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omonatheydidBy Kim Do-yeun
More than 80 percent of Chinese Internet poll participants said that Korea was responsible for the Dec. 12 homicide of a Korean Coast Guard officer by a Chinese fisherman illegally fishing in Korean waters.
Popular Chinese portal qq.com launched an online survey Tuesday asking netizens who should claim the primary responsibility for the incident, according to Yonhap News of Korea.
As of this morning, 10,427 people, or 81 percent of participants, voted that the Korean Coast Guard was responsible, showing the Chinese netizens’ sympathetic attitude toward their own fishermen.
Meanwhile, 2,447 people, or 19 percent, responded that the Chinese fishermen were responsible.
The Chinese believe that the South Korean Coast Guard used “excessive violence” that elicited a violent response from the fishermen involved.
The Chinese daily Global Times said that South Korea has adopted a one-sided rhetoric regarding the incident, with not enough evidence or facts surrounding the stabbing of the Coast Guard officers.
This is consistent with the reserved attitude of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, whose spokesman Liu Min said in a briefing that they are “watching the reports while investigations are ongoing.”
Global Times cited a fishing industry expert as saying that “evidence is hard to come by for such maritime disputes. If there is no video or photographic evidence, the facts are hard to prove.”
The paper further said that Korea’s harsh sanctions against illegal fishing were inciting violent and impulsive responses from fishers and introduced one fisherman’s experience fighting with Korean guards.
“They were chasing me, so I obviously resisted. We are just ordinary fishers trying to avoid paying some 300,000 yuan (5.5 million won). We don’t have intentions to hurt people,” said the fisherman, who lives in Shandong Province on the eastern coast of China facing the Korean peninsula.
Most other Chinese media outlets have refrained from commenting, however, and are reporting the known facts.
Sourec: Korea times
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More than 80 percent of Chinese Internet poll participants said that Korea was responsible for the Dec. 12 homicide of a Korean Coast Guard officer by a Chinese fisherman illegally fishing in Korean waters.
Popular Chinese portal qq.com launched an online survey Tuesday asking netizens who should claim the primary responsibility for the incident, according to Yonhap News of Korea.
As of this morning, 10,427 people, or 81 percent of participants, voted that the Korean Coast Guard was responsible, showing the Chinese netizens’ sympathetic attitude toward their own fishermen.
Meanwhile, 2,447 people, or 19 percent, responded that the Chinese fishermen were responsible.
The Chinese believe that the South Korean Coast Guard used “excessive violence” that elicited a violent response from the fishermen involved.
The Chinese daily Global Times said that South Korea has adopted a one-sided rhetoric regarding the incident, with not enough evidence or facts surrounding the stabbing of the Coast Guard officers.
This is consistent with the reserved attitude of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, whose spokesman Liu Min said in a briefing that they are “watching the reports while investigations are ongoing.”
Global Times cited a fishing industry expert as saying that “evidence is hard to come by for such maritime disputes. If there is no video or photographic evidence, the facts are hard to prove.”
The paper further said that Korea’s harsh sanctions against illegal fishing were inciting violent and impulsive responses from fishers and introduced one fisherman’s experience fighting with Korean guards.
“They were chasing me, so I obviously resisted. We are just ordinary fishers trying to avoid paying some 300,000 yuan (5.5 million won). We don’t have intentions to hurt people,” said the fisherman, who lives in Shandong Province on the eastern coast of China facing the Korean peninsula.
Most other Chinese media outlets have refrained from commenting, however, and are reporting the known facts.
Sourec: Korea times
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Date: 2011-12-13 10:00 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-12-13 10:35 am (UTC)Cannot deal with the China hate this might cause,tbh.
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Date: 2011-12-13 10:38 am (UTC)I'm pretty sure there's a chinese version and a korean version of the incident and maybe chinese citizens blame the korean coast guard because he was portrayed as aggressive in the version they heard.
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Date: 2011-12-13 10:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-14 04:19 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-12-13 10:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-13 10:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-13 11:30 am (UTC)sigh at how naive the chinese are.
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Date: 2011-12-13 11:35 am (UTC)And that is very sad.
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Date: 2011-12-13 03:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-13 11:48 am (UTC)GJ@sounded like a xenophobic asshole! :) it's nice to know you've grouped a entire country of people based on a couple of people.
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Date: 2011-12-13 12:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-13 12:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-13 01:11 pm (UTC)I'm sure you've met "bad" people either chinese, french, american... there's idiots and assholes everywhere. But would you judge over 1 billion people according to the few ones you've met?
