young African American teacher and an older Korean man are involved in a dispute on a bus. The reaction is a reminder of how foreigners are viewed in South Korea.

There it was in the papers and online, being debated and second-guessed: an ugly public faceoff exposing the fragile social fault line that lurks just beneath the surface in South Korea — a society that is slowly, almost painfully, becoming more multicultural.
In an incident caught on videotape, a young African American schoolteacher threatened and then shoved an older Korean man he thought had insulted his race. The unsettling footage, recorded with a cellphone camera, shows the clearly agitated American leaning into the face of a 61-year-old.
"Shut up," he yells in a profane outburst. "You see these rocks?" he says, showing his fists, before starting a brief shoving melee aboard a public bus.
Versions vary over what started the fight last month. One bystander reported that the 24-year-old teacher had been talking to a Korean female companion when confronted by the elderly man, who demanded to know why the woman was with a black man. Others say the American was speaking too loudly.
"I felt offended when the man in the seat said 'Shut up,'" the teacher later told police. "And while I couldn't understand the Korean that followed, I felt he was disparaging black people."
The American, who faces assault charges, has admitted he was wrong to shove him and said he wants to apologize. And this week, another African-American teacher here told the Korean press that he was ordered off a public bus without cause by a driver – as passengers snickered – an insult he thinks is related to the earlier fracas.
The fight was widely covered here, with one English-language paper carrying the headline "Foreigner's ruckus on bus causes online uproar." The article described the teacher with language that might be viewed as playing on racial stereotypes, terming him a "dreadlocked man, wearing a baggy blue shirt and a backwards baseball cap."
On Korean-language Internet sites, many called for swift punishment. Though there are few guns in South Korea and the incident lacked the bloodshed that might have played out in other places, for many it was still unsettling.
"Why are these people acting in such way in a foreign country?" asked one. Others reserved judgment. "I've seen many cases where Koreans act rudely to foreigners, staring at them as if they were some amusement," one commented. "Let's look at ourselves and think of the foreigner, a black man living in Korean society. He probably has to endure a lot of stress."
The incident was also debated among Westerners here, where some have called for the teacher to be deported. "There's no place like home: Some people never should have left," wrote one blog reader. Another added: "Fine him for assault; then kick him out. Simple."
But blogger Michael Hurt, who is a mix of Korean and African American ancestry — suggests that the criticism of the teacher in "the court of popular opinion" was based on his race.
"Well, there we saw it — an angry black man, yelling and scaring … everybody. Surely he just got up and started attacking people for no apparent reason, because that's what scary black men do, right?" Hurt wrote. "Never has there been a discussion — in general — of the fact that black folks like myself get harassed DAILY on subways and buses and trains, but THAT never becomes an issue; no Korean thinks to flip on their cell phone to start making YouTube videos. I don't condone this young man's type of behavior. BUT I UNDERSTAND IT."
Many foreigners understand it. They don't have to be black, just something that routinely brings uninvited scrutiny: being a "foreigner," the dreaded f-word used here to lump everyone here who's not Korean.
Newspapers trumpet the fact that South Korea is becoming more multicultural. Their evidence: The nation of 50 million now includes 1.2 million outsiders — mostly Westerners recruited to teach English in Korean schools.
But tensions and misunderstandings persist. Some Koreans rightly criticize the influx of Western teachers who snap up jobs at higher salaries than natives merely because of their non-Korean face — one that apparently exudes English competency — rather than superior teaching skills.
One baffled African American teacher wrote in a newspaper about the Korean store owner who — apparently coming into close contact with a black person for the first time — innocently took the teacher's arm and tried to rub the blackness off her skin.
In 2009, a foreign professor of Indian descent, while traveling on a bus with a Korean woman, was accosted by a middle-aged Korean man who hurled racist slurs and was charged in the case.
Spurred by the 2009 incident, lawmakers are considering legislation that will provide a detailed definition of discrimination by race and ethnicity and impose criminal penalties.
For many foreigners, Seoul's notoriously abrupt public spaces remain a minefield, a realm of often too-few smiles where pedestrians rarely apologize for or even acknowledge accidental brushes or outright collisions. Speaking in English, my Chinese-born wife and a Korean friend were once scolded on a bus by a woman who insisted that they were in Korea and "by law" should be speaking Korean.
Who knows what set off the recent bus fracas? Maybe the teacher and his Korean friend were talking too loudly in English. An Australian here believes that in crowded places, conversations in foreign languages often seem louder than they are.
Maybe so — but as Americans know all too well, the potholed road to multiculturalism is lined by kangaroo courts of popular opinion.
Source: latimes
I had to post it after I remembered that video being posted here. And that I decided not to go into that post seeing the rep omona has

There it was in the papers and online, being debated and second-guessed: an ugly public faceoff exposing the fragile social fault line that lurks just beneath the surface in South Korea — a society that is slowly, almost painfully, becoming more multicultural.
