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The more modern sound and suggestive imagery of K-Pop is challenging J-Pop on its home turf


South Korean pops group Girls Generation performs on the stage during the K-Pop All-Star live concert in Niigata, northern Japan, on Saturday, Aug. 20, 2011.


Thousands of Japanese protestors gathered in Tokyo last month, but they weren't rallying against nuclear power, the country's revolving-door Prime Minister position, or the long-stagnant economy. Their wrath, rather, was directed at soap operas. In late July, Japanese actor Sousuke Takaoka was fired from his promotion agency after criticizing the Fuji TV network on Twitter for airing so many Korean programs that he felt "brainwashed." By August 21, a reported 6,000 people had gathered outside of Fuji TV's headquarters, carrying Japanese flags and shouting "No more Korean wave."

In Japan—a country that has prided itself on producing and exporting its own fantastical pop culture—Korean entertainment has come to gobble up massive portions of melodrama and musical market share. Not only do Korean dramas air frequently on TV, but in the past year Korean pop groups like Girls' Generation and KARA have shattered sales records and become primetime fixtures on Japanese television programs, thanks to a mish-mash of Western club-friendly and a sped-up tempo appropriate for an arcade. This boom in Korean entertainment isn't just about units moved or appearances on talk shows; Korean media, especially pop music, has exploded in the Land of the Rising Sun because the K-Pop architects have embraced everything that the Japanese music industry has shunned for years.

The Korean Wave is a global phenomenon, but its arrival in Japan can be traced back to a show about memory loss. In 2003, Japanese network NHK aired the South Korean drama Winter Sonata, centering on a music prodigy who emerges from a car crash with amnesia. The show became a surprise hit, especially among older women, prompting Winter Sonata-themed tour packages and a classical concert tour of Japan featuring music from the series. That same year, K-Pop made its first big inroads into Japan, as Korean singer BoA climbed the music charts. In BoA's wake, Korean boy bands TVXQ and Big Bang achieved similar success.

Since then, K-Pop has come to rival J-Pop in popularity. In August 2010, KARA and Girls' Generation (also known as SNSD, mostly in the Western world) crashed the Japanese charts with their singles "Mister" and "Genie" respectively. Both of those songs also had been hits in their native Korea, and, after undergoing some translation, proved just as popular in Japan. Today, both outfits have had runs at the top of the charts that have broken sales records for foreign artists in Japan, while their debut albums have all been certified as at least platinum. Girls' Generation's self-titled album even went double platinum, a first for any Korean girl group.

More significantly, Korean pop groups are becoming ingrained in this island nation's music landscape. While Western artists like Lady Gaga and Beyoncé are definitely popular in Japan, they are essentially fleeting visitors, only stopping by when they have a new album to hock. They'll fly over, do some TV appearances and maybe a brief tour, then vanish. This latest crop of K-Pop artists, though, is sticking around. KARA and Girls' Generation are becoming regulars on television, whether it's to perform a single or just being lampooned by the Japanese version of Saturday Night Live. In 2011, both groups released songs exclusively for the Japanese market, sung entirely in Japanese (the members of each group have learned Japanese), which have been predictably popular. Korean groups such as 2NE1, Brown Eyed Girls, and 2PM also have followed them into Japan. The latter, a boy band, debuted their first single at No. 4 on Japan's Oricon Charts, the nation's most prominent music-ranking list.


KARA's "Mister," the Korean group's first Japanese single, debuted at No. 5 on Japan's Oricon charts in August 2010 and sat in the top spot for the country's karaoke rankings for months. Its video, above, drew attention for its "butt dance."

Part of K-Pop's success in Japan can be attributed to globe-hopping musical production. Ian Martin of The Japan Times writes that Korean acts take most of their cues from Western music, meaning a lot of European electro house (2NE1's Diplo-ish "I'm The Best") and American R&B touches (Girls' Generation's "Mr. Taxi" and KARA's "Mister") among other influences. In the case of Girls' Generation, it especially helps that most of the tracks on their Japanese debut album were sculpted by Western producers. These touches might not necessarily impress Western ears, but in Japan they ring revelatory. A common stereotype about Japan is that it's a nation stubborn to change, and in regards to J-Pop, this is completely correct. Most of the popular tracks of today could have been frozen back in the mid '90s and thawed out at any time, the combination of goofy numbers and sappy ballads remaining basically unchanged for the past two decades. Japanese music plays it safe, resulting in a bland popscape where artists have very little opportunity to expand internationally. Meanwhile, K-Pop has conquered Japan and most of Asia, and is even taking baby steps into the Western world.

