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The fallout from Hwayoung‘s split with T-ara has been nothing short of cataclysmic, and resulted in an all-out witch hunt against the current T-ara members. The group has lost endorsement deals, been forced to cancel concerts, fan cafes have shut down, petitions and groups to have T-ara disbanded and to uncover the truth behind the scandal have attracted hundreds of thousands of people, netizens have called for the members to be removed from their current television shows, a music program director has said he will no longer contact T-ara, and much more.

In less than a week, T-ara has gone from being one of the most loved groups in K-Pop to the most reviled and hated. But whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty, and why are the members of T-ara receiving all the vitriol instead of their controversial CEO, Kim Kwang Soo?


The bulk of the anti-T-ara bandwagoning has stemmed from various reports of bullying — virtually all of which have turned out to be either misconstrued or completely false. The situation has gotten so bad that anonymous posts on web forums have been picked up by the media and reported as fact, and everybody has been so desperate for answers that they’re not stopping to separate the fiction from the fact.

A photo of Hyomin accidentally bumping Hwayoung as she raised her arm was transformed by netizens into “Hyomin pokes Hwayoung in the eye!“. A video of Hwayoung opening her mouth for Eunjung to put a rice cake in it suddenly became an attempt at choking by force-feeding, but what netizens failed to mention was that it was a Japanese game show where you had to put sweets into someone’s mouth and then try make a sound with your mouth full. As if things couldn’t get any more far-fetched, a photo of Hwayoung chatting with INFINITE and SISTAR at the ‘Idol Olympics’ broadcast was somehow turned into Hwayoung having to sit with them because T-ara wouldn’t speak to her.

There was never any speculation that Hwayoung had been bullied before last week, yet now all it takes is a photo of her hanging with Bora to serve as evidence that she’s been ostracized by her own group. Does this selca of Eunjung and KARA’s Gyuri mean that they too, are victims of bullying? Anybody can take a photo and fabricate a story around it.

There was even a shocking report that Jiyeon slapped Hwayoung across the face — a report that literally stemmed from an anonymous forum post from somebody claiming to be a member of T-ara’s dance team, Yama & Hot Chicks. When the leader of the dance team came forward to shoot down the false claims, it was too late. The article was already a most-read story across the web, and the damage was done.

It should take more than some out-of-context photos, anonymous forum posts, and unsubstantiated stories to convince the world that T-ara is a pack of evil bullies who tormented and assaulted their bandmate. This is 2012, but right now people are acting like it’s the 1600s and we’re all at the Salem witch trials.

The only thing that seems somewhat accurate in all of this drama is that there was an incident on last week’s Music Bank where Hwayoung was upset for an as-yet-unknown reason, and refused to go on stage for T-ara’s scheduled performance. This caused the other members to have to cover for her at the last minute, and resulted in a mistake being made during the performance. Some T-ara members were then unprofessional and tweeted** their disappointment over Hwayoung’s actions, which led to them being labelled as bullies. This information about Music Bank does not confirm that T-ara are bullies, nor does it confirm that Hwayoung is troublesome. All it confirms is that Hwayoung refused to perform on Music Bank –which may or may not have been for a perfectly valid reason– and that the others members disagreed with that decision.

**correction: Tweets were made two days prior after the Budokon concert, in which Hwayoung only participated minimally due to injury.

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Does anybody remember what happened to the Sugababes back in 2009? Keisha Buchanan was fired from the group amidst claims she was a bully, but fans and the public still took her side and blamed member Amelle Berrabah for the entire thing. People adopted a lynch mob mentality, similar to the one we are currently seeing against T-ara, and eventually their attacks against Amelle were so vicious that she had a nervous breakdown and had to spend three-weeks recovering in a treatment facility. Reports that Keisha had been a bully were never confirmed, the fans eventually calmed down and got over it, and life went on as usual. If only everyone had behaved more rationally and not jumped to conclusions, then Amelle’s unfortunate breakdown could have been avoided all together. (I should know, because I was one of the many people who sent abusive tweets to Amelle at the time!)

While everybody is busy blaming T-ara for Hwayoung’s departure, few seem to be looking at Kim Kwang Soo, who may very well be more responsible for this entire ordeal than anybody else involved.

