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The Beatles may have sung "all you need is love," but in South Korea a couple wanting to get married also needs cash, a lot of it - nearly $200,000, or more than four times the average annual income.

The sky-high costs stem from a combination of cultural traditions that mandate expensive pre-wedding gifts between families, such as mink coats and diamond rings, along with a decades-old custom that the groom must fork over money to provide a home.

The average cost for a wedding in 2011 rose about 270 per cent from 1999, while the inflation during the same period rose 45.5 per cent. Total costs far outstripped the average annual household income at around 48.3 million Korean won ($42,400), according to government data.


Thus, young couples seeking to unite in wedded bliss are forced to borrow from parents or take out loans. With candid discussions of money a cultural taboo in Korea, many are reluctant to speak about the high cost of exchanging vows.

"Korean society is very tightly knit, and people here are very concerned about how others view them," said Harris H. Kim, a sociology assistant professor at Ewha Womans University.

"The wedding works as a status symbol, like a marker of where you stand in the society," he added.

One 27-year-old woman working in the financial industry, who like many others asked to remain anonymous, said her parents paid nearly 90 per cent of her 140 million won ($122,900) wedding costs.

"We had to use our parents' money, which probably came from the sacrifice of their own retirement savings," she said.

A 30-year old kindergarten teacher who would only give her surname, Kim, said her husband, whose income is 40 million won, took out a loan for 45 million won in addition to financial aid from their parents for a wedding with 600 guests. The couple didn't know half the people, who were their parents' friends.

Gift-giving also takes a hefty chunk of the cash. Traditionally, the bride and groom's families have exchanged gifts - good silk for new clothes and simple jewelry - as a way of thanking the other family. But these days the silk has turned into fur or luxury handbags, while the jewelry has morphed into a full set of gems.

But the biggest part of the wedding budget comes from soaring housing prices, according to data from couple.net, a matchmaking company. The money spent by happy couples for housing last year was 2.5 times higher than in 2000, making up nearly 70 per cent of the total cost of a wedding.

"I've had many customers in the last five years who directly asked for a spouse who can at least afford to rent a house," said Sungmi Lee, a manager at couple.net.

Although most couples choose to spend the money, many are less than happy about it.

"None of that expensive jewelry is actually useful or beautiful, and you know you'll just regret using the money for that after you're actually married and need money for your married life," said Kisun Lee, a 29-year-old consultant. ($1 = 1138.6000 Korean won)

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Date: 2012-04-27 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loverboy.livejournal.com
I just can't comprehend spending money you don't have on a wedding.

No ceremony for me! Fuck that.

Date: 2012-04-27 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
This must be mainly restricted to the Middle Classes though. Expecting a working Class person to fork over 200k for a party is impossible. Get married in a nice, quaint place and save the rest for real life.

Also housing prices need to come down already, my generation is screwed tbh.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyukti.livejournal.com
houses are getting smaller, yet the prices are at an almost impossible rate.

the amount of money you would have to pay for a small box house ;___;

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyukti.livejournal.com
back in school, one of my literature texts was about a guy who spent every last penny he had (and more) for his wedding.
at 13, i thought it was ridiculous. still do now. you're better off saving that money to live comfortably AFTER the wedding.

but yes, being able to afford a house (at least rent) is a very important factor when deciding to get married.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lainmyownworld.livejournal.com
hmmm fuck that.

Am I crazy that I don't really care about my wedding to much?
(maybe I will when I ACTUALLY get married, but now I don't)

my moms wedding dress was 200 dollars. not 2000, 200.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shortysc22.livejournal.com
I care about wanting my wedding to be about celebrating with my family but I don't need something over the top.

And yeah my mom's wedding dress cost $300 in the 1980s.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izabera.livejournal.com
///The couple didn't know half the people, who were their parents' friends.///
To be fair this isn't a Korean thing, it's the same in many other cultures. Maybe it's time to break with tradition.

I'll never understand why people spend the equivalent of several years wages on what is basically just an elaborate party.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:31 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirhin.livejournal.com
I've heard about it and it still surprises me that their wedding ceremony is attended for the FOOD everyone gets - there's an AMAZING buffet spread (I went to a dinner meeting at one of these wedding halls and my gosh the food was mouthwatering). Guests are expected to bring at least (around) 50,000 won per person to give to the couple, but this is widely seen as a way to pay for the meal/ceremony/expenses that went into it all. The ceremony itself isn't more than 30 minutes and I've heard most people don't really pay attention. Like the kindergarten teacher said, most of the people invited are because of familial connections of some sort and even all your coworkers. It's really all for show; you invite people and their families that have invited you to a member of their family's wedding. It's a complete waste of money. Just have a small event and get it over with!

I remember having an older male friend tell me that he needed to save a lot of money. When I asked why, he told me that getting married was very expensive and he (and, in turn, his family - his parents own a fried chicken place) needed to provide the house on top of everything else. There's stress all around, but what got me was that he didn't have a girlfriend at the time. With how marriages work in Korea, I can see why he was thinking about it then. :/

Date: 2012-04-27 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supplanter.livejournal.com
Yeah, in the US at least if your wedding guests aren't basically covering the costs of your wedding via gifts, then someone's doing it wrong... other bits (furs and jewels???) I guess are a korean thing, though. The house at least they'll be able to live in....

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-chikin.livejournal.com
I guess the honeymoon will be two night of total luxury at the local sauna. Boiled eggs on top to be even more hardcore.
Poor guys.
Thanks so much for the intimate ceremony of my dreams with my mom's dress.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-rei.livejournal.com
I can see it. I went to 2 weddings so far, and I can imagine the expenses for it. It's all so impersonal though. You may not know a bunch of people at your own wedding -- it's kind of depressing. And no real reception (it's all buffets)... that's the worst part imho :P I wanna eat with my friends and get down on the dance floor.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hillando.livejournal.com
Considering most western/European cultures don't have this kind of tradition (exchange of gifts between families etc), I wonder how Korea handles interracial marriages....