Image also plays a critical role in separating the two countries' pop music. A crass way of summing it up is this: K-Pop stars out-sex their J-Pop counterparts. The members of Girls' Generation show a fair amount of skin in their music videos, while many fans were drawn to KARA by a chunk of choreography Wikipedia dubs "the butt dance." Beyond straight-up sex appeal, K-Pop groups look and act like real adults, whereas J-Pop outfits often emphasize adolescent cuteness. K-Pop unit T-ara's 2009 video for the song "Bo Peep Bo Peep" centered around a member of the girl group going to a club and hooking up with a guy in the bathroom, an elevator, and his apartment. The Japanese clip, in advance of T-ara's official Japanese debut later this month, finds the members wearing cat ears and playing un-erotically with one another: the sexuality of the original replaced with Hello-Kitty-approved cuteness. The most popular Japanese act of the moment, AKB48, is a collection of 48 singers usually wearing high-school uniforms while behaving like 15-year-old girls. It's been a tried-and-true path to pop success; Japanese singers have been donning their staple sailor suits since the '70s-a fashion shtick that's far from progressive. Girls' Generation and KARA aren't glimmering examples of feminism, but at least they look and act like grown women.

As is often the case with any new trend, the Internet also gave K-Pop a kick start on its way to routing J-Pop. Before Girls' Generation and KARA officially debuted in Japan, curious fans of other Korean cultural exports discovered these groups via YouTube. This e-exposure helped build a bigger fan base, one guaranteed to buoy these girl groups once their music reached Japanese shores. Most Japanese music companies, meanwhile, vigilantly remove unofficial clips from video sites. In one recent incident, Lady Gaga's official YouTube account was briefly suspended after she posted an unauthorized clip of her appearance on J-Pop boy band SMAP's variety show. Instead of embracing exposure from one of the West's most popular entertainers, J-Pop powers that be opted to shut her down.

J-Pop juggernauts won't be vanishing from the charts anytime soon, but Korean pop has found a way to win big on Japan's home turf and rile up the xenophobic fringes. The only question remaining isn't whether Korean cultural powerhouses will stick around, but, rather, will J-Pop artists reinvent themselves or stay stuck in their schoolgirl-style sonic time warp?


Patrick St. Michel is a journalist living in Osaka, Japan. He writes for The Japan Times and founded the Japanese music blog Make Believe Melodies. He has also contributed to Esquire.com, the Los Angeles Daily News, and the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

Source: Patrick St. Michel @ The Atlantic
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Date: 2011-09-13 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caitlinonkey.livejournal.com
unnir did good?

Date: 2011-09-13 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toomanysides.livejournal.com
In BoA's wake, Korean boy bands TVXQ and Big Bang achieved similar success.
No. Not even close.

Tho KPOP's embrace of Youtube or at least the networks' lack of ninja skills is allowing them to grow internationally more than anything. But then again Japan's strict piracy allows groups to still sell millions of albums.

Date: 2011-09-13 05:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-09-13 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gyuri.livejournal.com
Something about this tells me that the person who wrote this doesn't really know about kpop or jpop

Date: 2011-09-13 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-keiko.livejournal.com
or only knows kpop and the surface of jpop (idols). BOTH industries have artists of more merit that dont fit any of the descriptions that the writer lists---only difference is that at least in japan these artists still sell just as well as their idol competition

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Date: 2011-09-13 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-keiko.livejournal.com
oh, this is going to be interesting! shame i'm at work so i cant sit in this thread and say what i really think about this article in depth (right on some points, tragically off on others) but this was a great read.

mika nakashima, shiina ringo, perfume, saori@destiny, sakanaction, ONE OK ROCK, nico touches the wall, superfly, tokyo jihen, OLIVIA, lecca....i dunno injust listed a few musically diverse chart success japanese artists who sit a outside what this article is talking about in terms of being "stuck in jpop past"

maybe if u compare kpop idols to jpop idols, yeah. but if u compare kpop idols to jpop dance/ vocal units like, BENNIE K, ya-kyim (pre-label change), dream, SOULHEAD, MAX, ect--- u get the appropriate mix of what sells with what breaks ground.

