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KBS Jeju Says: “We Cancelled JYJ Because SNSD and f(x) Are More Effective.”

“In viewing the program as a whole, Girls Generation and F(x)’s appearances are effective.”

On the cancellation of appearance by JYJ from the Jeju 7 Wonders KBS Special Live Broadcast, KBS Jeju Broadcast Agency (hereafter “KBS Jeju”) revealed its position.

The KBS Jeju affiliate who is producing this broadcast said in the telephone conversation with MyDaily on the afternoon of the 17th relayed that due to the appearance of Girls Generation and F(x) the cancellation of JYJ’s appearance had taken place: “We were propelling the appearance of Girls Generation and F(x) from before but they fell through due to scheduling problems. But at the end of the preparation stages for the broadcast, they said that they could appear. The duty of our broadcast station from the perspective of culture is to introduce many stars to the region’s society. In viewing the program as a whole, we considered just what is effective.”

The affiliate continued: “To the side of JYJ, we respectfully revealed our apologetic position.” He explained further “The group SpringSummerFallWinter will appear as planned. But in this broadcast, aside from SpringSummerFallWinter, Girls Generation, and F(x), other artists such as popera singers are planned to appear.”

The local government of Jeju, who is one of the hosts of the event, revealed through an affiliate on the telephone: “We do not know. What kind of power or abilities would we have to procure a celebrity. It is something that KBS Jeju pursued.”

Further, they relayed that they felt they were falsely charged: “Due to this situation, there are posts of protests raining on the bulletin of Jeju’s local government. But this is not something that we have done.” In particular, Jeju worried about there being potential ill effects on the voting for Jeju as one of the 7 Wonders of the World.

Before this, JYJ’s agency C-JeS Entertainment had revealed through its official webpage on the 16th: “JYJ had been looking forward to appearing on the 20th on the special broadcast as honorary ambassadors for Jeju as a member of the 7 Wonders. But today we suddenly received the notification of cancellation. We have currently requested the precise reason for the sudden cancellation of appearance to the hosts. We ask for your understanding on our sudden announcement of cancellation to the fans who had been waiting. We will soon make an additional announcement after confirming the situation.”

C-JeS’s official announcement regarding Jeju (C-JeS will take legal action)

Hello

This is C-JeS Entertainment.

We are announcing our stance on KBS’s one-sided cancellation notification of JYJ’s appearance in KBS Jeju N7W Special Promotional Program.

Mid-April, through a phone call with the Jeju provincial government, we received their wish to appoint JYJ as an honorary ambassador to promoting Jeju’s selection in New 7 Wonders. The date in which we officially received the roles of an honorary ambassador and their reason for selecting JYJ through e-mail was April 26th.

However, it is customary for honorary ambassadors to begin their promotional activities after being appointed through an appointment ceremony and official press statements are released. Because the time in which we received the offer was during JYJ’s World Tour, we first politely declined their initial offer because we would be unable to hold an appointment ceremony.

However, the local government of Jeju-do stated that they were preparing a special broadcast program in July and that because they are preparing an appointment ceremony to be held then, they proposed that JYJ begin their promotional activities [before the ceremony] since they urgently needed publicity. JYJ, as Korea’s artist, accepted the position of honorary ambassador with responsibility in letting the world know of the domestic brand and Jeju’s 7 Wonders.

On May 4th, the Jeju local government notified the appointment of new honorary ambassadors through the press and [JYJ] officially began their promotional activities. JYJ, who was at the time holding their world tour, promoted Jeju Island and actively cooperated by filming videos encouraging on-line and phone voting as honorary ambassadors. Furthermore, last May, Jeju local government sent us a thank you mail stating that Jeju N7W were being publicized nationwide thanks to JYJ. In addition, the special broadcast program was decided to be held on July 20th, and JYJ was supposed to perform two songs and be officially appointed as honorary ambassadors.