In an incident caught on videotape, a young African American schoolteacher threatened and then shoved an older Korean man he thought had insulted his race. The unsettling footage, recorded with a cellphone camera, shows the clearly agitated American leaning into the face of a 61-year-old.
"Shut up," he yells in a profane outburst. "You see these rocks?" he says, showing his fists, before starting a brief shoving melee aboard a public bus.
Versions vary over what started the fight last month. One bystander reported that the 24-year-old teacher had been talking to a Korean female companion when confronted by the elderly man, who demanded to know why the woman was with a black man. Others say the American was speaking too loudly.
"I felt offended when the man in the seat said 'Shut up,'" the teacher later told police. "And while I couldn't understand the Korean that followed, I felt he was disparaging black people."
The American, who faces assault charges, has admitted he was wrong to shove him and said he wants to apologize. And this week, another African-American teacher here told the Korean press that he was ordered off a public bus without cause by a driver – as passengers snickered – an insult he thinks is related to the earlier fracas.
The fight was widely covered here, with one English-language paper carrying the headline "Foreigner's ruckus on bus causes online uproar." The article described the teacher with language that might be viewed as playing on racial stereotypes, terming him a "dreadlocked man, wearing a baggy blue shirt and a backwards baseball cap."
On Korean-language Internet sites, many called for swift punishment. Though there are few guns in South Korea and the incident lacked the bloodshed that might have played out in other places, for many it was still unsettling.
"Why are these people acting in such way in a foreign country?" asked one. Others reserved judgment. "I've seen many cases where Koreans act rudely to foreigners, staring at them as if they were some amusement," one commented. "Let's look at ourselves and think of the foreigner, a black man living in Korean society. He probably has to endure a lot of stress."
The incident was also debated among Westerners here, where some have called for the teacher to be deported. "There's no place like home: Some people never should have left," wrote one blog reader. Another added: "Fine him for assault; then kick him out. Simple."
But blogger Michael Hurt, who is a mix of Korean and African American ancestry — suggests that the criticism of the teacher in "the court of popular opinion" was based on his race.
"Well, there we saw it — an angry black man, yelling and scaring … everybody. Surely he just got up and started attacking people for no apparent reason, because that's what scary black men do, right?" Hurt wrote. "Never has there been a discussion — in general — of the fact that black folks like myself get harassed DAILY on subways and buses and trains, but THAT never becomes an issue; no Korean thinks to flip on their cell phone to start making YouTube videos. I don't condone this young man's type of behavior. BUT I UNDERSTAND IT."
Many foreigners understand it. They don't have to be black, just something that routinely brings uninvited scrutiny: being a "foreigner," the dreaded f-word used here to lump everyone here who's not Korean.
Newspapers trumpet the fact that South Korea is becoming more multicultural. Their evidence: The nation of 50 million now includes 1.2 million outsiders — mostly Westerners recruited to teach English in Korean schools.
But tensions and misunderstandings persist. Some Koreans rightly criticize the influx of Western teachers who snap up jobs at higher salaries than natives merely because of their non-Korean face — one that apparently exudes English competency — rather than superior teaching skills.
One baffled African American teacher wrote in a newspaper about the Korean store owner who — apparently coming into close contact with a black person for the first time — innocently took the teacher's arm and tried to rub the blackness off her skin.
In 2009, a foreign professor of Indian descent, while traveling on a bus with a Korean woman, was accosted by a middle-aged Korean man who hurled racist slurs and was charged in the case.
Spurred by the 2009 incident, lawmakers are considering legislation that will provide a detailed definition of discrimination by race and ethnicity and impose criminal penalties.
For many foreigners, Seoul's notoriously abrupt public spaces remain a minefield, a realm of often too-few smiles where pedestrians rarely apologize for or even acknowledge accidental brushes or outright collisions. Speaking in English, my Chinese-born wife and a Korean friend were once scolded on a bus by a woman who insisted that they were in Korea and "by law" should be speaking Korean.
Who knows what set off the recent bus fracas? Maybe the teacher and his Korean friend were talking too loudly in English. An Australian here believes that in crowded places, conversations in foreign languages often seem louder than they are.
Maybe so — but as Americans know all too well, the potholed road to multiculturalism is lined by kangaroo courts of popular opinion.
Source: latimes
I had to post it after I remembered that video being posted here. And that I decided not to go into that post seeing the rep omona has
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:12 pm (UTC)Well then.
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:30 pm (UTC)"You're in America. Speak english."
It's not just a Korean thing...
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:14 pm (UTC)Well that's definitely an opinion but you can't deny the fact that a lot of the English teachers do know English better than many Korean teachers who teach the same subject.
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:15 pm (UTC)Westerners saying "There's no place like home:..." Really now, how else are the ignorant going to get out of their own bubble and learn anything?
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:16 pm (UTC)having been on the same boat, i feel for this guy.
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:31 pm (UTC)Honestly this was the perfect storm for something serious to happen, AND could happen anywhere in the world quiet frankly.
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:41 pm (UTC)ummm D:
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:50 pm (UTC)figures stuff like this would happen in a country with NO education on racial equality. I think the most we were ever taught was "don't buy Japanese magazines, because it's unpatriotic."
