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A family man in his 30s was beaten to death in front of his 6-year-old son by teenagers while trying to discipline one of them. Outraged citizens have called for an environment to be created as soon as possible whereby spoiled teenagers are punished accordingly.

According to West Suwon Police Station in Gyeonggi Province, on the 1st of August, the police booked the 16-year-old high school student Kim and 20-year-old Shin on charges of killing Mr. Kim (39).

The incident happened on the 21st of last month at 12:10 am when Mr. Kim scolded one of the teenagers by telling him ‘not to spit on the floor.’

Younger Kim (16) became outraged right after he was scolded by Mr. Kim, and started to beat him up. As the fight went on for too long, Shin (20), who was passing by, intervened and tried to alleviated the tension between two Kims. However, Shin’s attempt now led the fight to move between Mr. Kim and himself.


Younger Kim who watched this happen in turn tried to reduce the tension between Shin and Mr. Kim, but Mr. Kim ended up punching younger Kim in the face. Younger Kim became outraged again and beat Mr. Kim by kicking him. Mr. Kim fell backwards and hit his head on the asphalt ground.

Police officers were dispatched to the site who then called 119 emergency services to rush Mr. Kim to the local university hospital, but he was later diagnosed with a cerebral haemorrhage. Though treated with 8 hours of surgery, Mr. Kim ended up dying after 6 days.

Younger Kim who ran away when Mr. Kim fell, turned himself in as the police set out to locate his whereabouts. He made a statement saying that ‘I spat on the floor and he suddenly came to me and started to discipline me. So I became all violent.’

This tragedy happened when Mr. Kim went into a convenience store while enjoying a walk with his wife and his 6-year-old son. His wife went to get her purse when the incident happened. A young son had to watch his father being beaten up to death while crying. Police requested a biopsy by the National Forensic Service to inquire into the cause of death.

It is said that Mr. Kim’s wife requested the police for favourable arrangements since younger Kim is still young and his actions were accidental.



Comments from Naver:

dhfl****:

This is all because of vacations and computer games… The Ministry of Family Affairs and Education ought to reduce the vacation period to 10 days in order to eliminate the 5-day a week school rule and not let anyone under the age of 19 into PC Bangs. [A few years back the government decided to make vacations longer instead of allowing children to go to school for 6 (sometimes even 7) days a week]


infi****:

I have no idea what teachers are doing anymore. The comments these kids leave on the Internet show they know no proper grammar or spelling… If they are behind on intellectual development, the least they could have is moral education and they fail on that front as well… I really fear what this country will look like in 10 to 20 years.[The Korean school curriculum includes ‘Moral Education,’ a class that all children must take]


naru****:

Jong-un, this is the moment! Fire that Taepo-dong missile, just do it! Let’s first take a hit and then think about what humanity really means. We need to see some blood before we see any resolution.


sili****:

What is this last line about.. is that really his wife? Those punks ought to be caught


us05****:

Even the police avoid those young punks out of fear.. There is no answer, just let them be.


cree****:

Capital punishment will set this country straight… We need to toughen up criminal code. Yoo Young-chul, Oh Won-chun, they need to go first. Then we can straighten up this country. We need to teach them that crime won’t get you far, and that punishment is severe even when they are young bastards.


us05****:

When you look at high school students, they are just as bad as adults. Ignoring them is the only answer.


ktk6****:

And no one here ever spat on the street?


caji****:

Rest in peace. You are the father of your son. In front of your son there are students smoking on the street. Is it right to just ignore that? Of course you cannot hit them since that could result in criminal charges, what is this.. Should one just report it to the police? Or teach your child to ignore it and avoid the situation if possible? Is this the state of law and order in this country? Is this how you want to raise your child?


미투데이 pegasus754:

Nearby my place there is a PC Bang and junior-high and high school students smoke like chimney and spit like camels there and I curse them off everytime I see them. They avoid me probably just because I too am young… But when I get older they could beat me to death… We urgently need education for young people. Sending them off to university will not solve anything, make them into proper human beings first –


crim****:

An innocent man died doing what police should be doing. Police ought to be doing their jobs properly. This really pisses me off on top of the weather. [There is a heatwave in Korea right now]


alto****:

This woman is really out of it. Your husband is beaten to death and you are already asking for clemency on their behalf, are you fucking nuts?


shiv****:

Woman, how much are you pocketing from this?? What is this clemency about? How are you going to manage to live from now on??? You are honestly thinking about favourable arrangements?? Those thugs will live behind bars for a while… And you are trying to settle it out of court?? Police anyone??


mapp****:

Favourable arrangements…? Regardless of his age, he is the one who destroyed a family… Isn’t asking for favourable arrangement just too much?


rang****:

It makes me speechless. A teenager who kills a man who preached at him…and then you have the victim’s wife asking for favourable arrangements? Can’t understand the two of them.


wjs8****:

Wrong deeds must be redressed. Letting him off the hook just because he is young won’t help him. I think a teenager like him will cause more serious crimes as he grows up


vbki****:

I can’t believe the victim’s 6-year-old son saw his father being beaten up to death… That is so sad. What’s wrong with the victim’s wife who wants favourable arrangements? Does she care about others just as she cares about her dead husband? Whose future should she care about? Will the 6-year-old boy be the one who will seek revenge?


yunh****:

This makes me speechless…


xlwl****:

I think that the victim thought the kid would stop spitting as he warned him, but he kept on talking back, which made the man irritated and eventually led him punch that teenager. And now he’s dead. Nobody can predict what’s gonna happen tomorrow.


jy78****:

That teenager should be beaten up by another teenager in front of his son when he gets old enough and that’s when he’ll realize that he did something terribly wrong.


sert****:

‘The country of courteous people in the East’ [i.e. Korea] has now become history. Someone who offers help will just get punished and beaten up by teenagers


a260****:

OMG I think the world is coming to an end~~~ I think parents in this country should not only make their children “STUDY” but also teach them how to behave properly.


elli****:

What the hell is wrong with Mrs. Kim? Isn’t her husband dead? So mysterious… ~~~




Source: SoulNewspaper via KoreaBang

note: this is a stock photo, not a picture of the actual incident.
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Date: 2012-08-06 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
omfg my jaw dropped when i read the end of the title
senseless violence and it's even more saddening to find out all of this happened in front of his baby :(

Date: 2012-08-06 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjspice.livejournal.com
OMG WTF???

Date: 2012-08-06 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yunde.livejournal.com
that's just awful :c

Date: 2012-08-06 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
Horrible horrible horrible.
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Date: 2012-08-06 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katzsong.livejournal.com
Yes, that 6 y.o and he had to witness that horrible tragedy :( I hope he got help and won't turn into a violent person in the future :3
Edited Date: 2012-08-06 06:25 am (UTC)

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Date: 2012-08-06 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cagallisakura.livejournal.com
How do you accidentally beat someone...? If she means the death was accidental, well the death wouldn't have happened if there hadn't been a fight.

I want to say younger Kim should have a lesser sentence than Shin since he at least showed remorse by turning himself in and then I remember it was Kim's kick that sent the man to his death :/

Date: 2012-08-06 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldwillow-brook.livejournal.com
I think what she means is that the intent behind the beating wasn't murder but was the outcome regardless? I'm not sure how laws work but I think that's considered accidental homicide, or like murder but without intent?

I'm not sure. :(

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Date: 2012-08-06 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vagueclarity.livejournal.com
i'm praying that the son will be able to find peace of mind
</3 the poor kid ): ): ):

Date: 2012-08-06 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphirehyeran.livejournal.com
The cmments from naver are making me "WTF" even more than the whole accident.
FIRST: people are blaming the wife b/c she doesn't want it to go apeshit and maybe loose all her time and money on lawyers.
SECOND: The amount of people regarding this only as the Police's fault.

REALLY?

The ones who educated that little bastard were police officers? Why can't koreans admit when they failed? That kid is obviously a frustrated spoiled brat who got his anger by beating the first person he saw.

And the entire country should be blamed, because they tend to forget about real education and only fucus on studies.

Date: 2012-08-06 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphirehyeran.livejournal.com
"Woman, how much are you pocketing from this?"

rude

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Date: 2012-08-06 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stellar-13.livejournal.com
all I can think about is that little boy having to grow up without a father and live with witnessing what happened.

Date: 2012-08-06 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-happy-twat.livejournal.com
what the hell. :|
and that poor kid had to watch it.

Date: 2012-08-06 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwaiirosesilent.livejournal.com
this is disgusting. Though I do want to know what happened for Shin to turn on the older man.

Either way, both crimes need to be dealt with fairly and appropriately.

Date: 2012-08-06 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falling-empress.livejournal.com
sounds like bullshit to me tbh you don't just step in to stop a fight and then join in

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Date: 2012-08-06 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yolleh.livejournal.com
Do ASBOs even exist any more?
I remember the chavs used to boast about how many they had as if they were badges or something.

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Date: 2012-08-06 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scubajr.livejournal.com
That is absolutely horrible.
The poor child who had to watch that happen. I hope that he gets the mental help he needs now to help him get through this. Before it's too late and affects him negatively as a grown-up. Knowing SK though, that's not likely to happen :/
I'm afraid to read the naver comments.

