They be hating Jaechul be rollin'

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

Tumblr, and the rest of the kpop related internet for that matter, is in frenzy over a picture recently posted of JYJ's Jaejoong and Super Junior's Heechul together in a car for a joyride. The origin of the photo is still unknown, however it's rumored that Heechul posted it to his Twitter account before he private/deactivated said account around his birthday. Whether that's true or not, no one knows. As for if the photo is real? That's actually pretty easy to answer with the use of some nerdy information. If you want the short answer, instead of the explanation, more than likely the photo IS real. As for when it was posted, who it was posted by, or how it was snatched, no clue.


Both camps are in shock and disbelief that Jaechul have been spotted together, let alone in the same car looking as chummy as ever. And many people are freaking out wondering if it's real or a photomanipulation, while others are flat out saying it's fake and that it shouldn't be spread around/spoken about. Cassie and ELF are not happy campers, which is often the case in situations like these. After all, it's some unspoken rule that a burger stands between these two men having a close friendship, let alone more serious things like the lawsuit that's spanned three years and supposedly divided SME employees and JYJ. That's besides the point, however.

The point itself is this; using a technique developed by Neal Krawets, it's possible in this day and age to break a photograph down to see behind what the naked eye is looking at; the noise of the photo. When you take a photograph and adjust it to view the 'noise' in the photo, you're given an image that looks like a bunch of strange dots and/or large fractals. This noise is what's used to spot any inconsistancies such as photoshopping or copy and pasting; this site gives a pretty in depth explanation about such. Basically if a photo is touched up, there's visible inconsistencies that one can spot. If the photo has NOT been touched up, than all the different outlines and shadings match up rather well.

In the case of Jaechul's selca, it would appear that it is more likely to be REAL than false, which one can view by checking out THIS comparison. There's also another reference HERE, with larger fractals for those of us who are as blind as bats. When looking at the outline of the two bodies, as well as the seats between them, there pretty much identical; the same can be said for the bulk of fractals in Heechul's hat and Jae's head. And as well as that, the both of them have the same level of white noise in their ELA, meaning they're actually together in the photograph rather than being copied and pasted one atop the other.

Both references seem to make it rather clear that there's no cut and paste done here, or any other hinkiness. This also lends to prove that while a lot of people screamed, 'HAX!!!!!!!!111!!!' over their following of one another on Twitter in months prior, it's pretty likely that was real as well. It would seem that these two Flower Boys have stood the test of burger espionage, and remain friends whether or not the fandoms can handle it. I say kudos to them, and it's nice to see that lines haven't been drawn in the sand between current SME employees and former-ish ones. It's also kind of epic to imagine the two and what trouble they might wreck on Seoul together.

Sauce(s): 韩网 (original poster of the photo), Destinyhae @ Sup3runior.com for reposting the photo, and my nerdy nerdy self with the use of Neal's talents, Fotoforensic's awesome web engine, and 29a.c's helpful tool.

Yes I am that nerdy, and that determined to prove Jaechul don't hate each other because of a cheap burger centuries ago, or their alleged pretty boy statuses.

Comments

[superjesster.livejournal.com]

oh my god

[pepper.livejournal.com]

After all, it's some unspoken rule that a burger stands between these two men having a close friendship.

LMAO I love you for this post. I wonder if Heechul ever got over that burger incident...

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

Why thank you, I'm happy to serve in defense to psycho crazy stans who think the world has ended cause the two decided to chillax.

I think he got over it like eight years ago, tbh. Dude's got better things to worry about, but they're always questioned about it.

[jcdhwg.livejournal.com]

Jaejoong only follows like 5 people, and before Heechul deleted his account Jaejoong followed him of out the 5/6 people he follows.. So pretty sure this is real, + I bet they go to ghey clubs together =)

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

He did follow him...and if Eunhyuk can hang out with JYJ you know Heechul wouldn't be deterred

[akillarian.livejournal.com]

I still remember the episode where Jae and Chun guest stars on 8 v.s. 1? or something like that.

[asnindie.livejournal.com]

Wouldn't Heechul get in trouble or something.

They look really cute, but tone down the brightness.

[hisjulliet.livejournal.com]

what's with the story about the burger again? I can't remember.

[asnindie.livejournal.com]

I'm remembering a story of someone asking for a bite of Heechul's burger and him throwing a major fit but not sure if it was Jae.

[allthingsgood.livejournal.com]

Does Heechul EVER do work in the army. Like, I know he's been assigned to desk service, but really, I've seen him so much on so many celebrities' Twitters and it just seems really ridiculous and disrespectful for the people who are actively serving their duties.

[831panda831.livejournal.com]

Its not like everyone wants to go to the army willingly too tho

[831panda831.livejournal.com]

I find it funny how this is a big deal.

