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With the K-pop business thriving and companies inevitably looking to capitalize on its popularity, new groups are being churned out at greater and greater rates. As a result, I’ve noticed that the initial reactions to every announcement of a new group, even those from major companies, are met with increasing amounts of skepticism and disdain, probably because there seems to literally be a couple groups debuting every week.

As such, I didn’t really see it as a surprise when the media reported that a rash of group departures have been happening, nor was it shocking when quotes from insiders speculated that more are set to follow.

Music industry insiders took a closer look at the recent trend of idol members’ taking leave of their respective groups.

On May 24th, Dal Shabet‘s Viki confirmed her withdrawal from her group, while Dalmatian‘s Day Day also left the group, and back in April, EXID‘s Yuzi, Dami, and Haeryung also announced their withdrawal from their group. TAKEN (now renamed A-PRINCE) also announced the withdrawal of their members Seungyeol, Gunwoo, and Yoojun, earlier this week.

An anonymous music industry insider predicted that this trend is most likely to continue. ”There are currently a few idol group members who are considering leaving their groups,” the rep revealed.

Reasons for withdrawal include factors such as schooling, career changes, and solo careers. But, internal conflict with their agencies is said to be the deciding factor for the withdrawal of idol group members.

On the issue of conflicts with agencies, another music industry insider stated, “Members blame their agency if their debut isn’t a success, and eventually decide to withdraw the group. Even if their debut is a success, members leave if they think their agency isn’t supporting them enough.”

So you know how people are always complaining about the sheer volume of groups debuting, how they can’t keep track of them all, and that it’s getting tiresome? Well, people are seemingly already tired of it and so are the idols. Basically, the consequences of market flooding are starting to show, if they aren’t in effect already.

While many fans are already familiar with the big names that are making their comebacks this summer, they’ll still be surprised to hear that a whopping 100 teams are scheduled to promote at the same time this summer.

This puts a big strain on the music programs, as there are only so many slots that are free for the taking. Unfortunately, this also means that songs will be heavily cut down to accommodate as many artists on one show as possible.

One industry official expressed, “There are a lot more managers than usual at broadcast halls these days. They are all working for artists with considerable names so it’s a bloody field out there right now. There have been people saying that there will be over 100 teams promoting this summer.”


Despite the expanded market, the fact is that most of these groups will or already have flopped. While our modern attention culture, with Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, is undoubtedly flush with ways to draw attention, there are limits to how much the audience has to give. How many things can we possibly be devoted to? After all, there’s a limitation on time for even the most hardcore K-pop stans.

As such, the promises of fame and fortune aren’t going to come true for a majority of the new groups, and while that was always true to an extent, it’s clearly being exacerbated now due to the sheer amount of groups being debuted in recent years.




From 1996 to 2008, 98 groups debuted in K-pop. From 2009 to 2011, 116 K-pop groups stepped to the plate. Right now? Halfway through 2012, 62 more groups have already debuted, besting the yearly high for debuts that was set in 2011, which was 61. Needless to say, the pace is maddening and it’s hard to blame fans for being overwhelmed.

The reality is that oversaturation isn’t coming, it’s been here for a while now and it’s starting to rear its ugly head. Until a market correction comes, odds are that it’ll only get worse, and if the industry sources are to be believed, it’s already underway.



Source: by IATFB at Asian Junkie
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Date: 2012-07-14 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
WTF at that increase from 2010-now. To think only less than 10 groups actually manage not to be irrelevant by the end of the year.

Date: 2012-07-14 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gigabytexx.livejournal.com
And this is why so many of these companies are trying different methods... like I heard there will be Kpop Star Hunt 2 and looking for members from different countries. Korea cant handle it anymore, so maybe Japan/China/others will.

Date: 2012-07-14 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiroki-tenshi.livejournal.com
That is maddening. The rookie groups that will manage to stay relevant are the ones from the bigger companies (SM, JYP, YG), some middle companies (Cube, FNC, DSP) and a few little companies (Pledis, TS Entertainment, Starship).

Did I miss any? Meanwhile the really small are left squabbling.

Speaking of rookie groups, the ones from this year that I actually care about are NU'EST, EXO, BAP, and Hello Venus. Though Hello Venus somewhat disappeared off the face of the earth right after debut and came back with a repackaged, which was amusing.

And I really can't think of any other rookie group that has managed to keep a lasting impression on me....

