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The issue of sasaeng fans have been put back on the chopping block after the recent controversy surrounding JYJ. One manager who’s been working for famous idols for the past 10 years recently met up with reporters to disclose his own first hand experience dealing with sasaeng fans as a career.

He revealed, “I really don’t even want to imagine it. When I wake up and open the door, there’s urine and feces on the floor, as if they’re marking their territory… Mornings should be bright and fresh, so think about having to start your morning with urine and feces. You start your day with stress.

Sasaeng fans that follow us around in taxis can be considered the mild ones since some have even barged into the dorm and stolen all of the food. Even if we change our numbers, they somehow find it out… they’re on the level of 007.

When asked if he’s ever hit a sasaeng fan, he replied, “Honestly, I used to in the past. After the schedules are finished, hundreds of fans swarm in. One member even used to get pulled around by the hair. I had to block the members off before a bigger accident occurred. I had no choice but to use violence. Now, there are a lot of bystanders and fans that use cameras so you can’t do that anymore. I used to spray bug spray and even harsh swears, but it’s all of no use.

How do the fans that were assaulted feel? He explained, “Fans actually feel proud about it, as I’ve seen some say, ‘I was even hit by our oppa’s manager.’ I know it’s not all of them that think like this but they do exist. Sasaeng fans think that violence and verbal assault is a way of getting closer to their favorite idol. Thus, it’s no use using such methods on them.

He continued, “There are a lot of young sasaeng girls. When the idols come out after finishing their schedules, they’ll swarm in close and begin touching their private parts. They’re so young and yet they’re already sexually assaulting people. From the perspective of the idol member, it’s horrifying.

Once, I lectured the sasaeng fans that came to the dorm. Because they wouldn’t listen to a thing I said, I told them to bring their parents. They must’ve felt mad that I swore at them because they brought their parents back and framed me for being some drunk that assaulted an innocent student. Of course, in the eyes of the parents, they take the side of their daughters. I was reported to the police and put in a predicament where the victim actually became the attacker.

On the controversy currently surrounding JYJ and sasaeng fans, he said, “There’s no excuse for the use of violence, but as someone that’s been in the same situation, I can understand what he must have been thinking. Dealing with urine and feces in the morning, receiving hateful texts, stalker calls… Idols also have to suffer at the salon and events. Once this accumulates, there’s only so much a human being can take before it all explodes.

Concluding the interview, he stated, “Sasaeng fans transform with time. They are now a gang-like presence that transfers information from one to another. There are some that even trade money for information. Managers cannot be like the way they were in the past where they use violence. Celebrities are celebrities, but the managers are also dying here.

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
Cray cray sasaengs indeed.

Date: 2012-03-15 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona.livejournal.com
I wonder who he is, but it's nice to hear his side of the story. I'm saddened that he actually got reported though for that. Of course the parents would take their babies' side when there's so many vs. one man.
It sounds horrifying though. But then again, we already knew that.

Date: 2012-03-15 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pekojan.livejournal.com
DBSK's old manager?

Date: 2012-03-15 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayoochun.livejournal.com
When I wake up and open the door, there’s urine and feces on the floor, as if they’re marking their territory...
O____O

Date: 2012-03-15 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
I'm imaging a girl squatting in the hall and doing her business while the others are going, "No let me shit on Oppa, he's my OPPAR!!!"

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-noctem.livejournal.com
When the idols come out after finishing their schedules, they’ll swarm in close and begin touching their private parts.

Why would you do that?! Why would anyone do anything listed in this article? And it pisses me off that parents are quick to side with their kids. I highly doubt they're unaware of what their kids are up to, and turning a blind eye seems to be the easier option.

Life as a band manager must be hell.

Date: 2012-03-15 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Imagine what happens to girl idols, fans are groping mad. it's freaking horrible.

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xoshio.livejournal.com
"There’s urine and feces on the floor, as if they’re marking their territory" what are they? dogs?

Date: 2012-03-15 10:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aimaw.livejournal.com
Well since the doer are girls/women, they should be called bitches(?)

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isikenai.livejournal.com
Terrible. I hope a new policy can be formed that protects idols and the people around them from people like this. Cause it's been allowed to go on for so long it's turned into some sort of gang culture :/

Date: 2012-03-15 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kanintallrik.livejournal.com
this is so messed up D:

Date: 2012-03-15 12:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] krissasaur
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Date: 2012-03-15 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
There's a couple of sentence I'd like to bold here
When I wake up and open the door, there’s urine and feces on the floor, as if they’re marking their territory
even barged into the dorm and stolen all of the food
Sasaeng fans think that violence and verbal assault is a way of getting closer to their favorite idol.
they’ll swarm in close and begin touching their private parts

Well I don't know about Korea but these are fucking crimes where I live.

Date: 2012-03-15 11:10 am (UTC)

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenrosalie.livejournal.com
There’s no excuse for the use of violence, but as someone that’s been in the same situation, I can understand what he must have been thinking
I really liked this part

Date: 2012-03-15 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-noctem.livejournal.com
IA, he gave a really good perspective of things. It's interesting to read about the sasaengs from a different point of view.

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopjustlisten.livejournal.com
gross who shits on the floor
they sound rabid and feral

Date: 2012-03-15 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mei-zi.livejournal.com
this post is making me rly sad :c i can't imagine having to go through all that crap

Date: 2012-03-15 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katzsong.livejournal.com
If the girl is my baby/daughter, I shall reflect on my own parenting skill and put her into psychological intervention/therapy :3 Ain't gonna raised a bully/gangster

shall remind myself again when I actually have a daughter

Date: 2012-03-15 11:53 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com
if you can actually find out

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-quake.livejournal.com
yuck T_T urines and feces on the floor? are they on their right mind.........

