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Management agencies show growing displeasure with terrestrial broadcasters holding music programs overseas.

A movement amongst the larger agencies is gathering attention due to the fact that they plan on boycotting any overseas performances starting next year.

The top 3 major broadcasters, KBS, MBC, and SBS have all had various performances overseas centered around the theme, "Hanryu Concert." MBC held a performance in Bangkok and Tokyo during the months of March and May. SBS held a recording of Inkigayo at Osaka, Japan in June. KBS will also be holding Music Bank at the Tokyo Dome in July.

For newcomers such overseas performances may help raise their popularity in the country they are performing at. But as insiders explained, for singers that are already considered "Hanryu Stars," it is more hurtful than helpful.

One of the reasons stated is that when an act is given high exposure during a period when they aren't promoting internationally, that group/singer's popularity may actually dip lower when they do begin official international promotions. To add on, for a singer/group that is already popular overseas, they have more opportunities to show a more colorful and perfected performance during a 2 hour solo concert than an broadcasting company's international music show.

Another issue is that in order for a 1 day performance overseas the talent must spend at least 2 days in that country. In order to do so they must give up on various Korean schedules. If a talent cannot take on their already booked schedules, in the end it is bound to be harmful to them.

One insider stated, "It is pointless to continue participating in these international performances led by the broadcasters while taking such damages. A few agencies have already said they will not be participating in international performances managed by broadcasters. We are starting to think about doing the same."

Meanwhile if this movement becomes popular amongst more agencies, in the end it will be hard for broadcasters to hold overseas events.

Translated: Fizzjizz
Source: Naver News

Date: 2011-08-05 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amazonstorm.livejournal.com
...this isn't going to end well...

Date: 2011-08-05 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holly427jj.livejournal.com
Boycotting actualy makes sense. For the groups/ppl who are already popular having to travel overseas for 2 days just for one performance is just stupid and anoying.

Date: 2011-08-05 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holly427jj.livejournal.com
They could stay in Korea and make the same amount of money etc for half the effort. Not to mention retain sleep and stick with their usual schedule.

Date: 2011-08-05 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimoiikit143.livejournal.com
I agree on everything you said :)

Date: 2011-08-05 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzieeq-luv.livejournal.com
Had a feeling the kbs music bank world tour thing wouldn't make it off the ground.

Oh well..

Date: 2011-08-05 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orenji13.livejournal.com
/off topic.

hey!!! I saw your name on last night PTB streaming. Just want to say that :)

/on topic.
imo, kbs will still held it. it just that the big house company afraid that their concert will not sales if kbs held theirs, since they cater to the same fans and aim to go to the same country/city.

Date: 2011-08-05 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzieeq-luv.livejournal.com
Yay. I made a few random twitter friends off of that. Except the chat moves so dang fast I never motice who was talkin.

But honestly I don't understand why this is news. They should just go or not go. Since when have these companies coming together to boycott another company noot been done before.

They are at least just making it public this time...
Now make it easier for ifans to buy ur music so u can take more of our money pleaasseeE!!!

Date: 2011-08-05 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orenji13.livejournal.com
they can just declined the offer for oversea concert, no need to be so uptight about it.
If you don't want your artist to participate in the broadcast concert, just pull them out. But it doesn't mean that other group/artist should do the same too..

Date: 2011-08-05 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukahoo.livejournal.com
From what I've understood, there could be some unfortunate repercussions from the broadcasting companies, like blacklisting etc. for the artist pulling out. I guess the agencies are trying to pull together so if the broadcasting companies try to penalize one they would have to penalize all. I might be wrong, though.

Date: 2011-08-05 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raiha-kasep.livejournal.com
wae wae??
i personally thought that overseas audiences is more interesting,,especially japan's fans,,
so amusing,,
n they really enjoying the concert,,,
also there's also granpa n granny audience,,
it's so interesting,,
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Re: Better yet,

Date: 2011-08-05 06:31 am (UTC)

Re: Better yet,

Date: 2011-08-05 06:53 am (UTC)

Re: Better yet,

Date: 2011-08-05 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffee-ika.livejournal.com
fucking yes

Re: Better yet,

Date: 2011-08-05 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naj-mahal.livejournal.com
Absolutely.

Date: 2011-08-05 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryukokoro-oppa.livejournal.com
It pretty much makes sense tho. Why should idols have to mess up their schedule for one performance over seas? And yeah, they can continue holding the concert with the groups from smaller agencies..but will they draw in a big enough crowd with the smaller groups.


It had so much complaints when MAMA was going to be held overseas..this..isn't really that shocking tbh.

Date: 2011-08-05 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
Hmm...um...well... =/

I see this. Really. I do. Sense has been made.

Date: 2011-08-05 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallingstarryuu.livejournal.com
The funny thing is most of the idols tend to love meeting international fans.

Date: 2011-08-05 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairyland-not.livejournal.com
i thought idols were invited by the broadcasting stations to come perform and the management can decide whether or not to send them to these performance? it was never a 'you-must-go' scenario given by the broadcasting stations.

so i was slightly confused when the article states that 'A few agencies have already said they will not be participating in international performances managed by broadcasters.' aren't the agencies the one sending them out in the first place?

