[identity profile] goshipgurl.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
A reader sent in a tip of a Pann post that might be able to turn the tables in this whole T-ara fiasco. It hasn't blown up yet (and I'm not entirely sure if it will), but here it is anyway.

The OP shares two instances of Hwayoung swearing and generally showing bad behavior to support T-ara/CCM's claims of Hwayoung being a negative influence to the group.

The first is a YouTube video of Boram giving a short interview on a Japanese TV show. Hwayoung, who is off camera, can be heard saying, "아, 시발 (Ah, fu*k*)," despite cameras rolling.

Eunjung then rushes to her and quietly whispers "Hwayoung" to hopefully stop her but Hwayoung continues to swear, saying, "아 존나 웃겨 (That's fu*king hilarious)."


The second part shows caps of Hwayoung and Hyoyoung playfully wearing at each other on their Cyworld mini-homepages in 2009. I'm not sure if the tone will be passed through in my translation, but just know that it doesn't sound like anything serious at all, more like a playful conversation you have between your friends while making fun of each other, etc.

xx

Hyo: Lee Yoona, did you just make fun of our house?.. ㅡㅡ Hul.. Just say you don't like our house, who do you think you are ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Lee Yoona: What what? What'd I say, you bi*tch? What, what, what?

Hyo: Screw off..

Hwa: You guys are fu*king cute ㅋㅋ Whose bi*ch are you? ㅋㅋㅋ

Hyo: My bi*ch, your bi*ch, mom's bi*ch, dad's bi*ch

Lee Yoona: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


xx

Soyoung: Man, I normally don't copy pictures but I can't help it after seeing the last picture ㅋㅋ

Hyo: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Lee Yoona: Idiots ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Hwa: agh, delete it immediately you fu*ker

Minsun: Look at her swearing explosives here, but why am I thinking that's so cute..

Hyo: What's so cute, you fu*ker

Hwa: I told you to delete it, you bi*ch

Hwa: What even is that picture ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Hyo: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ If you look closely, you look like a mole


1. [+37, -16] I'm actually confused now after reading this... I don't know if she was saying (those swears) to Boram or not but the cameras were still rolling.. Now I'm wondering if she really was an outcast... Ah, I don't know.. I was against T-ara, but became confused after Hwayoung's tweets, and now I'm more confused after seeing this...

2. [+33, -12] (TN: the reply adds more swears that Hwayoung said in thie video, but to my ears, I only heard the two originally translated above) 00:00 (after Boram says 'nae') Hwayoung: son of a bi*ch 00:05 Hwayoung: so dirty 00:07 Hwayoung: crazy 00:009 (Eunjung goes over to stop Hwayoung) 00:13 Hwayoung: Ah, that's fu*king hilarious 00:16 Eunjung whispers Hwayoung's name

3. [+33, -20] Really... I'm feeling sorry about hating on T-ara now... T-ara, find strength


Aside from the best replies, there are a number of comments claiming Queens and the post to have used hacks to fabricate views/votes because as of 1:13 a.m. in Korea, it had over 6k+ views and 330 replies, which is out of the norm (since most people on the board are asleep).

Others are saying that this doesn't excuse T-ara from their other scandals like Jiyeon's webcam and Hyomin's sex parties in the past.

Whatever the case, the post isn't widely read yet and is just a discussion amongst few so time will tell whether this impacts public opinion or not.


sources: netizenbuzz, nate
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Date: 2012-09-17 08:26 pm (UTC)
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no pierre escargot?? :(

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From: [identity profile] hugtimes.livejournal.com
big fucking deal, i bet tons of idols swear.

Date: 2012-09-17 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onlylexy.livejournal.com
Exactly I don't see how this changes anything.

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Date: 2012-09-17 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
It doesn't justify bullying though... or am I missing something?

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Date: 2012-09-17 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilsatin.livejournal.com
I don't have a problem with her swearing b/c who doesn't but it's extremely rude of her to do it on camera while Boram is being interviewed and to laugh and swear even louder after she was asked to stop!

This isn't even the least of her problems though, she's done worse and it's only a matter of time before it catches up to her

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Date: 2012-09-17 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbrella-smile.livejournal.com
"Hyomin's sex parties" wait what

No seriously, someone care to explain?
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Date: 2012-09-17 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cultic.livejournal.com
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2012/07/t-aras-hyomin-found-to-have-past-as.html

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From: [identity profile] erbalurbal.livejournal.com
They worked hard to find this evidence.