However, on July 16th, 4 days before the concert, we received sudden one-sided notification that our appearance on television has been canceled. The reason was, “if JYJ appears, the program itself may not air,” a final notification without specific explanation. Today, although KBS claimed to have apologized to JYJ, we have only received one-sided cancellation and never an apology with official explanation.

We believe the broadcasting networks have the right to decide on the people that appear for the sake of their program. However, as this program was a special program wishing for Jeju’s appointment as the New 7 Wonders, and since JYJ has been selected as the official honorary ambassadors and have been holding promotional activities for three months, we insist on an official position from Jeju government and KBS regarding this one-sided cancellation notice.

Furthermore, C-JeS Entertainment will report the organizer, who has one-sidedly (without previous consultation with the artist) sent us a cancellation notice 4 days before the performance to the Fair Trade Commission, and will take legal action against this incident where the party promised JYJ a special broadcast program on their appointment ceremony, but deceived the artist by one-sidedly cancelling their appointment ceremony after using them for promotional activities.

Finally, JYJ’s current lawsuit is a civil suit regarding unfair contract with their previous management company, and is in reality, a weak artist’s fight against the unjust nature of exclusive contract, and thus is not a lawsuit which causes social problems or has moral issues. Furthermore, the courts have already decided that while this lawsuit is undergoing, JYJ has the right to resume their activities as free artists.

Most importantly, we apologize to JYJ fans who have received great shock through this unacceptable situation, andregardless of this situation, JYJ will continue to support promoting Jeju’s N7W as Korean citizens.

Thank You.

Eric of Shinhwa Tweets About JYJ’s Situation with Jeju




Fan: Eric Oppa, what do you think about the things that have happened to JYJ Oppas? What do you think about the things that SM is doing right now, also?

Eric:@Fan Erm… I’ll just tell you that things that are very much beyond fans’ thoughts/imagination are happening on this front (the Korean Entertainment industry). You have to win and survive. There is no way other than that.

Junsu tweets about the current situation

@0101xiahtic: Climbing one mountain after another… but there is yet another.

@0101xiahtic: Why are you guys sorry… we’re the sorry ones.

Zuo Qi Bo’s Statement On Remake Of ‘Wasurenaide’‏



Hi everyone, I am Zuo Qi Bo. Please give me some time to clarify this whole matter.

Regarding the leaking of the song ‘Redundant’ on internet and the causing of TVXQ’s fans unhappiness over the remake of the Japanese song ‘Wasurenaide’ written and composed by Korean singer Kim Jaejoong, I would like to deeply apologise.

I do know that this song carries a lot of your stories and memories and believed that I will join in your big united loving family, because I am the same as you all, liking Kim Jaejoong, liking his talent and vocal. Kim Jaejoong is also my idol and role model at the same time. Therefore we will cautiously settle the problems for this song ‘Redundant’, and we will eagerly try to reach an angreement with Kim Jaejoong himself. Cassiopeia, please be at ease! This song release will currently be freezed and would not be released or sang until an agreement is reached.

Additionally, with regards to ‘Redundant’.
Composed by: Kim Jaejoong
Remake Lyrics by: Zuo Qi Bo/Wei Su
OT: Wasureinaide
This incident is what I did not predicted to be and lack of consideration for the feelings of TVXQ’s fans. I would like to apologise again!!! Hopefully I can receive forgiveness!!!

On the other hand, this incident has nothing to do with Tian Yu Media, Avex Music (Avex China) and SM Entertainment, it is not a resale of Jaejoong’s song by Avex, as said by everyone.
Hoped that everyone can understand. Please don’t blame the unrelated company, you can blame me for everything. Because I chose to sing this song and thus I should be the one to bear the responsibility.
We will assure the composer’s rights and cherish the copyrights!
I am very sorry for the inconvenience caused and troubles! I lacked the consideration when doing things! Sorry!
Thank you! Hopefully everyone can give me a chance! Please don’t pursue this matter again!

