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Is Internet anonymity a problem? Germany's Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich thinks so. In comments to the German magazine Speigel, he argued that the recent attacks in Norway illustrate the need to force political commentators to identify themselves online. The shooter, Anders Breivik, cited a pseudonymous anti-Muslim blogger in his manifesto.

Meanwhile, Google has decided to adopt a policy for Google+ modeled on Facebook's "real names" rule. This has sparked a fierce debate, with some arguing that the shift to using real names improves the quality of public discussion, while others insist that forcing people to use their real names represents an abuse of power.

There's been a tendency to conflate these two issues, but they're actually quite separate. There are good reasons for some websites to require their users to use their real names, but this policy won't make sense for all websites, and it's foolish and counterproductive for governments to mandate it. The right to free speech includes the right to speak anonymously, and fears of terrorism or other crimes shouldn't be used as a pretext for abridging those rights. Most importantly, there's no reason to think that banning anonymous speech online will deter terrorism or other crimes.


Korea's futile experiment

The best argument against laws requiring websites to use "real name" policies is South Korea's disastrous experiment with requiring websites to collect the real names of users who post content. Freedom House told the story in a recent report:

In 2007, the internet real-name registration system was expanded to apply to any website with more than 100,000 visitors per day. Users are required to verify their identities by submitting their Resident Registration Numbers (RRNs) when they wish to join and contribute to web portals and other major sites. As RRNs are assigned only to Korean citizens at birth, foreign nationals must individually contact webmasters to confirm their identities. This included the video-sharing website YouTube, but the site's U.S.-based parent company, Google, refused to ask its Korean customers for their RRNs. Instead, it has blocked users from uploading content onto YouTube Korea. Users are able to bypass the restriction by changing their location setting to "worldwide." Even the Korean presidential office maintains its YouTube channel in this way.


Trying to quell extremist views by preventing them from being expressed anonymously simply isn't going to work. The Web is a big place; no government on Earth has the reach to completely eliminate anonymous forums from the Internet. Trying to suppress anonymous posting of extremist views just forces them underground, reinforcing extremists' persecution complex and making them even more disconnected from mainstream political debates.

Freedom House argues that prohibiting anonymity infringes free speech rights. UN free speech watchdog Frank La Rue agrees, and has called for the system to be abolished.

After a barrage of criticism, the South Korean government has finally announced plans to abandon the system. This recent decision came in the wake of a major security breach in which information about 35 million users was reportedly stolen from two popular websites. Forcing websites to collect more identifying information about their users doesn't make sites more vulnerable to security breaches, but it increases the damage that such breaches can do (and makes the sites more attractive targets).

The case for anonymity

Even if it were technically feasible, ending online anonymity wouldn't be a good idea. True, anonymity is sometimes used for nefarious purposes. Internet users may be more offensive and belligerent online if they know their statements will never be traced back to their offline identities.

But not everyone seeks anonymity to behave boorishly. Some online speakers want anonymity because they fear their legitimate online speech could trigger real-life retaliation. That could mean a citizen of a repressive regime wanting to criticize the government. It could mean a whistleblower wanting to expose the wrongdoing of her employer. It could be a woman trying to avoid discovery by her abusive ex-husband. The list of reasons people want to speak anonymously is almost endless.

And of course anonymity isn't just important to anonymous speakers. The rest of us also benefit from a public discussion that includes a broader range of voices.

The Korean model wouldn't fly in the United States, where it would be flatly unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has repeatedly said that Americans have a First Amendment right to speak anonymously, and there's every reason to think that applies to the Internet.

But few countries enjoy the United States's robust free speech protections. In those countries, such laws might be constitutional, but at least they face strong resistance. In Germany, for example, a member of an opposition party called Friedrich's proposal "incredibly naive."

One size doesn't fit all

There's a difference between a nationwide ban on anonymous postings and an individual website choosing not to allow them. People who want to express themselves anonymously have a right to do so, but they don't have a right to do it on every site on the Web.

A growing number of blogs have adopted Facebook-based comment systems that disclose commenters' real names. Sometimes this really does improve the quality of comment sections. People tend to be more polite when their names are attached to their comments, though certain kinds of comments (from industry insiders, for instance) may never be made at all on such sites.

But there's no general answer to the anonymity question. Facebook had its origins as a "facebook" on college campuses; requiring real names was an obvious choice for that application, and the site has retained the requirement as it grew. Twitter, in contrast, began as a service for broadcasting text messages to anyone who wanted to follow them. Real names didn't make as much sense for that application, so Twitter doesn't require them. The sites are used by different people for different purposes, and users can choose which model works best for them.

Google's problem seems to be that, in typical Google fashion, it's trying to have Google+ be all things to all people. Google didn't seem to have had a coherent vision of what Google+ was for (other than competing with Facebook), and the site has grown so fast that Google hasn't had time to experiment with a small user base before entering the big leagues.

But there's nothing essentially nefarious about Google's real names policy. Facebook's own real names policy seems to have served the company and its users well, and it makes sense that Google would mimic it. If Google+ and Facebook were the only websites where people could air their thoughts, then real name policies would cause more concern; in a world saturated with anonymous blogs and social networks like Twitter, it's a less crucial issue—so long as real names aren't mandated by government.