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Date: 2012-07-14 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinadori.livejournal.com
Anyone who's taken an Econ 101 class can see this was coming.

Date: 2012-07-14 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kuri-chi.livejournal.com
I SECOND THIS. lol

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Date: 2012-07-14 06:47 pm (UTC)
krissasaur: (B1A4: Gongchan ▬▬▬ /wipes tears)
From: [personal profile] krissasaur
I have actually started to avoid new groups because I know they will just break up and leave me with wasted time. I think b1a4 is the only one i am devoted to because they have proved they are here to stay.

I kind of have faith in NU'EST too... but we will see.

I wish there was a bigger demand for Dalmatian and F.CUZ... And Boyfriend... T_T

Date: 2012-07-14 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginevragirl.livejournal.com
Thank god B1A4 has found success and they're with an excellent company. Idk what I would do if some of their members left... ;_____;

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Date: 2012-07-14 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anrixan.livejournal.com
This year has been absolutely insane with the amount of groups who have debuted... add them with the other groups who have comebacks and stuff? It's hard for them to even get a spot on Music Bank or Music Core... not to mention, what is Gayo Daejun going to be like? SO MANY GROUPS are popular now, and with the new ones as well???

It just seems like a rough year for new groups to debut. However, so many new groups have jumped to the the top of my bias lists, which is crazy. AJAX, BtoB, Nu'est, BAP, EXO, JJ Project... they're all talented.

It's just going to be rough for those newer groups... especially when you have groups like Super Junior who ARE so popular and have 7 minute long slots for their comebacks. :/ It's gonna be kind of interesting to see what happens...

Date: 2012-07-14 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyminstrel.livejournal.com
too many debuts i've literally lost any anticipation whenever they're coming up. last i have a slight peak of interest was for Block B but even then their hype died fast after that one controversy.

now i can't even try even if i wanted to, not even exo. maybe it's just me thats getting old and weary but i prefer using my lil ounce of stanning energy left on upholding my dbsk5/jyhominj support :/
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Date: 2012-07-14 07:09 pm (UTC)
krissasaur: (Brian Joo ▬▬▬ Talk to the hand.)
From: [personal profile] krissasaur
I feel you. I got semi-excited for b.a.p and nu'est, but my excitement was leagues under what it was for block b..... idk i think all my energy has been used up to the point where I don't even want to look at new bands.

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Date: 2012-07-14 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palebluedot09.livejournal.com
I think it's been pretty much proven that only a handful of rookie groups each year manage to stand out a bit.

Date: 2012-07-14 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginevragirl.livejournal.com
It's survival of the fittest tbh. Last year we had 4 rookie manage to make it out of the fray, though Dal Shabet is splintered now that Viki left...

Date: 2012-07-14 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miszmba.livejournal.com
Even I can't keep up any more and I used to be excited for new groups (during 2009 that is)

Date: 2012-07-14 07:10 pm (UTC)
krissasaur: (Big Bang: T.O.P ▬▬▬ Coffee?)
From: [personal profile] krissasaur
2009 was a GREAT year, but I remember thinking there were too many new groups popping up even back then.. IF I HAD ONLY KNOWN.

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Date: 2012-07-14 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itskimbitches.livejournal.com
kpop is like a giant bag of hershey chocolate pieces.
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Date: 2012-07-14 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
Well as soon as something becomes huge and popular, the only next logical step would be to over saturate it and run it to the fucking ground.

So really we all saw this coming.

Date: 2012-07-14 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figus204.livejournal.com
Well, although I feel bad for the people who have trained for years and really put their all into becoming an idol, just to fail and not even get noticed by the public - I can't say I'm surprised, it's as the articles says, there are too many groups for the public to care about them all.

As someone else pointed out - it's probably gonna be the artists from the bigger and/or more well know company's that I'll really have the chance to actually succeed, but as shown by B1A4 last year you can't really be sure - they're one of the lucky rookies of last year AND they're from a tiny and (from what I know) rather unknown company.