Jaejoong’s Tweet Update

@mjjeje: "Wasurenaide" is not my song nor anyone's song. It is a song of Tohoshinki as 5 people. That's why I don't want it to sing it alone or as 3.


 CEO Max Twitter Updates

Please read from bottom to top.


I don't have anything to do with it, and I don't know anything about it. But there are those who send me childish complains anonymously, selfishly misunderstanding the situation. It sucks, and also lame... This time, we are the victims. Thanks for your understanding.

YES! RT @kana_tw5: @masatomatsuura Everyone was blaming avex without knowing anything. I also thought a little bit "Maybe avex is wrong", and I am very sorry about that(>_<) I really apologize.. I think everyone should be thinking like that(T_T)

To tell the truth, this story is as a bolt from the blue. I don't know why I have to hear complains about the things which they did without permission. I will take necessary actions in order to protect all the artists. I did not know anything about this case, but I will deal with this issue. For the time being, this is my word.

RT @masatomatsuura: RT @abendjpn: Recently, a Chinese singer covered Jaejoong's song. I became interested, so I investigated the case. I found out that the Chinese singer who has no relation whatsoever with company a (T/N: avex) translated and sung the song without permission. As usual, the people in that country is interesting. The video in YouTube has a different logo (of a company), they are stealing and it is really tricky.

 
Female Singer Co-Releasing with Roy’s Single Writes About Jaejoong and Wasurenaide 



I hope there will not be a scandal.
We’ll wait for 7.18 (T/N: The official date of Roy and her single’s release).
Because you need to know, it’s very difficult to make music! Very difficult! The definition of “original work” is not just self-composed, self-written! Even if the song was not written by us, we cherish it too, every word every line, even the album! What we sang belongs to us, what we’re trying to express is also ourselves! Hope everyone can think positively, isn’t that better?”

Original Wasurenaide



Remake Wasurenaide



Source: JYJ3 1, 2, 3, 45 & 6SYC, OneTVXQ, Eric's Twitter, Jaejoong's Twitter, Junsu's Twitter, and @yunhosmiley emotionalteaspoon22 ceskjj2
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Date: 2011-07-17 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yunhotin.livejournal.com
you might want to add this too: http://jyj3.net/2011/07/17/trans-female-singer-co-releasing-with-roys-single-writes-about-jaejoong-and-wasurenaide/

Date: 2011-07-17 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilstay.livejournal.com
*sigh* I like idol drama, but this shit is endless. I also want to know, does Jaejoong's tweet mean, that he doesn't mind another artist, unrelated to TVZQ singing his song, or he doesn't want ANYONE to sing his song, unless it's TVXQ as 5.

/On the bright side, Eunhyuk is now following Junsu on twitter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2011-07-17 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lei-hime.livejournal.com
I think he meant he doesn't want anybody beside TVXQ as 5 to sing this song.

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Date: 2011-07-17 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/reminisce__/
=/ Crap, I spent over an hour making a post about just the Wasurenaide drama, including embedded videos and original pictures of translations...

Date: 2011-07-17 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/reminisce__/
Would it be possible if you could consolidate my post with yours then? I don't have any new news, but I organized it in a pretty way so that there were links to both the original song and Wasurenaide, along with all the original screencaps of the nugu's Chinese statements.

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Date: 2011-07-17 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baboboy.livejournal.com
KBS is just digging themselves a deeper hole with all these lies.
First they said they had nothing to do with JYJ appearing and now this...ide.

MTE

Date: 2011-07-17 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rawrboysmode.livejournal.com
yo all this drama lama is driving me up the wall these days... D:

Image

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Date: 2011-07-17 04:37 pm (UTC)
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Awww OP why not include Junho's tweet to Junsu???

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Date: 2011-07-17 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/reminisce__/
This is a wonderful thing in hindsight - how dumb could Avex and SM Entertainment and KBS be? Well, they definitely showed us here.