But Google could do more to address critics' concerns. For example, Facebook offers search privacy settings that limit who can find your profile in search results. As far as we can tell, Google+ doesn't offer a similar feature. Users who want to use Google+ but don't want their employer, abusive ex-husband, or others to find them online would likely appreciate the ability to make themselves invisible in search results.

Source: arstechnica

Date: 2011-08-15 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
Question: How can these people tell who is using their real name or not? I use nicknames all the time that stem from my legal name, but how would anyone know if those aren't my real name unless I say so myself?

Date: 2011-08-15 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
They can't. It's futile honestly.

Date: 2011-08-15 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opal.livejournal.com
I suppose in SK's case, requiring their ID/RRN numbers to register would tell if someone is using their real name or not. As for everywhere else, unless they also require such identification, then the services can't tell.

Date: 2011-08-15 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzjizz.livejournal.com
In Korea almost every site you register with requires your social security #. That # has to match with your real name. So I think if they ever implemented the real name policy then instead of a "nickname" it would be the real legal name associated with their SS #.

Date: 2011-08-15 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
I'd only seen that on one site and it really weirded me out :S

Date: 2011-08-15 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
Very interesting read. Thank you, OP, for posting :)

Anonymity should not be taken away from the web. Besides, like the article said, the Web is HUGE. Have fun trying to tackle it, government =/

Date: 2011-08-15 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keyllastic.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting, it was interesting! I agree, it's impossible to ban anonymity from the whole web, and as we all know from using legit-looking nicks and switching localization settings it's going to take some really clever ways from governments to put and end to it legally. :/

I hate how many Korean sites require RRNs. I want to stalk my idols and all that. :c

Date: 2011-08-15 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jetaime-pyon.livejournal.com
that is one thing i really hate about registry in korean sites. for email, chat, sharing sites, etc you always require to enter your citizen ID number, and i think it's very unsafe. there is always risk of identity theft and hacking. that's also one of the reasons extreme fans can stalk their favorite celebrities. very scary imho. this system needs to be re-evaluated. and also the main reason i will continue using gmail instead of hanmail. =|

Date: 2011-08-15 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_pinkfish/
I agree with you so much. Facebook asked me to add my address and phone number, no way I'll do that. I'd prefer it if certain things stay private. Now, I trust Facebook as an organization, what I don't trust is people who hack accounts for fun. It happened before on FB. One time they notified me that I had logged in somewhere in the US (I live in the Netherlands and have never been outside of Europe), and if that was me or not. Well, obviously it wasn't and I could automatically change my password and everything, but it was pretty creepy. Thank god they keep IP-logs of that stuff.
Imagine I had all my data on there, social security number, my home address, everything. People could mess my life up so much. They could mess anyone's life up. And people can't be trusted, so it's best to post as few personal information like that as you can on the web. Good hackers can hack any website and server.

Date: 2011-08-16 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinobu-kokoro.livejournal.com
yeah, you can sign up for a hanamil.net email, via Daum.net but of course you need to have a Korean social security number through to get one :X

Date: 2011-08-15 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_pinkfish/
I just wonder if banning will actually solve the problem. People will still be messed up D:

OT; but this is the first time I've seen someone use a Buffy-icon on the actual post, so it was a first time seeing Buffy on the homepage of Omona. :P
A+ OP.

Date: 2011-08-15 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvanilla.livejournal.com
i know it's illegal (and i'm actually a bit scared of posting it here!) but i used a fake korean reg number a couple of times and I was able to create accounts and log in to some korean sites. this just shows that despite the "strict" rules, there are still loopholes and if implemented on the whole web (not just ROK), it would take too much work and effort that's only unnecessary.

Date: 2011-08-15 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 831panda831.livejournal.com
I think the internet should have the right to stay anonymous.
For example, I'm not liking how some sites are asking you to long in with your facebook or twitter account. I think it pries into the persons privacy by asking him to identify themselves. Although I must admit it is sometimes easy to just double click and get verified than it is to sign up for the site.
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Date: 2011-08-15 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 831panda831.livejournal.com
Remember the good old days where almost everywhere on the internet was anonymous or had easy sign up procedures? xD
ah the good old days

Date: 2011-08-15 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kawaiiairbender.livejournal.com
I understand the reasoning behind this, and it could do some good. But it is potentially dangerous.

I would stop commenting/getting on sites tbh. creeps me out. I find google super creepy already I can't imagine leaving a much easier trail around online.

Date: 2011-08-15 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opal.livejournal.com
Google is starting to creep me out as well. Considering how much use it gets on the internet, I've not signed up for anything else for Google other than Gmail, Reader & Youtube.

I understand some of these companies are trying to make people more accountable for what they present online, but the good points of internet anonymity outweighs the bad.

Date: 2011-08-15 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
I never understood the appeal of facebook and I don't get that new Google+ thing either. The only community place I go to is LJ and it's mainly because Fandom (all sorts of) is here.

Date: 2011-08-15 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsuyogari.livejournal.com
i like fb cause i have hundreds of friends from all over the world, so it's nice to have a place where i can casually see what everyone's up to without having to write a gajillion emails. but i also don't share a lot of personal info on it and my profile's pretty hidden to non-friends.

Date: 2011-08-16 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
Fair enough. I really prefer emails though. The fact that people can see what you do, where you are etc in FB weirds me out way too much.

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