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South Korea denied three Japanese lawmakers Monday who were planning to visit South Korea.
The three politicians were stopped upon arrival at Seoul's Gimpo International Airport, held at the airport, and forced to return to Japan later in the day.

Yoshitaka Shindo, Tomomi Inada and Masahisa Sato of the Liberal Democratic Party departed from Tokyo's Haneda airport in the morning but finally gave up on entering South Korea in the evening after the Japanese government asked South Korea in vain to reconsider the rejection, Shindo told Japanese reporters accompanying them.

South Korean officials told the three that their visit could "trigger actions that would threaten public safety" and sought their swift return to Japan.



The lawmakers remained unconvinced and called on the officials to provide detailed explanations for denying their entry.

The trio were planning to visit Ulleungdo, the administrative and military base for the South Korean-controlled islets called Dokdo by South Korea and Takeshima by Japan, on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The lawmakers said they do not intend to renew Japan's territorial claims to the disputed islets, but the South Korean government said the refusal was based on the immigration control law.

"Takeshima is Japanese territory," Shindo told South Korean media at the airport. "Our positions are different and we need to talk to each other on the issue." He also warned that Seoul's decision to deny them entry would evolve into a "big diplomatic problem."

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano had expressed Japan's "deep regret" over the unusual step taken by South Korea and said Tokyo was making a last-ditch effort to urge Seoul to let the lawmakers in.

"The lawmakers intended to inspect the island legally and in light of our friendly relations, we very much regret that South Korea took such a measure," Edano said at a press conference.

The Japanese Embassy in Seoul had asked the South Korean government to let the three enter the country.
In Tokyo, Foreign Minister Takeaki Matsumoto summoned South Korean Ambassador to Japan Shin Kak Soo prior to the three lawmakers' decision to return home and conveyed his regret over the move and urged Seoul to reconsider it.

Matsumoto also expressed regret over a visit Monday to the Japanese islets by South Korean Special Affairs Minister Lee Jae Oh and called for the cancellation of a planned South Korean parliamentry committee meeting on the islets on Aug. 12.

The LDP members traveled to Seoul despite South Korea's decision last Friday to slap an entry ban on them on the grounds their safety could not be guaranteed and their visit would negatively affect bilateral relations.

Their plan to visit has ignited a storm of protests in South Korea including flag burning and violent riots in the streets by anti-Japan Koreans.



Demonstrators awaited the lawmakers' arrivals, carrying coffins with their names and pictures on them through the airport. (1:55 and 2:01 in the video)




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Date: 2011-08-03 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aleexnews.livejournal.com
in before arama's xenophobic trolls

Date: 2011-08-03 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shikinluv.livejournal.com
not that omona's that much better at times

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Date: 2011-08-03 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] throw-a-kiss.livejournal.com
Demonstrators awaited the lawmakers' arrivals, carrying coffins with their names and pictures on them through the airport.
Still wtfing over this, that's so messed up.

But have mercy... here we go again. :|
Let's keep it classy.

Date: 2011-08-03 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyappnyappcafe.livejournal.com
Double posting, oh lord...
I figured it was enough that this was posted in arama...
JUDGING U

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Date: 2011-08-03 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aleexnews.livejournal.com
Like i said in arama, this is just beyond immature.. but really what was japan expecting after some of their people have voiced out their rude xenophobic thoughts lately? It's not an excuse for it but both sides have had it coming.

Either way this shit needs to end already, it'd be pretty stupid if some music wave only worsened the relationship between these two countries in the end.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feel-my-mind.livejournal.com
I agree its a bad relationship and both countries have so many faults, but I honestly don't see what one actor slightly know for his bad behavior has to do with the whole country of Japan and the Korean Government needing to take this type of official stances. Its way overkill for that.

What actors say should not have any bearing on the political relationship between two countries.

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Date: 2011-08-03 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nepherefirefly.livejournal.com
this seems beyond overkill, SK ... ... ... coffins? really? and flag burning? that's all a bit much. refusing them and sending them right back home is rude enough

Date: 2011-08-03 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
agree especially with the flag burning.

Date: 2011-08-03 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonghyunf.livejournal.com
what the shit

Date: 2011-08-03 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runandtelldat.livejournal.com
Well, shit.

I wonder if this is going to escalate further.
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Date: 2011-08-03 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilstay.livejournal.com
mte. ): makes me legit sad tbh.

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Date: 2011-08-03 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilstay.livejournal.com
Okay. Let's keep it classy. CLASSY.

Well, first things first, the whole carrying coffins with their names etc, that xenophobic bullshit, is unacceptable. I can not with things like this. Xenophobia,is a issue that has created and continues to create death/abuse/humiliation for the masses, like nothing else, and I just can't.

On the political side of things, I need to know more about these Japanese officials, because you don't go to a country, where you've been banned from because,well, because you've been banned. It will only cause problems, and by problems, I'm not talking about the crazy xenophobe (whose reactions are unacceptable), but political anger, after all, you can't just ignore something like that.

