"is it beyonce?" smh jaekyung all their japan interviews are embarrassing. hopefully it'll pay off in the long run. stay on yr kawaii grind, rainbow! Ikko needs a new weave or something; that cut does nothing for her face I think Jisook is becoming my fav rn
As a korean learning japanese I get so much secondhand embarrassment from most of these interviews. Especially since you can tell they are trying to hard to be loud and cute and enthusiastic. :I So far the only interviews from kpop idols I can bear to watch without cringing are THSK's, Choshinsei's (when Yoonhak is talking), and DGNA's/Daikokudanji's. I don't even bother to watch 2pm, Shinee, etc.
Korean as a written language is a lot easier to learn because it was created much later than most other languages - sometime during the 15th century. Learning the spoken language is difficult in that a lot of pronunciation is similar, and there are a lot of "exceptions" to the rule. Of course, English is the king of odd exceptions...
Japanese has a more difficult written language, but pronunciation is more or less alphabet based (aka no odd cases of letters sounding like other letters like the Korean ㅙ and ㅞ, or things being pronounced differently because where it falls in a phrase 합니다's ㅂ is pronounced like a m).
I think the problem for Kpop idols going to Japan is that they don't have enough time to fully immerse themselves in the language (flying back and forth, promotions, etc. etc.) so they get like the Idiots Guide to Japanese version of learning and end up hurpdurping their way through interviews. Plus their agencies probably teach them Japanese in the most "marketable" way... which is loud and cute, apparently.
yeah both languages sure remembered to keep their balance of difficult and easy with japanese-easier hearing and korean-easier writing. only I think japanese is even more complex throwing off the balance how sound can change the meaning and my gosh the man-talk/gal-talk. little sad that books don't really teach that cause I probably end up sounding like a middle aged man
kpop idols... that's... really like you said but I'm hoping there's genuine people wanting to learn more in-depth
Yeah, I'd pretty much agree with shirafaye. Generally written korean is a lot easier- my friend picked up the alphabet in less than a day and could read/write pretty much anything within a week. Spelling can get a bit tricky with the more rounded sounds and changing prounciations, but even then I'd say it's a lot easier than memorizing hiragana, katakana, AND the kanji you need to just get by in Japan/japanese. Korean written language- aka hangul- is just one alphabet with letters for each of the sounds, which helps a lot. Plus the counters and everything and the multiple levels of formality... @_@
In terms of spoken language I'd say it's a lot easier to get fluent sounding/natural in japanese. I've noticed that korean idols or even just regular koreans find it easier to learn and speak japanese than the other way around. Korean is rather subtle and you can't fall back as often on the tried and true sentence formations as you can with japanese, imo, otherwise you sound really stilted and awkward and not natural at all. I find that you can get away with that more often with japanese for some reason. So overall I'd say japanese takes less time to pick up in terms of speaking/gaining a certain level of fluency. Korean is pretty similar in level/grammar in many aspects though.
interesting.... well thank you for the thorough explanation ^^
yup, hangul didn't take much to learn in my case either. But considering both alphabet sets are equally "new" codes to brain, I'm still struggling with Japanese. Well I guess it's just more to memorize.
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Date: 2011-10-03 02:02 pm (UTC)all their japan interviews are embarrassing. hopefully it'll pay off in the long run. stay on yr kawaii grind, rainbow!
Ikko needs a new weave or something; that cut does nothing for her face
I think Jisook is becoming my fav rn
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Date: 2011-10-03 02:14 pm (UTC)I feel even more embarrassed because they're trying to become sexy and cute and it doesn't look natural for everyone
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Date: 2011-10-03 02:15 pm (UTC)I love her introduction, too.
poor girl got the wasabi macaroon, jae kyung too. but their reactions were too cute.
ikko's haircut though...
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Date: 2011-10-03 03:10 pm (UTC)I haven't had macarons in more than a year.
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Date: 2011-10-03 04:40 pm (UTC)the whole having to show talents thing is so embarrassing tbh
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Date: 2011-10-03 09:16 pm (UTC)Korean as a written language is a lot easier to learn because it was created much later than most other languages - sometime during the 15th century. Learning the spoken language is difficult in that a lot of pronunciation is similar, and there are a lot of "exceptions" to the rule. Of course, English is the king of odd exceptions...
Japanese has a more difficult written language, but pronunciation is more or less alphabet based (aka no odd cases of letters sounding like other letters like the Korean ㅙ and ㅞ, or things being pronounced differently because where it falls in a phrase 합니다's ㅂ is pronounced like a m).
I think the problem for Kpop idols going to Japan is that they don't have enough time to fully immerse themselves in the language (flying back and forth, promotions, etc. etc.) so they get like the Idiots Guide to Japanese version of learning and end up hurpdurping their way through interviews. Plus their agencies probably teach them Japanese in the most "marketable" way... which is loud and cute, apparently.
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Date: 2011-10-04 03:39 am (UTC)kpop idols... that's... really like you said but I'm hoping there's genuine people wanting to learn more in-depth
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:41 am (UTC)In terms of spoken language I'd say it's a lot easier to get fluent sounding/natural in japanese. I've noticed that korean idols or even just regular koreans find it easier to learn and speak japanese than the other way around. Korean is rather subtle and you can't fall back as often on the tried and true sentence formations as you can with japanese, imo, otherwise you sound really stilted and awkward and not natural at all. I find that you can get away with that more often with japanese for some reason. So overall I'd say japanese takes less time to pick up in terms of speaking/gaining a certain level of fluency. Korean is pretty similar in level/grammar in many aspects though.
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Date: 2011-10-05 05:21 pm (UTC)yup, hangul didn't take much to learn in my case either. But considering both alphabet sets are equally "new" codes to brain, I'm still struggling with Japanese. Well I guess it's just more to memorize.
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Date: 2011-10-03 07:36 pm (UTC)