ESPECIALLY in BENNIE K's case....god, i miss those girls

Date: 2011-09-13 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gyuri.livejournal.com
what did i just read? i feel like all you did was just list a bunch of artists names.

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Date: 2011-09-13 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shikinluv.livejournal.com
I respect you, The Atlantic, but no.

I love J-pop. I love K-pop. I don't understand why they must be compared or why they cannot co-exist. And they have the power to influence the other. As far as I'm concerned, it's a good thing that K-pop is around to provide competition. With competition comes innovation.

Date: 2011-09-13 04:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-09-13 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taecish.livejournal.com
this article is dumb, it's acting like IDOL POP in japan is the only form of j-pop there, so it's all stuck in the 90s. but hey unlike korea there is actually musical acts in japan that aren't manufactured idols :O!! (SHOCKING) who have a 'modern sound' by western standards

Date: 2011-09-13 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soundczech.livejournal.com
exactly, when he was talking about how jpop emphasises cute adolescence i kept thinking about huge names like amuro namie, crystal kay, and koda kumi who don't fit that model at all. he's basically only talking about girl idol groups who have never really been that popular in the mainstream (with the obvious exception of AKB).

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Date: 2011-09-13 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadistic-dance.livejournal.com
But AKB conquered Japan.......

Date: 2011-09-13 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tippani.livejournal.com
lol there's one of these every week

Date: 2011-09-13 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
Side-eyeing this article tbh. It makes some good points though. It's especially right about Western artists just coming to the country to sing a live or two and then they go home (there's nothing particularly wrong with that, but I see the point that is trying to be made). However, there are some things here that are a little... *can't find the right word*
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Date: 2011-09-13 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gyuri.livejournal.com
He referenced wikipedia when talking about kara, I stand by my belief that all he did was look at wiki and then akp and wrote an article.

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Date: 2011-09-13 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nono-dono-k.livejournal.com
But Kmusic only have these Kpop groups to be their representatives, at least Jmusic also have other styles that are greatly known across the world =0

Date: 2011-09-13 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
*gives you Internet points*

Date: 2011-09-13 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilsatin.livejournal.com
I love T-ara!

Date: 2011-09-13 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pottertastic.livejournal.com
same i hope they make it big in japan

Date: 2011-09-13 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiffa666.livejournal.com
The article is stupid, Japanese music 'bland'? Did the writer even research at all? Japanese music isnt solely populated by manufacturedidols who sing autotunes and generic tracks.

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Date: 2011-09-13 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k0dama.livejournal.com
... Sounds like it was written by an outsider.
Also other groups have been steadily trying for Japan since the beginning of Kpop. I still remember when SES went overseas. One of their members is bilingual!

But it was the 90s, and back then the Korea pop scene was SM SM SM SM redundant :/

Actually o wait, it's still like that.
Minus 2NE1

Date: 2011-09-14 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cc9095.livejournal.com
off topic, but could you please tell me who's on your icon? =)

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Date: 2011-09-13 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yolleh.livejournal.com
Didn't even bother to read it because the word 'conquered' is indicative of colonisation and the hallyu wave is overrated.

Date: 2011-09-13 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sai12.livejournal.com
lol did Lady Gaga's yt really get suspended? I'm always late on news....as to the rest of this...ahh okay then.

Date: 2011-09-13 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginevragirl.livejournal.com
It did, but it was reinstated a short while after. Lol.
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Date: 2011-09-13 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jibegajima.livejournal.com
AKB48, is a collection of 48 singers

r u sure. even I know they have more members than that. This feels like a research paper a 7th grader would write about their faves in English class.

Date: 2011-09-13 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baboboy.livejournal.com
kpop is overrated

Date: 2011-09-13 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeit91.livejournal.com
can't wait til i grow out of this fad, tbh

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Date: 2011-09-13 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perriwynkkle.livejournal.com
As a lover of both Jpop (since 1999) and Kpop (since 2001) I must say, I agree with PARTS of this article.
- Some Jpop acts are VERY time-warped in the 90s. (Especially any band from Johnny's or AKB48.)
- Kpop IS a more Westernized and sexual idol community, though only in small increments.
- Yes, Jpop IDOL GROUPS, such as AKB48 are not helping feminism in any way, but I don't believe that was the point of their creation anyways.
- Kpop is VERY popular in Japan. It is in the beginning stages of breaking out of a cult phenomenon and into the mainstream of Japanese pop culture.

