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Hong Seok Cheon is coming to SBS’ Healing Camp.

SBS confirmed reports on January 17 that the entertainer had agreed to sit down and be interviewed on Healing Camp.

It will mark Hong Seok Cheon’s first appearance in an exclusive talk show program on a major broadcasting station and the celebrity will frankly discuss his life, how he came to publicly declare his sexual orientation and the response from the public since then.

Hong Seok Cheon is a model, actor and entrepreneur who made ripples in the Korean entertainment industry in 2000 after becoming one of the first Korean stars to publicly come out as being gay.

His recording for Healing Camp will take place on January 23.

source: enewsworld

Date: 2013-01-18 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kanbinayume.livejournal.com
FLAWLESS MAN. I hope the majority of the public takes this seriously and doesn't bash him (since I know that's going to happen, sadly)

Date: 2013-01-18 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palebluedot09.livejournal.com
YESSSSSSS

I'm looking forward to this. I hope someone subs this. I love when he appears on shows.

Date: 2013-01-18 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
i really hope it will be subbed, i could watch him speak for hours.

Date: 2013-01-18 05:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-18 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unicornios.livejournal.com
He's fantastic!
I don't know if the fact that he's been invited to shows lately means that the public is becoming more understanding but I'm looking forward to this.

Date: 2013-01-18 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
I don't get why omona kisses this guy's ass so much when he's participated in shitty stuff that other celebs would never get away with...

Date: 2013-01-18 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-erotomanic.livejournal.com
what did he do?

Date: 2013-01-18 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
I guess courage accounts for nothing.

What exactly are you calling shitty though?

Date: 2013-01-18 05:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-18 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
You can't leave us hanging.

Date: 2013-01-18 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
I love the suspense..and I went to bed early.

Image (http://tinypic.com?ref=j0uyo8)
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Date: 2013-01-18 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
No, bun, there was an entire post about it. Try again.
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Date: 2013-01-18 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
But here's the thing, very few people have acknowledged his problematic actions. Of all the comments responding to my original post, only one person knew what I was referring to. How is that kissing ass while acknowledging something is problematic...?

And, well, none of these Korean stars have had repercussions for their cultural insensitivities and racism so I don't quite understand your point...
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Date: 2013-01-18 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
I was never saying that you can’t be a fan of problematic things. I was just making the point that people are constantly singing his praises without acknowledging the fucked up things he’s done, but the reasons for that could be any of those which you’ve just pointed out. Who knows.

And as a huge BB fan, I totally understand what you mean. Specifically as a Black BB fan, I reallllllly get what you mean.

But it seems perfectly fine for k-pop idols to be huge racists or sexists or homophobes without anything really happening.

Totally. I mean, look at the people who are being harmed by these racist and homophobic acts. They’re already extremely marginalized groups that many members here and in other parts of the internet don’t identify as. Why should people care if it doesn’t directly effect them? It’s difficult and exhausting to talk about this shit and people are so damn lazy.

Date: 2013-01-19 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aworldoflies.livejournal.com
okay, I think I'm the only dumb one here for not understanding this at all... err... why is this called racist? Is wearing other nation's costume means insulting? I'm sorry I just don't get it. I myself would actually like to try parading around with diffenrent nation's costumes.

Date: 2013-01-19 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dellusions.livejournal.com
mte

i've been trying to figure out what makes this racist for the last couple of days

im guessing its some american historical reference thing (sorry if you are american) that other countries wouldnt generally catch

personally i dont think there is anything wrong with that costume

Date: 2013-01-19 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
Just google "native american cultural appropriation", I'm sure you'll find something enlightening. Listen to the voices of First Nation people, maybe it'll put things in perspective and show how offensive native costumes truly are.
Edited Date: 2013-01-19 04:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-18 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swhyeon1991.livejournal.com
Is this about his NA halloween costume?

Date: 2013-01-18 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
Yup. So disappointed and so surprised there wasn't even a post about it.

Date: 2013-01-18 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swhyeon1991.livejournal.com
Oh! Actually it was posted here! I mean at least the photo. But the article didn't really talked about the cultural appropriation he did there and only a handful comments pointed it out. Welp.

Ah, here http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/10181007.html

Date: 2013-01-18 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
Well...dag. That's disappointing, but not surprising. It's bizarre how people feel like being part of one marginalized group cancels out any other privileges, prejudices, or ignorance one may have about another group. As if you can't do shitty things to oppress others...At least a few people in that post recognized that...

Date: 2013-01-18 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com
lmao what i hadn't even seen that post before, i bet lots of people hadn't too, i do like godofvanity's comment up there "I'm guessing people kiss his ass for the same reason you (or I) like SHINee: they like him while acknowledging he's problematic." except that seok cheon's particular narrative of persecution and what, despite that or because of that, he's tried to do for his community in his country, can't really be easily compared to, um, shinee's existence... but yes, this is definitely fucked up of him and he doesn't deserve to be 'let off' just because he not white/not straight/etc.
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Date: 2013-01-18 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com
yeah, this. also speaking just for myself, i haven't read this comm in AGES, just dropped back in this week.

i am curious too. and i don't want to 'academise' this but it's weird that in both this and blackface in korean media it's almost like there's this... uncritical adoption of white american media tropes, is this an actual thing in korean media/culture and could neo-imperialism be partly responsible...

Date: 2013-01-18 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
This. So much. In this case I feel like they are adopting what they think is simply a fashion statement that has been popularized. Doesn't mean it's okay, but this feels like ignorance more than racism like black face.

Date: 2013-01-18 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palebluedot09.livejournal.com
well i didn't go in to that post so i didn't know. thank you for pointing it out. he was wrong to do that.

Date: 2013-01-18 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
np, I didn't even know about that either post until [livejournal.com profile] swhyeon1991 just linked it.

Date: 2013-01-18 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
Um...... he is wearing freaking sailor costume. Seems more like the guy next to him who actually did what you are talking about is the one you should be hating on.

Someone just put paint on him.

Date: 2013-01-18 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
I'm not even going to bother with your racist ass.

Date: 2013-01-18 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
Really? I must be racist against myself then! ha! ha!

All I'm saying is that you should look closely before you say he's dressed in a NA costume. When he's not.

Date: 2013-01-18 08:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-18 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jasmineakaiumi.livejournal.com
ia, the other guy is the problem. HSC is clearly wearing sailor themed underwear and a matching neck bandana thing.

Date: 2013-01-18 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
I want someone to upload this and Lee Jun Ki please. D: Healing Camp is such a great show!

Date: 2013-01-18 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com
+ jun ki

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