another (potentially) reliable source about t-tanic!

[ryrymini.livejournal.com]

**DISCLAIMER** — All information in this post has been personally received by me through an unnamed source who lives in Seoul & works for CCM. I can not personally verify this information, but I can personally vouch for the authenticity of my source. If you don’t like what you’re seeing, or you feel your fav has been put in a bad light….. just don’t shoot the messenger (aka don’t send me all kinds of hate mail). Please & Thank You!


1) There was no bullying, really. Just Isolation. Which is still mean-spirited. But oh well. They tried to get along, it didn’t work. Look, you have to think about it this way. Here are 6 people who have worked really hard to get to the level of fame they achieved by the time Hwayoung joined the group. They had already experienced member shakeup from the first lineup of T-ara and they were finally comfortable with the 6 member group chemistry they had. Then KKS throws in this new girl — a rapper whos taking lines away from two people who already rap — & then on top of that this same new member needs a lot of training because she’s definitely not on the same level as the original 6 & she misses her twin like terribly & complains about not being put in the same group as her twin. Of course people aren’t going to be happy! So what do most catty young women do? They get bitchy & ignore the girl.



2) Jiyeon did NOT slap Hwayoung. But she almost did. Hyomin had to hold her back & there were many J vs Hwa catfights. The Troublemaking Trio (my favs Jiyeon, Eunjung, & Hyomin) were at the center of all the member complaints against Hwayoung. Boram & Qri mostly stayed out as to not choose sides. But at the end of the day, their loyalty resided with their original members.

3) Hwayoung WAS being arrogant & uncooperative. But simply, because she was tired of the drama & tired of being a T-ara member altogether. And the girl really wanted to be with her twin. I feel really bad for Hwayoung honestly. She was groomed to debut with her sister in 5dolls, but KKS thought she had more potential so he put her with T-ara. A group who did NOT want her in the first place, & honestly felt she didn’t have the same potential for their group. She was basically isolated, depressed (even though there is no such thing in S. Korea right?) and she acted out. Her final straw was when she threatened to act crazy in public against the T-ara staff & refused to perform at the show.

4) It was either Jiyeon & Eunjung or Hwayoung. Hwayoung’s last display of “ingratitude” on the tour bus so to speak really set the troublemaking trio off! & that was the ultimatum presented to KKS & CCM by the diva trio… so they had to make the best business decision possible. They couldn’t lose their 2 biggest moneymakers or let the group go to hell like that with Hwayoung in it, so it was Bye Bye Hwayoung!


5) Ahreum & Dani were added to the group as punishment to some of the group members. You remember how Soyeon, Jiyeon, & Eunjung all publicly spoke out against their long, overworked hours in 2011? Welllll, KKS didn’t like that so how to get back at 3 of 4 of his most popular members? Add 2 new breezys to the nest to shake things up. Their addition was a statement to the originals that you CAN be replaced & that they better get in line. Also, their addition was only supposed to be temporary (for a year), but I guess things have definitely changed now that Hwayoung is officially gone.

6) The original group members are definitely cordial with the newest two members though. Why? Because KKS is watching them like a hawk & does not want a repeat fiasco of what having to get rid of Hwayoung cost T-ara in money, prestige, & reputation. Plus, they happen to respect Ahreum so far because she works really hard, has actual talent, and is more of a complement to the group than even they expected. And Dani is like a little sister (who they can manipulate develop into being a great t-ara member) to the original members.

7) Dani doesn’t even speak Korean really at all that well, & shes debuting later because she’s (USA age – 12) & has a TON of training & Korean to learn to complete before she’s ready for debut time.

8) KKS didn’t think that firing Hwayoung was gonna be that big of a deal, as she was one of the least popular members anyways and a replacement at that. Boy was he surprised.

9) And as far as 5dolls/Co-ed goes? Well thats about as DOA as DOA could get. Hyoyoung was quietly let go of her contract earlier along with her twin Hwayoung & the real bullying controversy belongs to Chanmi & crew — who unceremoniously tormented poor SooMi until she had to practically beg to leave. thats a whole nother story

10) Hwayoung’s future as a solo artist? Very slim, indeed. and now that she’s been labeled as difficult & emotional in the industry (+ nobody really cares anymore –> T-ara lives on) her biggest chance is to be marketed in a duo with her twin, Hyoyoung (who’s got weak vocals & stage presence) for one of the lesser known agencies. Good luck twins!

11) T-ara’s future is still strong, yet they are a bit shaken by this ordeal. But expect NO more controversies in the near near future for this group. CCM is locked up tighter than San Quentin to make sure that Dani’s debut & T-ara’s fall comeback runs smoothly & is bigger than ever. The Troublemaker Trio (Eun, Jiy, Hyo) are contented & happy now that she’s gone plus they have the support of most industry professionals, idols, & the company itself. T-ara FIGHTING!

American K-Pop Fans

i believe every word tbh.
qri & boram remain flawless

Comments

[a-perfect-shade.livejournal.com]

Wait, her twin was kicked out too?? When did that happen?

