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Is it legal for SMent to use images of people who are no longer in the company (JYJ & Han Geng especially) for the movie? 
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Date: 2012-04-24 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
damn was gonna post this.

lol omg sobbing at how tiny some of them are. baby hyo, yoona, seobb, and I think I saw yuri and sunny. omg I teared up watching soshi cry and also when jjong cried and onew hugged him and normally jjong crying just make me laugh.

this just makes me miss sm town more. you best be coming to nyc again.

also I see luhan and d.o. omg luhan singing in korean<333

Date: 2012-04-24 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drfaith101.livejournal.com
Maybe they have rights for the images?

Date: 2012-04-24 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shigeshoshii.livejournal.com
I think because of the fact they used JYJ/Hangeng pictures when they were in the company they still have the rights.

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Date: 2012-04-24 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
It's not legal unless they were given permission.
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Date: 2012-04-24 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pekojan.livejournal.com
It is legal because they have the copyrights, while the artists do not.

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Date: 2012-04-24 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chansai-unmyong.livejournal.com
seriously, i dont get it when some complains why the EX-SM artists where not even shown in the previous trailers and now when they are being shown they still question... XDDD anyways, SM being too safe, might have already think if this is indeed legit... besides, what material they used is under their label too... so yeah~

Date: 2012-04-24 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nissy-angel.livejournal.com
I will go to SS# oneday and hear Yesung sing live.

Date: 2012-04-24 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeries-amethyst.livejournal.com
So will I one day hopefully *__________*

Date: 2012-04-24 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelyxbeauty.livejournal.com
Sounds like a song you would hear at the credits of a Disney movie lol.

They could probably still use images of JYJ, cause technically JYJ are still with them as they haven't won yet (and they are using JYJ to advertise their academy), but I think it would be illegal to use images of Hangeng as he is no longer signed to SM.

Date: 2012-04-24 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msdaccxx.livejournal.com
They'd better shop JYJ and Geng out of all their cover art and MVs in that case ;)

Yes, they can use their images and those of any former SME artist, perfectly legally, if they own the copyright on the images or have licensed them from a third-party copyright holder and if they have the appropriate model release documentation in place when the foootage was filmed.

Date: 2012-04-24 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibohabu.livejournal.com
I still think Changmin's pet banana had been supposed to serve a higher—or lower—purpose before it was entirely unseen by Yunho and later eaten by its disgruntled owner.

Date: 2012-04-25 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-chikin.livejournal.com
I've never thought I'd choke on laughter, but you made it possible.

Date: 2012-04-24 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghina93.livejournal.com
Wait, jyj and hangeng was in the mv? Where?

Date: 2012-04-24 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 11th-dance.livejournal.com
yep i couldn't see them as well o_o

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Date: 2012-04-24 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tha-x.livejournal.com
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stop hugging people, it hurts D:

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Date: 2012-04-24 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4rang.livejournal.com
Awww :')

I loved this song! I should have the album stashed somewhere in my room, makes me want to go dig it out. I adore the current SMTOWN line-up, but this makes me a bit nostalgic for the first generation. :') The only people in this version who were also in 2002's original SMTOWN version are BoA and Kangta! Makes me feel old watching this MV when I remember watching the Christmas version ten years ago, omg. :((((((( And speaking of the original, it sounds like they didn't bother to re-record BoA's adlibs for the 2012 version and just used her adlibs from the original, lol. And yayy for the EXO boys being included!

I loved SMTOWN albums, I miss them. :( The last Christmas album didn't even have a joint song, which I always felt was the point of a company album. :P Maybe in the summer they can remake Summer Vacation, haha. Although it's going to be hard to squeeze everyone in unless they do what they did here and just give parts to the main singers of each group. Or give everyone 3 second parts.

Date: 2012-04-24 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shigeshoshii.livejournal.com
I miss joint songs too. What was the last one? Red Sun? There was 2009's Boom Boom with the SMTown Boys (excluding Kangta). :c

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Date: 2012-04-24 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msdaccxx.livejournal.com
Why wouldn't it be legal? I can't see the vid because I'm in work, but copyright on the images lies with the creator of the image - i.e. the film-maker or photographer - not with the subject of the image. I expect they will have signed blanket model releases when they were with the company, allowing the company and authorised third-parties to film them and use those images commercially. These won't be voided by the contract disputes. So, if they agreed to be filmed at the time, the owner of the copyright on the footage can do what they like with it.

