
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Date: 2013-01-18 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephantasm.livejournal.com
SME does this a lot... why?

Date: 2013-01-18 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rylee900.livejournal.com
Its that or YYJ tbh. So I don't complain

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
ok it actually was possible to sound stranger

Date: 2013-01-18 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flumes.livejournal.com
this is so...i was crying

Date: 2013-01-18 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
joy or pain?

maybe both?

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waterpulse.livejournal.com
Lol wow, all this debate and it's someone else's song to begin with. The English version doesn't have as many cuts and the lyrics are less grating though.

What's the point of having so many producers if you're just gonna buy someone else's song--again?

Date: 2013-01-18 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvey.livejournal.com
YJY is so tired, SMe really needs to give him a vacation and bring in house some guest producers.

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:14 pm (UTC)
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I feel the same way about After School Dilly Dally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQj8_RnoLk8) vs Let Me Down Again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwoGkXK3n2c) - English lyrics are a bit better, but "Dilly Dally Down" is an awesome hook - but in this case I like the After School singing style a bit more. So overall it's an improvement but there are some things about the demo version I like more.

Nothing wrong with buying demos, US artists do it all the time as well. If anything, I like the fact that in Korea they'll actually bother to re-record the backing track at a higher quality. US pop labels are cheap so they'll usually just replace the vocal track and keep the demo instrumental as-is (which is why they have to be recorded at such high quality in the first place).
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Date: 2013-01-18 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
I always enjoy hearing the English demo's to Kpop songs created by foreign producers, did not know the Dilly Dally one was out! You can definitely hear that more effort was put into the AS lyrics, but that usually is the case with demo vs. released tracks.

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvey.livejournal.com
am i hearing maybe one or two songs...instead of the four in IGAB? for some reason the tempo changes doesn't seem so jarring in the english version.

Date: 2013-01-18 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadistic-dance.livejournal.com
I feel the same way. The roughly three songs in this isn't as bad as the 40,000 used to make IGAB.

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsprincess.livejournal.com
Of course kpop would suck all the personality out of it and make it cutesy

Date: 2013-01-18 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
Sounds bad too
It wouldn't be the first time a song is sold twice, "One in a million" anyone?

Date: 2013-01-18 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amenooto.livejournal.com
and Mirotic/Under My Skin

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shuureii.livejournal.com
Eh, I like this demo more, actually. It packs a higher punch to me.

Date: 2013-01-19 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaich0u.livejournal.com
Same. Plus the opening is better than that horrid "AYO GG"

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com
Can def see the connection between Ratchet and I Got a Boy though, lol. Also Lady Gaga and Azalia Banks together on the same track might be cool, musically they are very different but they're both female-from-birth artists who get a lot of inspiration from trans-women and the drag/burlesque/baller scene. Would be even better if they got an actual representative of the scene to guest though, like Le1f for instance.

in all seriousness

Date: 2013-01-18 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadistic-dance.livejournal.com
Image (http://tinypic.com?ref=2j4y902)

Date: 2013-01-18 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amandaplan.livejournal.com
random: I was reading the shiner part as the shiner chorus began. perfect timing.

I think this was definitely recorded before GG released this as a single. idk which one I prefer maybe GG's at this point.

Date: 2013-01-18 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
The demo is better, still stupid. Isn't shiner a black eye.

Date: 2013-01-18 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spread.livejournal.com
Yep.
Or she's talking about her pussy...
Either one, you never know nowadays.

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spread.livejournal.com
Typical SM...

Date: 2013-01-18 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
DEMO, unless someone has proof Tiz commercially released this somewhere. Let me say the following one more time: SM entertainment often works with producers that do NOT write/produce stuff in Korean. As such, it is logical that the demo's are in English, that they exist and might even make their way online. The only problem here is that people automatically start shouting "IT'S ANOTHER COVER" when in most cases with SME, it's not. I like the GG version more, I like polished vocals.

Date: 2013-01-18 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amenooto.livejournal.com
katy appears to have just released her debut single. so i wonder if she recorded this as a possible lead single but then decided on another song.

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Date: 2013-01-18 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Who knew the song was about as original as Tiffany's face.

Low blow I know but had to make the joke..

Date: 2013-01-19 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imienazwisko.livejournal.com
Good one though, I loled :)

Date: 2013-01-18 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvipforseungri.livejournal.com
I think I prefer SNSD's version, at least for the chorus. The beginning was cool.

I wonder if SNSD recorded an english version of IGAB, like The Boys. That'd be awesome.

Date: 2013-01-18 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soramai.livejournal.com
still a mess
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