And as sad as it is I don't see a future in entertainment for either of them

[shanny-w.livejournal.com]

lol is this considered a blind item? also op your image broke.

[hisjulliet.livejournal.com]

Isolation is a form of bullying. Actually, bullying is mostly about isolating a victim where he/she cannot receive the help they need in order for the bullying to stop.

[bolingi-aii.livejournal.com]

people seem to not understand this and thats why they keep giving T-ara the pass and try to justify this whole ordeal.

[ryousan26.livejournal.com]

I'm tired of it all. I don't care much what happens next. e_e

[a-perfect-shade.livejournal.com]

isolation is actually one of the cruelest forms of bullying. you pretend someone doesn't even exist; it's extremely traumatic and difficult to deal with.

[bolingi-aii.livejournal.com]

I don't understand why people don't get this. Bullying isn't just stealing some's lunch money and slapping them up.

[g-odalisque13.livejournal.com]

hope the part about 5dolls (chanmi being a bully) isn't true. chanmi is the only person under ccm i follow tbh.

[itendtoflail.livejournal.com]

I didn't even know Soomi left the group, I hadn't heard any 5dolls/ Co-Ed news since they did that Lovey Dovey remix...

http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/the-real-reason-behind-5dolls-soomi-departure.8188/

[devilsatin.livejournal.com]

i thought i would care about hwayoung's departure more than i actually do. i liked t-ara before she joined and i still like them just as much! i need sexy love ASAP. and dani is too cute! ♥

[45s.livejournal.com]

no disrespect to the OP (as they're just reposting this) but most of this is a summary of stuff we already knew or speculated.

ok. i guess american kpop fans needs the google adsense money.

[somuchtrouble.livejournal.com]

Need Sexy Love now.

[bolingi-aii.livejournal.com]

whoever wrote this article is really trying it >.> what an enabling bunch of bullshit.

[hinadori.livejournal.com]

Wish Davichi is not with them so I can just ignore this flop company.

[kayleen-san.livejournal.com]

MTE

[lilykt7.livejournal.com]

lmao shit was craaaay. so many omanans like lost their shit. i guess bullying is a big trigger for people here. personally i always felt there was a lot of layers to the story. at the end of the day it was a group against one and that sucks. But i never thought t-ara was a bunch of crazy mean girls. it was just personality clashes+stress of the industry. And before u jump down my throat can u honestly tell me there wasnt a time when you and your group of friends were all mad at one person? It could have happened the other way too, you could have been the friend that everyone got mad at. that doesn't mean that the larger group were awful people. t-ara's was just blown up cause of their situation but shit happens.

the trouble trio may have been petty and mean spirited and unprofessional, but at the end of the day i don't think this episode warrants everything they've worked for to be taken away. They're performers not saints. for people who admired them this might suck ass and make you think differently about them, it probably should. but for me i understand that they're young girls and hopefully they learned from this. Theres still time for them and hwayoung to grow and just be better people.

ccm is still a shady ass company tho and the idea of members being "replaceable" is disgusting and dehumanizing.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_redneckbitchx/]

I mean I still like their music and I'll probably continue to watch their performances, but I don't think I can ever watch them on variety shows again.

[andshehopes.livejournal.com]

this shit is so tired

[swhyeon1991.livejournal.com]

The pic is disturbing tbh.

[benihime99.livejournal.com]

IA

[aoiblue-kun.livejournal.com]

That's...probably as credible as this one LOL:
"I have some scoop from the T-Ara controversy.
I've just gotten back from Korea (stayed 2 weeks at my eonnie's place). She had her friends over and the T-Ara issue was on TV so they started gossiping, naturally.
According to one of my eonnie's friends, There were some half-truths to what KKS said in his official statement.
from what she heard, the fight was more about money initially then it got personal. How my eonnie's friend found out, she claimed she went clubbing and met one of the drunk staff members that worked for CCM who was there when it happened.

Basically, they had a big argument while in the waiting room when HY walked out on them. They were trying to get her to be part of the concert like they'll have her sit and stuff, but HY didn't want any of it because she is injured and didn't want to just sit her ass of for the whole concert. She wanted it moved to a different time if possible so they can all be there performing and all with their dance choreo (I kind of agree, they're not the best singers), but the problem is that the place has already been booked with a pretty big deposit and all the other things were already paid for, which will be taken out of everyone's pocket/pay check if they moved it to a new time. But then HY argued that they dealt with money problems before (covered for each other) specially when Eunjung lost their money (50 grand) when they were overseas, but the other members said it was different because the money before was stolen while this time, it can still be fixed if she cooperated. The other members felt she was being a big baby about it and gave her a piece of their mind and HY took off crying because she felt no one understood her and made it seem like she had control over her injury. Then T-Ara performed without her, HY made a scene with the manager. (I assume this was probably what KKS was referring to HY having a princess disease.)

Then the tweet war started, when the T-Ara members left tweet about her lacking in determination, which was in reference to what they fought over in the waiting room.