In my April article about T-ara’s then-announced member changes, I expressed my concern over the way Kim Kwang Soo was managing the group. I said that he was creating an unhealthy environment for the group by encouraging them to compete against one another and by threatening to fire or replace any members who didn’t comply. Now that he’s made good on his threats, it’s T-ara who are being blamed.

In the same article, I also took a look at how severely Kim Kwang Soo had been overworking T-ara. In a nutshell, the group hadn’t had a vacation since their debut in 2009 and hadn’t received a day off in one year, members were performing on top of serious injuries, Jiyeon collapsed on stage from exhaustion, and at times the group’s work load was so heavy that they had 12 schedules in one day.

Now picture the kind of stress that would bring on the members of T-ara, and then remember that Hwayoung was not part of the original T-ara lineup. She was added to the group in 2010. So Hwayoung was added to a group that was already successful, a group that had been together for years (if you include their training days), a group that was being severely overworked in a high-stress environment, and a group that was encouraged by their CEO to compete against one another.

If any of the unsubstantiated bullying claims are true, or even if Hwayoung was simply just an ‘outcast’ in T-ara, it’s not hard to see why.

If you need any more proof that Kim Kwang Soo isn’t the greatest CEO on the planet, then look no further than Nam Gyuri. The idol was a member former CCM girl group SeeYa, before she left back in 2009 for financial reasons and to pursue an acting career. What followed was a messy and very public war of words in which Kim Kwang Soo revealed scandalous information about Gyuri in the press and claimed that she uncooperative and missed schedules, the remaining SeeYa members held a press conference and painted Gyuri out to be a selfish diva, and Gyuri called Kim Kwang Soo “the devil”, denied his allegations against her and implied that it was part of a smear campaign, and claimed her former bandmates were cold towards her and spoke behind her back.

There was probably a little truth to both sides of that story, but at the end of the day, people are going to disagree and have conflicts. It’s a normal part of life, and it’s happened to everybody.

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When you’re looking at a Korean girl group, such as T-ara, a CEO is like the teacher or the parent of the group. The CEO has a responsibility to create a safe and healthy environment for the group, both at home in the dorm and at work, and to ensure that any petty issues are taken care of in a proper way so the dynamic of the group can remain positive and professional. Kim Kwang Soo appears to have done the exact opposite of that, and if there is any true disharmony in T-ara, it is he who should be held responsible before both Hwayoung and T-ara.

As of now, the only real bullies in this whole situation are the netizens. Take one look at the comments section in a T-ara post on AllKPop right now, and you’ll either see a hypocritical flood of cruel and mean-spirited attacks directed at the group and its individual members, or just people laughing at the group’s current predicament. T-ara is being torn down for something that nobody even knows if they actually did or not. And if they did do it, then why did they do it? Not everything in life is black and white.

If it turns out that T-ara truly is just a bunch of evil bullying witches that tried to choke Hwayoung to death on rice cakes, poke her eyes out with their fingers, and gang up to destroy her umbrella, then fine — bash ‘em, hate ‘em, demand their disbandment, and more. But until then, everybody needs to put their torches and pitchforks down, and wait for a little something called the truth to come out.



Source: TheProphetBlog.net

It's a very long read but it makes very good points. Tyfyt! xoxo. ♥
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Date: 2012-08-02 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sungmin.livejournal.com
good points counted: 0

Date: 2012-08-02 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fancifury.livejournal.com
this desperate comment

why are u so eager to hate
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Date: 2012-08-02 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginevragirl.livejournal.com
The writer is a T-ARA stan. He's said before they're his favorite group.

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Date: 2012-08-02 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
I don't know you but I've been mentioning KKS as being the major problem the entire time, cause let's face it, dude's a fucking major dick and willing to throw you under a bus for money.

Date: 2012-08-02 01:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kapuway.livejournal.com
"While everybody is busy blaming T-ara for Hwayoung’s departure, few seem to be looking at Kim Kwang Soo"
Well, that can't POSSIBLY be true. I highly doubt there's people out there not realizing that guy's d-bag.

Date: 2012-08-02 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dilettantka.livejournal.com
(I should know, because I was one of the many people who sent abusive tweets to Amelle at the time!)

dead

Time for a parade of random bloggers' opinions?
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Date: 2012-08-02 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xists-09.livejournal.com
Nice to know more people have noticed the irony of it all, I've said something about this a few days ago. Standing against the so called 'bullies' by practically enforcing cyber-bullying. How awesome *eyeroll*.