Date: 2012-09-17 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellodee16.livejournal.com
the CEO of CCM is still a douchebag tho.

Date: 2012-09-17 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chanqsun.livejournal.com
idols can't curse now??? and those 'fucks' obvs. weren't directed to boram.

Date: 2012-09-17 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlsday.livejournal.com
but idols also have an image to uphold? and to do so while someone is recording a video set to be released for fans is disrespectful on so many counts.

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and omona jumped down my throat when i suspected her. there was no way this situation was so black and white. i just knew she was shady...

Date: 2012-09-17 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
Aren't we ALL shady then?

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the first thing isn't even that big of a deal, idols have done worse

the second thing is hilarious tbh

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Is that it, an off camera swear. Keep trying.

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ugh so damn perfect!

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Can we talk about how frail my Queen Boram looks? I'm seriously worried and scared. Netizens need to lay off already!

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Date: 2012-09-17 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miyozari.livejournal.com
Someone call the police, a teenage girl dared to swear,
Oh and to all T-ara stans/Hwayoung haters,
nevertheless Hyomin's acts, Ahreum's racist statment and Jiyeon's acts are much worse and T-ara can't rap
without Hwayoung, in before you say Ahreum's rap is much better and talented 111!!!!! Go and check out the MR videos.
Edited Date: 2012-09-17 09:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-17 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilsatin.livejournal.com
They're all interchangeable honestly... Areum is better starting out than Hwayoung was two years ago tho

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Date: 2012-09-17 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rylee900.livejournal.com
The point of this is that she wasn't an outcast, not that she was awful and deserved to be thrown out of T-ara. T-ara <3 all of them, Hwayoung included

Date: 2012-09-17 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sungmin.livejournal.com
she wasn't an outcast bc eunjung told her to quit cursing?

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Date: 2012-09-17 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebluemonk.livejournal.com
GOOD! SHES MAD. SHES GOT A RIGHT TO BE MAD

HWAYOUNG MY QUEEN YOU DO YOU BOO BOO CUZ IMMA DO ME DO DO!

Date: 2012-09-17 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mangomuffins.livejournal.com
putting the scandal aside, it was bad enough that she was swearing on camera while boram was doing an interview, but to have your member tell you to stop and swear even louder? that's pretty rude. if omona didn't sympathize with her so much rn i doubt the reaction would be as forgiving.

Date: 2012-09-17 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rylee900.livejournal.com
Maybe she didn't actually know the first time. The second time... Yeah idk about that. Idg why it had to be all or nothing with some people though. You can like Hwayoung and T-ara, there doesn't have to be a bad side and a good side jfc. Real life does not work that way.
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Date: 2012-09-17 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasmine2009.livejournal.com
Only here for the comments. ^^ This is gonna be fun.

Date: 2012-09-17 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faramis.livejournal.com
It was very rude for her to swear while an interview was being conducted in her general vicinity, especially loud enough for it to be picked up on camera. That being said, I really don't think this changes all that much?

Especially the conversation with her sister and friend. I really don't think that's serious at all? I don't see how people could take that seriously, when it's obvious they're all joking around and having fun with it.

Date: 2012-09-17 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
Swearing = evil.
Bullying = doesn't matter.

Seriously?

Date: 2012-09-17 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faramis.livejournal.com
A lot of people are using this to further the argument that there was no bullying at all, and that Hwayoung was kicked out of T-ara simply because she was rude.

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Date: 2012-09-17 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-erotomanic.livejournal.com
lol at the timestamps at some of the replies in their cyworld--2 to 3 years delayed.

Date: 2012-09-17 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
Also the translation of this:
Hwa: You guys are fu*king cute ㅋㅋ Whose bi*ch are you? ㅋㅋㅋ

Hyo: My bi*ch, your bi*ch, mom's bi*ch, dad's bi*ch



Is way stupid. Hwa: She is saying who's baby are you?
Hyo: Your baby, your baby, mom's baby, dad's baby.

새끼 = baby, not bitch.
It's only son/daughter of a bitch when it's 개새끼

That's not even really cursing, except for 개새끼. It's just playing around.. Elementary school kids do this

Date: 2012-09-17 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faramis.livejournal.com
I think I love you. Thank you for this. ♥

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