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

As soon as I saw all the shit on twitter about, 'TAKE IT DOWN IT'S NOT REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' I felt the need to retaliate for justice.

[whysojaelous.livejournal.com]

People think this picture's photoshopped? Let me guess, hardcore JYJ stans?

"however it's rumored that Heechul posted it to his Twitter account before he private/deactivated said account around his birthday."

I thought some saessang hacked into Heechul's kakaotalk and uploaded for the rest of the world to see hence why no one really knows where it came from.

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

Probably what happened

[laeryn.livejournal.com]

I don't remember the story of the burguer, lol, but yay for this being real. My babies ♥

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

You're quite welcome. :D/ They pose an epic friendship right there.

[djlancerock.livejournal.com]

if anyone is actually mad about this they need better things to do with their time lol

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

You'd be shocked how many people flipped out on twitter, including admins of fansites in Korea who were saying to stop posting it because it may not be real like the world would end if it was a manip, or not.

[benihime99.livejournal.com]

XD "couple" and "debut" tag

[pepper.livejournal.com]

I would stan the hell out of them if they ever debuted as a duo ngl.

[oldwillow-brook.livejournal.com]

After all, it's some unspoken rule that a burger stands between these two men having a close friendship

lolllll, I always imagined the ~burger~ being a metaphor for the friendship between Yunho.

let alone more serious things like the lawsuit that's spanned three years and supposedly divided SME employees and JYJ.

idk about that. Junsu and Hyukjae are still idiots together. ♥ And Eeteuk/Hyukjae played quite a bit of JYJ during Kiss the Radio. So I don't think it's quite as deep of a problem with ALL of the SME employees and JYJ.

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

Yeah, there's a lot of interaction between Junsu and Hyukjae, but that's kind of a given considering their friendship spans back before SME. There's not much mention from a lot of the other SME artists about JYJ anymore, other than SJ. It's good to see any of it, honestly, and I was as happy about Hyukjae's comments as this. I refuse to pick sides when it comes to the whole mess.

[ari-meh.livejournal.com]

It would seem that these two Flower Boys have stood the test of burger espionage

OMG CRYING HAHAHAHAHA :'D

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

My work here is done. :D

[lynei.livejournal.com]

Jaejoong x HyungJoong >>>>>>>all your faves
I never liked Heechul but I dont care if he is friend with Jaejoong or not
I read Jaejoong still is friend with Jessica too.
he is mature man.

[-ochre.livejournal.com]

this is a fantastic post ilu OP

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

Ilu2 and XOXO.

[blu-eyezz.livejournal.com]

I really do hope this is real as the 'evidence' goes ♥

Just hoping that theres no rivalry/communication between HoMin & JYJ as its being lead to believe...

[dellusions.livejournal.com]

"What trouble they might wreck on Seoul together ""


I'd sell my soul for front row seats to that xDDD

[scubajr.livejournal.com]

+1

[hugtimes.livejournal.com]

eww, get jaejoong as far away from heechul as possible please.

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

D: But the epicness that the two of them encompass between their witty fashionable intellectual selves is earth shattering.

[rosetta16.livejournal.com]

I think is real but is kind of old at the same time cause disnt heechul vut his hair for the military service ?? And gis hair most be kept short right?So yeah real but ild wish really doesnt matter cause JaeChul r friends since forever

[scubajr.livejournal.com]

No, Heechul was allowed to let his hair grow again. He even dyed it to a darkish brown.

[scubajr.livejournal.com]

This post is glorious.
I was like the rest of the K-pop world when I saw the picture on Tumblr. I kinda freaked out. I always thought it was real because that IS how they both look currently and I wouldn't be surprised if Heechul was hanging with Jaejoong because they were always close but I didn't believe it entirely because the power of photoshop is frightening.
And as much as I was curious as to whether this is was truly a real or fake, I never thought anyone would go as far as photo forensics.

You've impressed me once again K-pop fans.

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

I felt the need to get down to the bottom of it before Twitter/Tumblr/forums exploded into a mass fanwar.

[oppa-did-meanit.livejournal.com]

Did OP do all this work? That's an awful lot of dedication!

But I'm glad I actually read this because learning about burgergate has made me love Heechul even more.

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

Yes, OP did, because OP is that sad and pathetic, and when I read the admin of any fansite telling people to not spread something around in case it is fake when it's something that isn't a big deal or a problem at all, I lol and feel the distinct reaction to shut them up because it's ridiculous.

[forevrseptember.livejournal.com]

OP, you are awesome.

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

As are you, my dear reader. ♥

[kyungsan.livejournal.com]

This is some impressive evidence, lol. Good job, op.

[khuntflap.livejournal.com]

Why thank you, it was my pleasure. :D

[xoxoknlove.livejournal.com]

This is so beautiful~ *o*