It's like saying SM can no longer sell old DBSK CDs because JYJ are on the cover art or show SuJu vids that include Geng. Of course they can.

p.s. credentials - copyright and image licensing is part of my job.
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Date: 2012-04-24 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yunchunnified.livejournal.com
the homin moments in this vid are so delish~~~ and that hug from LSM is so adorbs~~ and so much changmin!!! I LIKE!
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Date: 2012-04-24 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycorrhizoid.livejournal.com
While I understand your frustration (none of the 5 SM girls I follow were included) . . . the only group that had more than one member singing was HoMin. I'm pretty sure that EXO had one each from M and K (correct me if I'm wrong), and then they included the first singer from all of the other active/popular groups.

In other words, they left out not only Zhou Mi, Wookie, and Kyuhyun, but Onew/Taemin, Seohyun/Jessica/Tiffany, Krystal, Zhang Liyin, Isak, Jay and Lina/Dana for vocal lines and solo artists, almost all of whom were featured in older group songs.

Granted, Zhou Mi wasn't featured even when Wookie and Kyu were, which really wasn't fair, but they also just have more artists than they know what to do with.

Date: 2012-04-24 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grapewhine.livejournal.com
tiny shinee give me so many feelings; they've come such a long way but they're remarkably unchanged. definite qties.

Date: 2012-04-24 06:17 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackie-cin.livejournal.com
yunho's voice is not a big thing in itself...but, god, the emotion he can pack behind each note is astounding!

i like how the song is overdone with adlibs (is that what they are called?)...and yay for exo...

Date: 2012-04-24 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghina93.livejournal.com
Yunho's voice, yess! I realize that he may not be the best singer among SM's vocal line but when he and changmin started singing, I almost teared up.

Date: 2012-04-24 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetemerald513.livejournal.com
OMG IT'S ALL SO BEAUTIFUL,

Image

Date: 2012-04-24 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilstay.livejournal.com
Urgh, this whole 'I AM' thing makes me legit emotional for SMTown...you mofos better come to London, and if Henmi aren't with you then I'm sending an official complaint. Zhou Mi can't be having visa problems ALL the goddamn time. :( That being said...D.O and Luhan! <3

Date: 2012-04-24 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sers-sers.livejournal.com
this.
I read in wikipedia (lol) their coming to o2 arena in december but idek idek
PRAYING TO GOD IT IS TRUE

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miwa201.livejournal.com
Is that Lee Sooman they're all hugging at the end? I loved the bit with Amber.

Date: 2012-04-25 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hereislalaland.livejournal.com
me too. Amber seems friendly with just about anyone.

Date: 2012-04-24 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrexa.livejournal.com
oh, ofc, i knew they would find a way to include exo in this 'i am' thing...

Date: 2012-04-24 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] setsuna16.livejournal.com
Classic Dear My Family ftw.

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keyllastic.livejournal.com
/demands jonghyun&luhan collab.

Date: 2012-04-24 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ballad.livejournal.com
OMGEE +1

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] funkaliciousss.livejournal.com
wow could this song be any more boring?

Date: 2012-04-24 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allthingsgood.livejournal.com
seriously and it's like five and a half minutes.........

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] setsuna16.livejournal.com
CRYING!!! My Baby BoA's last note... so beautiful. Brought tears to my eyes. Legit. Dare to dream that they'll sing Dear My Family as the finale song in Anaheim? Not that I don't LOVE Hope (HOT FAN FOR LIFE!), but of ALL the SM family songs, Dear My Family is my favorite. I remember the first time I watched the classic video and was just overwhelmed with how great it was.

As for the images of people who are no longer with the company, if you notice, they blocked out the faces of SOME people, but I'm going to presume that SM has the rights to use the images of people who WERE with the company as long as the images/footage come from the time that they were under SM's contract.

Side note: Loved the Isak and Jiyeon album cover in the background. Memories.

Date: 2012-04-24 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
It wouldn't be an SM track without 2 minutes of unnecessary ad-libs.

Jjong looks so young, so innocent, so pure *sob*

and Amber is way too cute for words.

Date: 2012-04-24 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
and OP where's the SHINee tag?
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Date: 2012-04-24 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] funkaliciousss.livejournal.com
slightly ot but this is beautiful omg!

Date: 2012-04-24 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
her voice is so fucking gorgeous

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