Date: 2012-08-02 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quarryman28.livejournal.com
That's what I like the most about that OP-ED.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simneesee.livejournal.com
Perfect article is perfect.
Thanks for posting, OP

Date: 2012-08-02 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] choco112.livejournal.com
perfectception.Image
Image

Date: 2012-08-02 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorkiilove.livejournal.com
but what netizens failed to mention was that it was a Japanese game show where you had to put sweets into someone’s mouth and then try make a sound with your mouth full.


LMAO, what is this bullshit. I watched that entire 10 minute video clip and that was NOT the point of the game. Eunjung was on the losing team for the wii and I guess she was picked out of the other 3 girls on her team for the batsu game. She picked feeding someone on the other team from the batsu game box (notice how the card didn't say WHICH member to feed and or/HOW to feed her). Then she proceed to stuff the rice cake in hwayoung's mouth.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deerlike.livejournal.com
Yeah. I raised an eyebrow at that too. While the article has a point about not mounting a witch hunt, it basically dismisses any possibility of bullying despite some compelling examples to the contrary.

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Date: 2012-08-02 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorkiilove.livejournal.com
and who the hell is this prophetblog and why is their nugu ass opinion even being posted on her. they should really do research on their articles b4 they even write them tbh

Date: 2012-08-02 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilsatin.livejournal.com
tbh i do think a lot of ppl are being rly extra w/taking things out of context and twisting it to fit their version of the truth. i don't doubt there was some bullying going on and a few pieces of evidence are pretty telling, but a majority of it is bs

Date: 2012-08-02 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fancifury.livejournal.com
yup

there definitely was a lot of conflict due to the environment kks created but the rumors etc are ridiculous
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Date: 2012-08-02 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginevragirl.livejournal.com
The writer needs to check his facts before publishing.

"The only thing that seems somewhat accurate in all of this drama is that there was an incident on last week’s Music Bank where Hwayoung was upset for an as-yet-unknown reason, and refused to go on stage for T-ara’s scheduled performance. This caused the other members to have to cover for her at the last minute, and resulted in a mistake being made during the performance. Some T-ara members were then unprofessional and tweeted** their disappointment over Hwayoung’s actions, which led to them being labelled as bullies."

The other girls tweeted after the Japanese concerts, before the "incident" on the 27th at Music Bank. If you're going try and take down haters, at least get your facts straight before making yourself look like an idiot.

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Date: 2012-08-02 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iiluminate.livejournal.com
the writer is a t-ara stan.


lol

Date: 2012-08-02 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deeinanutshell.livejournal.com
"(I should know, because I was one of the many people who sent abusive tweets to Amelle at the time!)"

why would u do that doe

Date: 2012-08-02 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bestworsthings.livejournal.com
A major case of "do as I say, not as I do"?

Article writer sent hate mail to one girl girl group they weren't invested in, yet now its their stan group they suddenly see it as wrong...?

I like T-ara although I never followed them super closely, but if Hwa was bullied, the girls participating need to apologize. If they had tried to work out their issues, they could have banded together and forced KKS to give them a break. In an era post-DB5K, idols know the company needs them to be happy. KKS is a terrible CEO but the girls still participated in cruel actions without considering their options.

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Date: 2012-08-02 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bgurl1210.livejournal.com
This whole scandal has really put the T-ara members in a different light for me. I kind of noticed the bullying when Hwayoung joined the group but I thought it was them being playful and ignore it. But when I look back at all those variety shows they were on I realize now how serious it was and it pisses me off. Hwayoung didn't deserve to be treated this way. And tbh I kind of don't feel bad for some of the negative attention the members and the company are getting. KKS and CCM are just spew bs to save their asses cause they know they are in the wrong.

Also I totally side-eyeing the author of this article.

Date: 2012-08-02 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soft-daisy.livejournal.com
i agree. i was so surprised how hwayoung somehow always managed to keep the smile on her face, even when she was left out in many instances (like the high-fives thing or the thing where they purposely left her out from trying out a snack on a japanese variety show)

Date: 2012-08-02 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicooyo.livejournal.com
If any of the unsubstantiated bullying claims are true, or even if Hwayoung was simply just an ‘outcast’ in T-ara, it’s not hard to see why.

Did I read that right or...? Are they trying to say that just because T-ara was overworked, tired, stressed out, and encouraged to compete against each other that it's okay for them to bully her?