Date: 2012-08-06 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scubajr.livejournal.com
"This woman is really out of it. Your husband is beaten to death and you are already asking for clemency on their behalf, are you fucking nuts?"

OH LORD. I just picked a random one and I already regret reading it.

Date: 2012-08-06 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angela-derp-otp.livejournal.com
This is awful and the comments from naver make me facepalm multiple times tbh.

R.I.P and I hope the poor little kid gets help to get through such a traumatizing situation.

Date: 2012-08-06 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadistic-dance.livejournal.com
I really feel bad for the kid who had to watch that.

And no one here ever spat on the street?
I was thinking this as well. My grandmother once told me she told some guy in a store she could see his underwear and told him to correct it and I told her to never under any circumstances do that ever again.

Date: 2012-08-06 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisinia.livejournal.com
i could see it happening because his kid was there. like, "daddy you said it's rude to spit on the street but that boy is doing it! why can't I?

Date: 2012-08-06 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
Could not get past the first sentence

Date: 2012-08-06 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falling-empress.livejournal.com
what the hell did i just read

he yelled at me for spitting so i punched him, then this guy stepped in to stop us and they started punching each other, then i tried to stop them but he punched me so we both started beating him to death.

that sounds plausible...

Date: 2012-08-06 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
bitches high as fuck punching each other over spit.

But seriously the entire thing is ridiculous and I'm not sure what to say. The only ones I really feel terrible for is the kid who had to watch and the guy's wife.

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Date: 2012-08-06 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xdark-symmetryx.livejournal.com
The entire incident is unfortunate and I really feel for the family, especially the child that had to witness it
But what pissed me off was the Naver comments. The sheer ignorance, assumptions towards the wife and half-baked answers for the reason of the event happening, seriously makes me wonder about the South Korean attitude towards teenage education and discipline.

Date: 2012-08-06 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annieraincloud.livejournal.com
It seems more like a tragedy than anything else. It's sad that he fell and hit his head and died in front of his little child

Date: 2012-08-06 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuethemusicc.livejournal.com
the articles you post OP are always the ones that make me lose faith in the world ;-;

it's sad how things like this can happen.

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Date: 2012-08-06 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yolleh.livejournal.com
I have no idea what teachers are doing anymore

I'm sorry, WHAT?
Teachers are the second line of defence but they should not be held responsible for cleaning up the mess bad parenting created. Furthermore, sometimes, you can be the best damn parent you could ever be and try to instil the right values in your child only for them to still turn around and decide to be a delinquent.
That's what scares the life out of me when I think about having children.

Just all those comments are disgusting. A child lost his father in front of his very own eyes, that is a tragedy. We should be praying for him instead of chatting rubbish and judging the mother.

Date: 2012-08-06 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martha-sal.livejournal.com
IA

The parents are the first ones who should be teaching their children and showing them what is right and what is wrong, even though sometimes good parenting doesn't help violent children but they can't possibly blame this on the teachers.

Date: 2012-08-06 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engraved-16.livejournal.com
this is just horrible!

Date: 2012-08-06 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokidoki88.livejournal.com
I think there are many interesting points brought up in koreabang commentaries:

"It seems like a stupid fight between some stupid guys and someone accidentally got killed. I really don’t think the guys were trying to kill each other."

"so let me get this straight…the father found the teenager’s spitting not befitting behavior of an upstanding citizen and decided to scold him. meanwhile, he’s out past midnight with his 6-year old child. he may have had good reason for this, but it still seems hypocritical of him to be scolding others for behavior he finds wrong."

"I see old guys spitting on the street all of the time. In fact, I’ve had them spit at my feet as I’ve walked by. They’re the biggest offenders. So this young-old man decided he would show his son what it means to be a real father by insulting this high school student in public, and then engaging in a fight with him. He sounds like a 39 year old child who can’t control his own rage, and a poor example of a father. It doesn’t sound like a straightforward case to me. Manslaughter perhaps, and in the case of the second boy who came to break-up the fight, he might even plead self-defense."

Date: 2012-08-06 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] embroideredkiss.livejournal.com
agreed, not saying it's not an awful thing, but it's not as clear cut as some of the comments are making out.

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Date: 2012-08-06 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kanot.livejournal.com
:(





Poor boy. :(

Date: 2012-08-06 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rylee900.livejournal.com
"This is all because of vacations and computer games… The Ministry of Family Affairs and Education ought to reduce the vacation period to 10 days in order to eliminate the 5-day a week school rule"

Yeah, that'll help. Jesus.
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