Date: 2011-08-05 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kendalove.livejournal.com
i think broadcast station does has power over management agency. Back in 2008, because of DBSK no show at KBS Gayo, all SM was banned from Music Bank until Gee was so popular. Some not so popular idols may refuse the offer but why would they??? And broadcast station sure will grab on top star for the sake of ticket selling and rating.

Date: 2011-08-05 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffee-ika.livejournal.com
im sry but what the fuck is this

Date: 2011-08-05 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffee-ika.livejournal.com
i just cant make anything of this article

Date: 2011-08-05 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
Basically, music agencies are planning to not do overseas concerts with music broadcasting companies (i.e., KBS, MBC, SBS).

Reasons:
1) Could get overbearing on international fans outside of official promotion periods (like if the artist goes overseas to perform at these broadcast shows when they are not releasing anything new overseas) <<<- I honestly don't get this one OTL
3) Limitations on individual artist(s)' performances in limited time

That is how I am seeing it. Sorry if this didn't help

Date: 2011-08-06 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffee-ika.livejournal.com
thanks for making it simpler.

lol im wondering why the music agencies aren't giving what the fans what they really want, and im pretty sure them going overseas is what the fans what, why are they denying us the times we get to see our idols? /cry.

Date: 2011-08-06 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
I thought music companies are going overseas anyways to visit international fans anyway. The artists would just have more freedom by going overseas to do personal concerts and fanmeetings than going over overseas to do a 1-hour concert for a music broadcast.

Date: 2011-08-05 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniebsmart.livejournal.com
Guys, think about it.

If some of the artists already go overseas to visit their international fans during fanmeetings/personal concerts/etc., why take time out to do so with broadcasting companies like KBS, MBC, and SBS? The artists can do that with their own space at their own time.

Yes, going overseas on the basis of "my company told me to" is one thing.

However, going overseas on the basis of "this broadcasting company asked me to" is another thing.

That's just how I look at it.

Date: 2011-08-05 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-rach-angel.livejournal.com
You already said what I was thinking, spot on. Seriously, only good things can come out of this like Sleep for Idols.

Date: 2011-08-05 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madelyn93.livejournal.com
as long as the mass concerts aren't taking place in MY countries, by all means, stay in korea!

/gets shot

Date: 2011-08-05 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moronicus-kyla.livejournal.com
I think that they shouldn't do all these concerts at the same time, all within a few months of each other >___> The broadcasting companies are being too competitive and greedy. I think it would be less taxing on them, the idols and the fans if they didn't do their overseas concerts like that. They wouldn't have to compete with one another (more profit yaaay), the idols and their management would be able to plan their scheds better and the fans would have time to save in between concerts and actually go to them (because what's the point of having having 2 Hallyu concerts from the same company in the same country within a few months if those same fans can't pay for the 2nd one? It's a waste of money on the broadcasters :|). Win-Win-Win, yes?

Date: 2011-08-05 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] junhobrand.livejournal.com
Well unless 2PM's gonna be doing a fanmeeting in NY in the near future....this makes no sense to me...maybe if they're going to such places as japan, thailand or say Singapore.....international fans wont lose interest or whatever it is they are saying...and international fans are looser than korean fans when it comes to fandoms...so having more than one artist there would be good.

Date: 2011-08-05 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erbalurbal.livejournal.com
This sounds stupid to me. It's giving them exposure to an audience that they might not have and its giving their international fans a chance to see them. I'm sure those 2 days on variety aren't going to make if break anything in their career. Are they serious?

One of the reasons stated is that when an act is given high exposure during a period when they aren't promoting internationally, that group/singer's popularity may actually dip lower when they do begin official international promotions.

I'm sure one concert isn't considered "high exposure " and this sounds backwards

Date: 2011-08-05 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feel-my-mind.livejournal.com
This makes sense.

We're talking big name artist here, like Tohoshinki, SNSD, Big Bang, 2NE1, 2PM, etc, who already have their concerts and company concerts overseas. Why would, for example, SNSD fly to Japan to do a 4 minute performances, when just toured Japan with 3 hour show and are invited onto every big name music program in Japan. It just doesn't make sense and, its more likely, there helping the network than the otherway around.

There nothing in this article that indicates that companies have any plans to stop their own overseas fanmeets, concerts, appearnces, etc, JUST the ones done through tv. Personally, I much rather see a SME concert than a Music Bank one, so if that what it takes to free up their schedule and get more break time, than why not.

GET JYJ

Date: 2011-08-05 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinn1e.livejournal.com
Broadcast stations with exception of KBS, if all these agencies boycotting you, just wanted to say. You can always get JYJ. Every opportunity count. And power to you because you broadcast it on Televisions. (reaching millions of viewers)

Date: 2011-08-06 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] invisibelle.livejournal.com
I don't think "boycott" is the right word here... it'd be a boycott if they were trying to stop the concerts altogether or something.

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