/And just to add, no, this is not connected to Hallyu, because as much of a surprise as it might be for some, Hallyu is not the complete tradition and history of Korea, the same way Jpop isn't for Japan. There is a history between these two countries, that exceeds current popular culture.

Date: 2011-08-03 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdlehurdle.livejournal.com
lol this is such bullshit

Date: 2011-08-03 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
i'm just waiting for omona and arama's offical scientist and sociologist to share with us her/his completely unbiased and non ridiculous 'studies'.

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Date: 2011-08-03 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flu-n-c.livejournal.com
I know it's not completely related but the whole place blew up when Sosuka slammed Hallyu wave and everyone called him a nationalist/racist etc and now everything has to be kept civil and classy?

SK is not completely innocent and they're in Japan for one thing and one thing only , that is money . They couldn't give a rats ass about Japan other than that and it's completely evident .

I don't see why some Japs wouldn't be angry when theres so much double standard

Date: 2011-08-03 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feel-my-mind.livejournal.com
You do know the history behind the word "Japs" and that its a ethical slur, right?

If you don't, please educate yourself and refrain from using it in the future.

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Date: 2011-08-03 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
i really think if yall set the tone in the first two pages to be a calm and rational environment it should be alright lawl. but anyway i still don't get why sk didn't let them in but let's hope things stay diplomatic between the two

Date: 2011-08-03 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaich0u.livejournal.com
i still don't get why sk didn't let them in
Given how SK sees Dokdo as South Korean territory, Japanese lawmakers would have no business being there. Even if they aren't actively working during their visit, I imagine it'd give the impression that SK was conceding a part of their claim in Dokdo by allowing the "true owners" to carry out administrative duties there.

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Date: 2011-08-03 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsuyogari.livejournal.com
always about those damn rocks, huh.

Date: 2011-08-03 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] consequences.livejournal.com
seriously laughed out loud at this. win.

Date: 2011-08-03 04:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-03 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocketjenny.livejournal.com
oh lordy, I wonder who's seabornestyle equivalent in Omana.
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Image (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/safarimenuclosetab.gif/)

i hope that chick gets banned soon

Date: 2011-08-03 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feel-my-mind.livejournal.com
Both counties need to change. That is pretty much all that needs to be said. But, its understandable that the history makes it harder said than done. Still, how hard is it to ask for some progress.

I hope that this is some misunderstanding or something though. It just doesn't make sense.

Date: 2011-08-03 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naj-mahal.livejournal.com
Ugh. This is getting ridiculous.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzieeq-luv.livejournal.com
What I don't get is if they were told not to come?
Why did they come anyway... Seems like they got the reaction they wanted..

Very unfortunate situation.

Date: 2011-08-03 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k0dama.livejournal.com
Yep, that was the whole point.
They went to draw attention to themselves in Japan.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaich0u.livejournal.com
I was sort of thinking SK was being a bit unreasonable until I read:
The trio were planning to visit Ulleungdo, the administrative and military base for the South Korean-controlled islets called Dokdo by South Korea.

Dokdo and the East Sea are sensitive topics. I think most people here (and similar communities) aren't going to understand.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raviolikenshin.livejournal.com
ok that makes more sense to me thanks for the helpful info ^^

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Date: 2011-08-03 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turielen.livejournal.com
... I read "lawnmowers".

Still WTF news, though.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seabornestyle.livejournal.com
I guess it should be expected that this community would find a way to ignore the article and turn this into another Japan-bashing post. Supporting Korean artists is one thing but defending racist actions like the ones in that video is just disgusting.

Anyway I hope Korea realizes that this type of behavior (allowed and even passively supported by the government) is only making them look worse on a global level. They're digging their own reputation's grave with these sorts of incidents. America will not be pleased (and China is already not impressed with South Korea based on a lot of research I've read).

Date: 2011-08-03 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oppa-did-meanit.livejournal.com
China is also not impressed with freedom and democracy. I'm sure South Korea will make due without their approval.

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Date: 2011-08-03 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maple88.livejournal.com
I think both Korea and Japan will need a little longer to get over their bad blood from the beginning of the 20th century, esp for Koreans who still hold resentment towards the Japanese for invading and controlling them.

And the East Sea and sovereignty over those (admittedly obnoxiously small) islands is a sore topic for Korea and Japan should wait, or make an official declaration that they don't want to be there, or that they want to declare war over them or something. I don't think Korea will let them in if they just say, "oh yeah, let us through we're not here to cause harm."

I agree with the Korean government to not let them in because those politicians were in danger of getting mobbed by angry people too.

Where's my tinfoil hat?

Date: 2011-08-03 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hzuki.livejournal.com
I smell a conspiracy and I'm not just being paranoid.
It just seems like to me that this was what the three of them were aiming for in the first place, for this to blow up completely and get splashed on all the newspapers and become a giant ~**controversy**~.

Under your bed~

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