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Date: 2011-09-11 08:52 pm (UTC)well, I'm scared now
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Date: 2011-09-11 09:01 pm (UTC)I went to Manila some month ago with friends and it was like that too... we went to the biggest mall of the country and people just kept staring at us, especially me because i'm blond, tall, blue-eyed and my skin is WHITE... I didn't really bother but it's really rude and I could have felt like an beast they wouldn't have stop... And when we were waiting for a taxi to drie us back home, they were obviously AVOIDING us.... The man who usually stop taxis in front of the mall even laughed at us for that actually xDDD
It's not new Asian ppl aren't that open-minded when it comes to foreigners... Not saying Westeners are better ofc but still... =///
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Date: 2011-09-12 05:11 am (UTC)uhm sorry if you had such an uncomfortable time but actually the reason why most pilipino's do that is because they are fascinated looking at you especially when you say you have blond hair, because believe me that is the ultimate ambition of pilipinos, to have blond hair...lol...
as for the taxi drivers, well you're an english speaker and for them they will have a nosebleed if they want to have ask or talk to you....
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Date: 2011-09-11 09:19 pm (UTC)If I go to study in Korea, I will have my phone ready to video tape it all. Not that I'm Korean, but I figure video is video.
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Date: 2011-09-11 09:25 pm (UTC)i would be more scared of your own ignorance, South Korea.
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Date: 2011-09-11 09:59 pm (UTC)Not sure of your experiences in big cities/public transportation, but I'll say this: it can be scary. Quite scary. The reason why most people mind their own business while on buses/subways/etc is that there are shady people on it all the time. Where I live, recently this old lady on the bus observed this younger woman spanking her (the latter's) son, and called her out on it. A couple of stops later it turned out the younger woman had called a few of her friends out who had guns and shot at the bus to try to teach the older woman to 'know her place'.
It's really unfortunate that upstanding citizens are discouraged from doing the right thing because of such possibilities, but yeah, you never know. If you watch the video, you can see that some people tried to shield the old man once the guy started hitting him but of course, ideally, something would've been done earlier. While I too wish things were different, I don't necessarily blame people for being too scared to intervene.
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Date: 2011-09-11 09:27 pm (UTC)I was talking on my cellphone to my mom in japanese, in the subway T_T (never again)
and some students (middle school) started snickering and saying stuff like
"what's this japanese doing in our country, get out, get out, dumb bitch" (yes I can understand that much korean)
Racism in S.Korea is REAL.
If you are going there, beware that you are going to cross lots of racist bullshits.
I'm ASIAN ok? and they still hate me.
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Date: 2011-09-11 09:33 pm (UTC)oooooooh..
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Date: 2011-09-11 09:53 pm (UTC)Discrimination is very painful and frustrating, but in this case I think he did more harm than good for both himself and his cause. By no means should he deported of course, nor do I think charges should be pressed, necessarily.... Like Mr. Hurt said, he has probably been prejudiced against numerous times before without the incidents being made public. I think both sides can learn from this, which is the most important thing at the end of the day.
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Date: 2011-09-11 10:07 pm (UTC)i think a lot of koreans are just not used to or have ever been exposed to other races/cultures, especially the older generation. i know that's no excuse but it's merely a probably cause for the actions we're reading about. still sad.
i never realize how much i took cultural awareness for granted back home in america until i went to korea.
still, that teacher should not have resorted to yelling or physical means although i can see why he did. i think there should be some crash-course korean language and culture for foreign teachers/employees in general. he should've known what "niga" meant.
idk too many circumstances and deep-rooted beliefs to change anyone right now. it'll take some time, but i think korea will slowly become more open too other cultures and races.
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Date: 2011-09-11 10:10 pm (UTC)In Toronto, i once had a lady yell at me to fuck off n im pretty sure it was cuz im Muslim.
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Date: 2011-09-14 03:01 pm (UTC)But, a real response, I agree completely. I think the reason why so many people are outraged is because Americans (at least in the Northern part of the US) are really polite about their racism (I think we invented the 'look once, of shit, they know I'm looking, look away, okay, it's safe, look again' and the 'subtly figure out where you're from, how long you and your family have been here and why' method) so these outward, blunt comments are really rude...? That's my theory.
To be honest, I think it's probably a loud minority of people who would say this. Most people just are out of their element when dealing with other races.
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Date: 2011-09-11 11:46 pm (UTC)Pretty much sums it up for me.
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Date: 2011-09-11 11:53 pm (UTC)Like I said, he could've definitely been offended or insulted, but int he end he made himself look like an ignorant fool.
Racist dude 1 Offended dude 0
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Date: 2011-09-12 12:35 am (UTC)With all the stories one hears about English teachers in Korea, the AIDs/HIV test, etc why did they choose him? A guy with braids and "rocks."
I imagine that the stress of being scrutinized daily is impressive but I can't believe that others would say they understand him. What's a 60 year old guy going to do to him? nag?
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