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Date: 2011-12-13 06:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-13 11:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-14 12:22 am (UTC)Being half-Chinese this was highly offending, I am from Beijing, I know I am not everything nor am I God. I have had horrible experiences with racism in America, China and Korea yet I do not hate every country and its people because of a few idiots I have once met.
So overall, sad face to you. It was very hurtful.
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Date: 2011-12-14 04:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-14 04:03 am (UTC)But you know why I would never say that, or even remotely believe it's true in any shape or form? BECAUSE I'M NOT A RACIST.
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Date: 2011-12-13 07:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-14 12:53 am (UTC)They also do not fish according to GPS' or maps but rather to where the fish is. In the open sea it is hard to notice the exact position when catching the fish that would be gone in a mere hours is the main concern. Every time the fishermen head out to sea they must catch a lot of fish or they are at risk of losing 140,000-150,000 yuan due to cost of gas, crew and operations.
The Korean license does not mean that the Korean coastguards do not bother the fishermen, they are often forced to weigh their catches. If it exceeds the set amount even by a little than the Chinese are fined heavily. Furthermore the cost of the license and the amount it allows to be fished makes it nearly impossible to make a profit.
If the illegal fishermen are caught in Korean waters without acting violently against Korean coastguards they are fined. If they do act violently they are sent to the police (unclear which side) without a fine.
There is also strong discontent in the Chinese fishing community against the behavior of Korean coastguards. They resort to the use of water spray guns, rubber bullets and others, often aggressively against Chinese fishermen who are mostly waving their shovels in effort to escape.
Most agree that the person who killed the Korean coastguard should be punished but also that there are deeper existing problems between the Korea and China which escalated the violence and a situation which makes reacting violently against the coastguards beneficial. Most of the Chinese fishing community are simply trying to secure a living in a very difficult year where the fish are non-existent.
:( I wrote down the highlights of the article from sina.cn, it helps balance and explain the background of the situation. It isn't just evil Chinese steal fish and kills Korean person.
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Date: 2011-12-14 08:25 am (UTC)But that poll was just plain stupid.
Journalist shouldn't try to make the situation worst.
I'm sure that article hurt the coast guard family just like it did the fisherman family, it was just plain stupid to have such a poll.
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Date: 2011-12-14 04:05 am (UTC)(Oh look! A grown up and not racist comment!)
TRUE
Date: 2011-12-14 08:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-14 04:27 am (UTC)I'm Chinese. That fishermen shouldn't have been fishing in Korea waters. It was stupid. What he did was wrong, and it was his fault. I am not bias, and I can fucking acknowledge when someone does something stupid and wrong. But you know what, I understand human desperation. I understand why a poor fishermen with no opportunities would go and do something this desperate. But you know what, something like this doesn't make it okay to say racist remarks about China or Chinese people. If you want to be racist, be racist to my fucking face and don't hide behind a computer.
I've been on LJ since I was 12, and this is the first time I have ever seen such blatant and vicious racism by a group of people. Great job Omona. Classy.
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Date: 2011-12-14 06:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-14 08:30 am (UTC)Most people were hurt by the poll itself.
The others mostly acknowledge that there was two sides of the storie.
I don't think you should blame everyone tbh.
By blaming everyone for one person's action you're doing the exact same think that person was doing. Judging a whole group based on one person.
I understand you're angry cause that comment was absurd and rude but don't act as he/she did.
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Date: 2011-12-14 03:58 pm (UTC)Racist behaviour by anyone is just unacceptable, and I'm just not okay with people being careless and silent about this.
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Date: 2011-12-14 04:08 pm (UTC)What I don't understand is why you're attacking omona (in general) or the people in this discussion (in particular) considering that most of us (including me) told this person she was being racist and intolerante.
You're basically judging and blaming all of us in regards of one person attitude, thus doing the exact same thin she was doing.
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Date: 2011-12-15 03:32 am (UTC)I'm not saying all Omona members are racist, but I get where ~j_z is coming from, tbh. It seems like whenever there is a news post about issues related to China there are always a number of people making hurtful remarks, and it's an incredibly frustrating thing to experience. Maybe in this post (and the previous related post) there had been only one or two people being overtly racist, but more are expressing their opinions in a negative way in regards to the country and its people on a whole, without outright saying "lol chinese people suck", which doesn't make them less damaging.
Basically, I don't think the wording of ~j_z's comment is the problem here. Yes, it's problematic maybe, but it comes from a place of exasperation, which I find understandable.