Then it escalated to what we've seen unfold.

Also, the staff did complain a little about HY, supposedly, she just wanted to rest since she was injured so it created some problems for them since she is only the one who can decently rap in the group. Some of the staff were pretty mean to HY too though. some of them kept on comparing her to Eunjung in an "in your face" kind of way, because when she got injured she rolled along like a trooper while HY was complaining about the pain a lot of times, but can you blame her? Everyone's threshold for pain is different.

And lastly, because the whole issue escalated to T-Ara hate and a big loss of revenue, KKS made HY personally responsible for the whole thing and terminated her contract. KKS made everyone in the company to keep quiet about anything because he believes he can fix it.

Also, the issue is not as big as some reports would like you to believe. It's the reason why stations at the moment are still not editing out T-Ara related stuff in their variety/entertainment shows."

Either way, this info from an "inside source" can never be verified.

[lee-chikin.livejournal.com]

KKS made everyone in the company to keep quiet about anything because he believes he can fix it

Such wishful thinking. At least he hasn't released other contradicting declarations in the last days.

[montauks.livejournal.com]

none of this changes the fact the kks needs to fucking step down from his ceo position because jfc....

[mighty-romance.livejournal.com]

I agree so fucking much.

[chidori-73.livejournal.com]

"So what do most catty young women do? They get bitchy & ignore the girl."

NO shut up. I think we've been on this before ughhh like if other boybands didn't have their own bullying issued aswell.

Also it seems most people defending T-ara have never been bullied ever. You really have no idea how it feels like. The mental traces it leaves. Sometimes it takes years or even decades to get over. People take their lives off because bullying. CHILDREN commit suicide because bullying. So no, I don't give a fuck about bullies, no matter how -*hardworking*- they are. The fact that Hwayoung was fired while her victimaries are kept intact is just heartbreaking. Yea I know KKS is guilty too and a dipshit to boot, but no.

[shunluv.livejournal.com]

THIS...

[rinn1e.livejournal.com]

"unnamed source who lives in Seoul & works for CCM"


KKS? LOL

[bolingi-aii.livejournal.com]

This sounds exactly like KKS.Its the same story line >.>

[sweetdary.livejournal.com]

so who will be the next that KKS will kick out of T-ara. Just wait and see.

[fancifury.livejournal.com]

bless this reasonable post

[jeit91.livejournal.com]

well holy shit.

[bubblyshades.livejournal.com]

So what do most catty young women do? They get bitchy & ignore the girl.

So basically, girls will be girls and unnis didn't mean it?

1. Stupid stereotype that does not excuse the girls isolating one of their own members.

2. Still no. As other people have said, isolation IS a form of bullying. To ignore someone's presence and act like he/she doesn't exist, that is incredibly damaging to the person's self-worth. And isolating the target from other sources of support further exacerbates the mental and emotional effects. Maybe the girls didn't know that isolation could hurt so badly, but they had to know isolating someone in and of itself was a wrong and hurtful thing to do. Hwayoung didn't ask to be put in T-Ara, and her rapping has improved, so she's put in effort to become better.

[http://users.livejournal.com/reminisce__/]

I'm so glad that you and others are speaking up about this - people who have been groomed to be well liked and popular and never being left alone for attention are often those who are unemphatic enough to realize just how devastating it is to IGNORE ANOTHER PERSON'S EXISTENCE. That is the definition of bullying, what the hell.

This is childish shit that has driven people to suicide, and it speaks greatly on the behalf of the company, T-ara, and all of those defenders of anyone who supports causing the harm and suffering of someone else, simply because it stirred up shit that they do not want to acknowledge in themselves. Shaking my fucking head at this.

[taylorniw.livejournal.com]

lol I think number 5 is obvious, since I can't think of any other reason to add them

[ayumikoshiro.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the truth. KKS effed up by not putting her in 5Dolls like he was going to. T-Ara really didn't need another rapper (even if she turned out to be better than the ones their. Heck for the first few stuff she didn't even have lines. It's only a big deal because of the bullying issue she was nowhere near the fav in T-Ara.

Hopefully Hwayoung and her sis go on happily with their lives. Actually her chances of a career just jumped because of this whole drama is she just "graduated" from T-Ara nobody would care but as a kicked out wronged member her and her sister might actually get some play as a duo.

Even though it's not physical when I heard S&M (yeah yeah the evil ones) talk about seeing wangta in their schools I was so sad. It's the worst thing you can do to somebody. Especially to someone who's already sad. Most of the time psychological torture is way worse than physical.

[ideservestars.livejournal.com]

I still feel bad for Hwayoung and her sister. They should've learned to deal with the cards they were given instead of acting the way they did. Hwayoung was defiantly one of the more talented members of t-ara, as someone who's kept up with them since debut, it's kind of ridiculous to act like she was taking something away from the group. Her rapping was awesome and added greatly to them.

[bolingi-aii.livejournal.com]

"They should've learned to deal with the cards they were given instead of acting the way they did."

This sounds like victim blaming, and how exactly did they act?