Date: 2012-04-27 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muzegrey.livejournal.com
My American (female) friend got married to a Korean guy. They skipped on the gifts and the wedding hall and they had a nice church wedding. They had the buffet styled place too, but I think it wasn't as expensive as most. I went to a regular Korean wedding and it was kind of awkward honestly, and yeah. It was very informal and really impersonal.

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com
same here, but I think my parents will be more understanding, some people might think that I'm shameless though.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Let them think what they want. What's the point of getting such a huge debt, it's a vicious circle.

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Date: 2012-04-27 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsuyoi-hikari.livejournal.com
Never take a loan for a wedding. It's the dumbest decision ever. You could be divorced before you managed to pay all the debts.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-erotomanic.livejournal.com
the cost doesn't seem bad if you're getting your own house with it. and anyway, people get home loans all the time. so it's a good investment. the mink coats and jewelry, though, should just be a bonus and not a requirement.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
This is crazy! While getting married can be expensive in my country too (I know a couple who got a loan for their wedding and then divorced year after :O), but at least only one who gets gifts is the happy couple and you can choose what kind of wedding and how many guests you invite. For instance only closest relatives and friends were invited into my brother's wedding.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Omona it's okay, TOP owns his own house.

Okay minus the tacky joke, now I can see why people don't want to marry early. The amount of pressure on the individual must be immense.

Date: 2012-04-27 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
*cracks up* well all my fears are put to rest now. altho, his mom lives in that house, it might be a bit awkward tbh. lol

Date: 2012-04-27 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palebluedot09.livejournal.com
I just don't understand this and I just don't understand luxury weddings in the west either.

Maybe it's because I come from a family where everyone who has gotten married has gotten divorced at least once (well minus my grandparents and one cousin). And that is both sides of the family!

I know people who put a ton of money in to their wedding to impress people and yet their relationship is falling apart months in to their marriage. I think a lot of people put too much emphasis on the event and not the actual relationship.

If I ever get married it's going to be simple and personal. While a wedding is important, it's not that important to destroy your finances over.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aznmoonchild.livejournal.com
While this may be true for middle-upper class people, there was also a short 4-episode documentary recently about an old couple who basically offer free wedding services (including food, flowers, dress/tux rental - both modern and traditional Korean, etc.). The couple just have to pay for the wedding photography which is the old man's primary job. Granted, there aren't a lot of people who attend these weddings but still, there are options and kind people about too.
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Date: 2012-04-27 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marisu-dono.livejournal.com
Honestly though, considering some Asian culture, the parents might be the one who wanted to spend lavishly to avoid "shame."

My cousin got into an epic fight with her mom, because her mom wanted aa very lavish wedding and went crazy with the credit card and loans. Her dad was also due for retirement next year. Cousin threatened to walk out of the wedding when it got too much.

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Date: 2012-04-27 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
I really don't understand big flashy weddings. and arabs loooove big flashy weddings, they are a big deal in the culture. and usually everybody and their mother is invited. weddings in asian/middle eastern cultures can often be super expensive, huge, obnoxious and sooooo stressful. My sister said she would never have a wedding. I think I'd want a wedding but I would want it MY WAY and if i couldnt have it then fuck the wedding. esp since religion wise you dont need a big party at all. and in islam you don't need a priest/religious figure (we dont have those) either.

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Date: 2012-04-27 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldynchickie.livejournal.com
Why would you want to enter into your new life already in debt? Financial issues are one of the main reasons couples argue.
It's why I want to elope and use money saved up on a decent honey out of the U.S.

Date: 2012-04-27 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izabera.livejournal.com
My auntie eloped with her bf and they still received money from family and friends when they came back, which they used as a deposit to buy a house. You'd have to be crazy to get in debt over a wedding when there is zero job security.

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Date: 2012-04-27 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atelierlune.livejournal.com
If I had $200,000 to put on getting married, I'd buy a house instead, have the ceremony in the back on a nice day, and then have a potluck inside. It'd last longer.

Date: 2012-04-28 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angel-9-lives.livejournal.com
interesting o.O my cousin just married a south korean woman about a year ago...they both have really good jobs (from what I understand), but damn...o.o

Date: 2012-04-28 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k0dama.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, Korea's been psycho expensive aboue weddings since the early/mid 90s.
The crazier people have two or three weddings (one western style, one Korean style, maybe one in the congregation or at temple though kind of uncommon) and pay stupid crazy fees to rent spaces, buy gowns, wedding planners, etc etc.

Date: 2012-04-28 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ifuckingluvya.livejournal.com
Culture and traditions are important but there must be a limit. With the world changing, marriages being temporal and the economy being a wreck this is a foolish waste of money. Put that money for the house and have a nice intimate party with the people who actually cares about you goddamit!
Edited Date: 2012-04-28 02:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-28 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falling-empress.livejournal.com
lol my boyfriend's parents hate me. there will no exchanging of gifts here, or in korea...and no wedding, and i'm totally cool with that. all that money is going to a down payment.
Edited Date: 2012-04-28 02:30 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-28 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-noctem.livejournal.com
I hate going to weddings so much, and I get really judgmental and start asking myself why anyone in their right mind would pay $xx for something so unnecessary. And I don't understand why inviting close relatives and friends (of the couple) isn't good enough. Who cares if you piss someone off for not inviting them? You're not obliged to do so. You save money and get rid of an overly sensitive person in the process anyway.

And my cousin had about 1000 people at her wedding. I really want to know how someone could possibly know that many people.
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