Date: 2012-08-02 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasmine2009.livejournal.com
No. They didn't say it was right, just that those thing added together help make the end result in this case. Wrong or right.

(I'm not agreeing with the statement. Just trying to help.)

Date: 2012-08-02 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falling-empress.livejournal.com
lol who is this nugu american group he's talking about? oh wait, i don't remember because i don't know who they are.

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Date: 2012-08-02 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
General question: where is the line drawn between

1)calling someone out on what they have done wrong

and

2)bullying someone because of what they have done wrong?

I would like to think that (at the least) some people have just been disapproving of T-ara's behavior towards Hwayoung so far and NOT bullying them back through the internet. There are obvious extremes (like that one messed up post that I am not going to re-link because it is just...*shivers*), but I am not even talking about going that far. Just...where is the cutoff line? Several folks honestly do not know where that line is and recognize it when they see it.

Again, just a general question because I think it does need to be addressed.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-keiko.livejournal.com
calling someone out on what they've done wrong and that person acknowledging that wrong and attempting to make amends usually resolves an issue.

continuing to call that person out on what they've done wrong while they victim blame and use very public blackmailing tactics to ignore their part in the conflict =/= bullying.

there are definitely ppl who take things overboard (there always are) with death petitions and shit (read: park jae bom and 2PM) but NOTHING about the behavior of the members of t-ara and their company show even the least bit of remorse for what has happen here.

i have no sympathy.

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Date: 2012-08-02 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-keiko.livejournal.com
lol @ this entire article. SO MUCH falsehood while trying to debunk other apparent falsehood?

i can't.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fancifury.livejournal.com
agreed w/ pretty much most of the article. gifs and anonymous bs =/= fact.

really telling how people are so eager to do exactly what t-ara have (supposedly) done.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] beanii.livejournal.com
You would think if they were really good friends or ATLEAST had a little respect for each other, hwayoung would of stuck up for the rest of T-ara and said she wasn't being bullied.I don't know if people would believe it though, but at least it would settle the few who do.
But the fact that she's kept so quiet and all of her statements have been followed by comments from KKS makes me wonder. At this point I don't know whether it's bullying or whatever. I'm just confused.

Date: 2012-08-03 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrysakura16.livejournal.com
I do think Hwayoung views T-ara as co-workers not close friends.
And an idol also has to deal with the CEO, managers, hair stylists, etc so I'm guessing she also wants to get out of the company.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erbalurbal.livejournal.com
There will never be solid proof of her being bullied but there are certainly enough statements by the ceo himself, and others, to prove that she was mistreated by them. He basically admitted it more than once.

T-ara might be overworked and put in a bad environment but that doesn't excuse their behavior. We are all responsible for our own actions. If I had abusive parents, they wouldn't go to jail for my crimes. Using the comments on allkpop to represent everyone that has an opinion on this story is comical but the comments I have seen are mostly about the ceo being a dick. Obviously most people see that the CEO is a huge problem.

Sure, two wrongs don't make a right but there is nothing wrong with people standing up for Hwayoung. She has been put into a situation where she, and her parents, have to just shutup and take whatever Kwangsoo throws out there.


Date: 2012-08-02 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soft-daisy.livejournal.com
+1

i agree with everything you've said here.

bullying and kks being an ass, while possibly related, are separate things that they should take individual responsibility for. a harsh and cut-throat environment doesn't justify or excuse bullying. and i was just going to say, allkpop would have extreme comments that are inappropriate, but at least a quarter to half the comments support t-ara based on 2 articles that i've read over there.

a lot of this is just her word, his word, but i think the fact that so many of us are on hwayoung's side in this situation (non-fans, fans, pd's and so on) means that the evidence is compelling enough for us to believe that there was serious bullying going on (serious enough for it to even appear on camera for the public to see) even without solid proof.

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Date: 2012-08-02 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlsday.livejournal.com
people bashing the other girls and wishing for disbandment are bullies themselves. grow up, people. you don't know the whole story.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faramis.livejournal.com
This article is almost as bad as KKS' terrible PR and speeches.

Date: 2012-08-02 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fancifury.livejournal.com
as a homestuck fan your opinions are automatically worthless

please stop breathing

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"Does anybody remember what happened to the Sugababes back in 2009?"

no and who?

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