BUT

- Kpop and Jpop both are not revolutionary. Neither is Western music.
- Yes, Japan can be VERY xenophobic, but the younger generations are slowly starting to change from that ideal. (Key word: slowly)
- Kpop is neither better or more feminist than Jpop. Has this author even SEEN Girl's Generation's music videos?


Just my two cents.

Date: 2011-09-13 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeandmemory.livejournal.com
nicely put.

i think SNSD's earlier music videos (ITNW, girls' generation) were far less... provocative, shall we say, than anything from genie onward. the stuff from their first album, especially. but then again, feminism doesn't seem to be a huge concept in asian pop. :| it's there, of course, but as in a lot of pop music (western or otherwise), there are a lot of girls singing about guys, etc. but, you know, the times they are a-changin', and hopefully we'll see more feminism filtering into all pop music.

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Date: 2011-09-13 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cc9095.livejournal.com
The person who wrote this article should have been more careful:

1- check the facts.
Since when do you put BOA, TVXQ and Big Bang [no offenses to BB] in one line? The first two opened Japan to Korean artist, without them korean band would have difficulties in japanese market. And Big Bang is only starting.

2- watch more videos.
Beyond straight-up sex appeal, K-Pop groups look and act like real adults, whereas J-Pop outfits often emphasize adolescent cuteness.
Oh really??? I have the feeling the author of the article wasn't digging deep enough.

Date: 2011-09-13 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brailleun.livejournal.com
Humm my friend, who spent a year in Japan as an exchange student during 2007/2008 once told me that BB was quite a hit among young adults&teens. Not as big thing as BoA or DBSK, but her gal friends listened BB and not BoA or DBSK.

Date: 2011-09-13 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annhh.livejournal.com
I can't even start comparing, I'm for both parties. So I'm sick people bashing one or the other saying this one's better.

they both suck in their own way and they're both

Date: 2011-09-13 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annhh.livejournal.com
excuse me, lol, someone walked in, couldn't really write my rant :D with panic I always close omona first so..

–both equally special also. And that's where I stand. Maybe it comes down to philosophy, really. Like I can't say some country is "better than" or "my culture is the best". I have preferances too for sure but in the end they all equally suck, only in different areas. We aren't kids anymore, come on people... stop comparing

And what is this biased game I see in articles written by noobs -.-

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Date: 2011-09-13 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tellykins.livejournal.com
wtf? just no.

Date: 2011-09-13 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerplunk.livejournal.com
We've all seen this before, i don't mean to sound racist but was the writer korean? anyways, this is the same arrogant shit we see that hails kpop as Japans music saviour! spear me please!

this article is full BULL, they referenced wikipedia for fucks sake.

SNSD, KARA, TVXQ are so far the only korean artist who japan is currently interested in. And no BoA is not one of them the pretty much stopped being relevant their after 2007.

Jpop act still outsell kpop ones since most Kpop groups do mediocre on oricon weekly then drop like rocks.

Date: 2011-09-13 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerplunk.livejournal.com
spare** lol spear

The author note is at the bottom

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Date: 2011-09-13 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grapewhine.livejournal.com
I'm sick of people seeing J-Pop as a limbo-struck and time-stuck version of Asian pop or something. J-Pop is not being replaced or "succeeded" by K-Pop, they sound completely different and to me J-Pop is unique and unmistakable. K-Pop is kind of homogenized and it follows contemporary trends to the point of being any other pop machine spurting catchy tunes.

People need to check what they say: J-Pop is totally streets ahead.

Date: 2011-09-13 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeandmemory.livejournal.com
nice community reference, there.

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Date: 2011-09-13 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xoxgoodbye.livejournal.com
K-Pop groups look and act like real adults, whereas J-Pop outfits often emphasize adolescent cuteness.

False. Both emphasize adolescent cuteness.

Date: 2011-09-13 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umetraehi.livejournal.com
i know someone should send him some kpop videos of b1a4 and Dal shabet and tell me that is emphasizing real adult behavior I love both songs but still .

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