Date: 2012-03-15 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopjustlisten.livejournal.com
well obviously not
they seriously freak me out cos it seems like they have no morals/respect whatsoever and just do whatever they want and are proud of it

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phililen3.livejournal.com
When I wake up and open the door, there’s urine and feces on the floor, as if they’re marking their territory
You serious?!?!?!?! But then again, they send the guys undies with blood so....

Sasaeng fans think that violence and verbal assault is a way of getting closer to their favorite idol
proof of their fuckupedness

they’ll swarm in close and begin touching their private parts
no words.... If it were me, I would beat them. UGH.
Edited Date: 2012-03-15 11:00 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-15 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illustratedd.livejournal.com
this is horrifyingly awful :( makes one wonder why'd anyone want to actually be a kpop idol. i mean, yeah, there are perks and shit but is it all really worth it if all you get in the end are creeps after you? how could they even enjoy anything idgi. i'd be scarred or something.

Date: 2012-03-15 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-noctem.livejournal.com
At this point I fail to see the pros of being an idol :( You're overworked, you don't eat and sleep well, you do what your company tells you to do and then you have to deal with crazy fans. I genuinely wonder how much money they make and if it's even worth all this (though I think JYJ would give up their fortune to lead a normal life). I'd feel so jaded and forget that I started doing this because I loved to sing and dance or whatever.

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Date: 2012-03-15 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] already.livejournal.com
This is horrible. I wonder if these reports and articles on local and international media have any actual impact. I have no idea how responsive SK's government towards negative publicity like this, but considering how hallyu is basically one of their bragging instrument nowadays and this issue concerns acts of crimes by minors I really hope this is handled seriously.

Date: 2012-03-15 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katzsong.livejournal.com
You make a good point. With the international fame that they're so proud about, idk if SK is ready to be put under the microscope for the way they treated their own star :3

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Date: 2012-03-15 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paopuremix.livejournal.com
This makes me really sad for all the idols and managers/other workers who have to go through this every day.
I really hope a solution for this comes up otherwise, idk...

Kpop is supposed to make me all happy and giddy inside, but all these articles popping up is seriously bringing the mood down. :/

Date: 2012-03-15 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asth77.livejournal.com
I hate the way the journalists and some ppl are asking how do Sasaeng fans feel after being beaten up, as if because they feel good would make it ok.
I don't know what the korean gov is doing tbh. It's been 20 years such idol culture exist. South Korea is one of the most connected country in the world. How come there is no proper law about this? All I hear is lawsuit that take XXX time and nothing's done. How could they let this situation happen?
Sometimes I think South Korea's law system is late as fuck. They don't seem to go foward at the same time as their ppl.

Date: 2012-03-15 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asth77.livejournal.com
It is so strict about random words thrown in a song that might hurt the feelings of their youth, yet nothing is done about celebrities being daily sexually harassed....?

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Date: 2012-03-15 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruuuulovesyou.livejournal.com
this is crazy shit. like....seriously.
urine and feces on the floor. that coming from one of the most developed country?
groping private parts is just.....disgusting. where did all the Asian values go? ;A;

its refreshing to hear about this whole sasaeng issue from another pov.
hopefully people won't be as quick to judge now.
i wonder who this manager be? must be a manager of someone who's rlly famous.
this is also really bad publicity for hallyu and s. korea as a whole, are they going to do anything about it?
or is everything going to be swept under the rug, as usual.
stuff like this really makes me blood boil :@

Date: 2012-03-15 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modernabsurdity.livejournal.com
After all the wank in the Jaejoong and Yoochun posts I hope people see it's a far more complex issue that we thought.

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Date: 2012-03-15 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddeadmeat.livejournal.com
hang on, he used bug spray ?

Date: 2012-03-15 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katzsong.livejournal.com
He ran out of pepper spray? jokes aside, it is dangerous. May not be lethal, but can cause permanent disability (when it gets into the eyes, or something). No excuse, but I guess he was desperate :3

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Date: 2012-03-15 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audiograms.livejournal.com
fucking arrest the bitches
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Date: 2012-03-15 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unreal.livejournal.com
IA. I was being stalked for 2 years. And knew who my stalker was. And there where many times where I wished I just had something so I could kill him and end it all there. Since no one besides my parents took me seriously.
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Date: 2012-03-15 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vardagaladhiel.livejournal.com
Surely the Korean police should be taking some action against the sasaeng fans...they're committing crimes and must be made to understand that. I know it wouldn't be easy or clear cut, but surely there must be some action that can be taken.

Date: 2012-03-15 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona.livejournal.com
Most of them are minors though, or can afford to buy themselves out of jail sentences, etc.

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Date: 2012-03-15 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
I just don't get it, they are dumb people. They should start arresting them, book'em. It needs to be documented so then when these dummies want to do things in the world like say get a job, a loan that shit will come back to them. Then they will be bums low lifes and have nothing THE HORROR..
That's molesting... that's a charge.
Korea thrives on honor, charge their parents seeing that most are minor.

Date: 2012-03-15 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona.livejournal.com
The problem with charging the parents is that the children don't see what they're doing as dishonourable anyway. If their parents are charged with anything less than a jail sentence, they'll probably keep doing it because there's no detriment to THEM, except maybe removal of money sources and grounding. Sure, the money will help stop them get around, but there are other ways.

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Date: 2012-03-15 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-erotomanic.livejournal.com
how unsatisfying are the lives of sasaengs that they would do all those dehumanizing acts? :o(
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