Although I have taken a liking to more groups than I thought I would this year - EXO and B.A.P most notably but also a casual interest in NU'EST, JJ project and Cross Gene.. I thin it'll be interesting to see who really makes it :P

Date: 2012-07-14 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palebluedot09.livejournal.com
b1a4 is from a total unknown. b1a4 is wm entertainment's only artist
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Date: 2012-07-14 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hushmydarling.livejournal.com
there's been so many debuts but the majority of them have been really good. it's unfortunate... makes sense why puretty was sent to debut in japan and stay there for a while.

i think what it's really going to come down to is who can stick it out and what companies can support their groups to last longer than a year. 2013 will hopefully be the comeback year for a lot of rookie groups, and hopefully there will be very few debuts in 2013 to compete with comeback rookies. dal shabet and girl's day were able to get over their debut slumps, hopefully groups like chocolat and chichi can too.

a lot of the boy groups though... :/ i don't have high hopes for them sticking around very long.

Date: 2012-07-14 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
This year has been much better quality wise but it's gonna get worse, we still have Pledis, FNC, YG, JYP, Cube and god knows who else debuting newer groups. It's gonna get crazy and inevitably most will fail or will see a drop in popularity.

Date: 2012-07-14 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-romance.livejournal.com
Infinite was the last group that managed to really impress me with their debut. None of these new groups have stood out to me except for BTOB, VIXX, and Spica. Other than that, I haven't really paid any attention to any of these nugus.
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Date: 2012-07-15 05:19 am (UTC)
krissasaur: (SMAP: Kimutaku ▬▬▬ Puffy Cheeks)
From: [personal profile] krissasaur
Oh I forgot about Spica! I haven't gotten ~in~ to them BUT THEIR ALBUM IS AMAZING. THOSE VOCALS. I really hope they succeed!

Date: 2012-07-14 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exo-cath.livejournal.com
It really is hard to keep up with all these new groups :/ Imagine having to keep up with 62 groups at the same time o.o

The rookie groups that I love (am a fan of) is EXO, NU'EST, BTOB, JJ Project and B1A4 (Even though that was last year). I like Hello Venus but not really stanning them :/ I am looking forward to FNC's new girl group though ^^

I feel sorry though for the members who leave because they work really hard to get there :/

Date: 2012-07-15 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aussiebaka.livejournal.com
Oh yes I am totally looking forward to FNC's lovely ladies.

At the same time I am so horrified of seeing on the news one day that they're getting involved with CN or FT guys though. Oh god no. (although they've been trainees and worked with them before anyway so I'unno, don't try to understand the wild jungle of fear that is my fangirl mind)

Date: 2012-07-14 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liferule91.livejournal.com
Is it me or has this year been heavy on the competition.
Nu'est, Exo, BAP, JJ project have all been great

and I'm loving crayon pop and hello venus.

Date: 2012-07-14 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xredada.livejournal.com
I love VIXX & Cross Gene. My precious nugu's~ Spica are still my favourite debut of the year tho.

Date: 2012-07-14 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
I think JJ Project is the only one I care from this year's rookie debuts. Anyhow, I'm pretty sure the amount of idol group debuts will plummet within two or three years when the reality sets in.

Date: 2012-07-14 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnyquest89.livejournal.com
Other than Spica n Ailee who else from 2012 made a impact. I'll omit exo cause they were set a years before debut.

each year got 2 top spots n maybe 2 runners up then rest usually fall to irrelevance or gain momentum another year or so with their improvements wonder who's gonna steal the last spots for 2012.

so far it's like this yea?

06- Bigbang n Beg
07- SNSD n WG
08- 2pm Davichi n Shinee
09- 2ne1 beast mblaq tara 4minute
10- missA sistar g.na san-e
11- Apink Dalshabet (Boyfriend b1a4) no clue bout them?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Date: 2012-07-15 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reelrecnizereel.livejournal.com
Hopefully by 2013 all the extra will be sifted out , although it is unfortunate for those who have trained for years on end!! I'm in for the ride !! Every time when you think you're done stanning a group another one pops in from left field leaving you dazed and confused. 2013 here we come!!
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Date: 2012-07-15 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideservestars.livejournal.com
welcome 2 the real world sk

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Date: 2012-07-15 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kanot.livejournal.com
Who is this? That V-line she has going on is crazy.

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Date: 2012-07-15 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genie17.livejournal.com
too much of anything is bad. I wonder what the industry insiders have in mind to solve this problem.

Date: 2012-07-15 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charisma2.livejournal.com
Exactly. I have a feeling them solving the problem is going to be shipping them over to Japan.

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Date: 2012-07-15 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cagallisakura.livejournal.com
I just listen to whatever new comes out, I do not have the time nor do I care enough to know more about the artists.
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