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Date: 2011-07-17 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
"@mjjeje: "Wasurenaide" is not my song nor anyone's song. It is a song of Tohoshinki as 5 people. That's why I don't want it to sing it alone or as 3."

OMG, JAEJOONG, YOU FLAWLESS BOY, DON'T MAKE ME CRY NOW.

Date: 2011-07-17 04:40 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-07-17 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rawrboysmode.livejournal.com
awwwwwwww <333

Image (http://fuckyeahdbskgifs.tumblr.com/post/6449188248)

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Date: 2011-07-17 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilstay.livejournal.com
'The definition of “original work” is not just self-composed, self-written! Even if the song was not written by us, we cherish it too, every word every line, even the album! What we sang belongs to us'.

I can only imagine, that this girl will get so much shit for this but I have to say, I agree with her sentiments in general. I always felt that when a person sings a song written by someone else, it doesn't mean that they don't understand the words of the song or that they don't have their own feelings for the songs that they sing. It's like reading, you don't write the book but when you read it, each word, moment and character becomes someone you know as much and even better than the author, through your own experiences.

That aside, if the song was acquired illegally, then it's not okay to sing the words someone else's words, because the words were created by someone with a specific intention, so if Jaejoong didn't agree to have his song sang by anyone else, then it's defiantly wrong.

Date: 2011-07-17 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/reminisce__/
I think it's very sweet that you say this in defense of her, (which shows how compassionate Cassiopeia can be, I've been seeing similar comments all over Youtube and blogs), but this is an entirely different situation.

When Roy said that "Therefore we will cautiously settle the problems for this song ‘Redundant’, and we will eagerly try to reach an angreement with Kim Jaejoong himself." You have to read inbetween the lines and the sweet words. Why would they need to reach an agreement with Jaejoong, if they supposedly legally acquired the song in the first place? The thing is, you can judge from Jaejoong's reaction that they didn't, and the girl singer is very aware of that, so she's making a pity argument that "even if it's not their song, they feel just as much for it, so just let us sing it and not get mad at us, okay?"

This has nothing to do with what they feel, honestly - artistic integrity and copyright is designed to protect the works and rights of someone's creation from being misappropriated by someone else for their own usage, without consent.

To say that is just another way to brush over the reality that Avex and them worked together to use the song, and deemed it unnecessary to even ask the original songwriter for permission in the first place. That is an insult - it's like saying that you will republish someone's book and just rewrite all the words, and then call it your own because you loved the book and the original author so much, so this is a highest form of respect. This is equivalent to stealing.

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Date: 2011-07-17 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryukokoro-oppa.livejournal.com
Wait wait wait I'm so confused. So instead of JYJ as ambassadors they just used them for votes and aren't going to really appoint them. I /just/ woke up my tlist is in an uproar..and I have no idea what's going on...

Date: 2011-07-17 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the3rdjester.livejournal.com
I am so pissed of right now...
JYJ do not deserve all this sh*t! >:(((
And poor Jaejoong... I cannot imagine how he must feel right now... But still, he's promoting Jeju island, even though KBS turned its back on them...
I'm already sick of all this drama...
I wonder how much more pressure those boys can get... :(((

Date: 2011-07-17 04:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-07-17 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/reminisce__/
lmao please ignore my original comment then - I just embedded the Wasurenaide live as a reply to your first comment <3

Date: 2011-07-17 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pumpkin-bread.livejournal.com
Eric is flawless and this entire post is breaking my heart.

When I saw Junsu's tweet last night I about died, I wanted to hug him forever. ;-;

And Wasurenaide...agh. I just can't deal. My fan rage is truly rising at an alarming pace.

Date: 2011-07-17 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pumpkin-bread.livejournal.com
I wonder how hard it would be for JYJ to set up performances via youtube the way Epik High did when they launched their website. Granted, they wouldn't be live performances but maybe they would be something? And maybe more personal than a live stage anyway?
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Date: 2011-07-17 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pekojan.livejournal.com
I'm very sorry to say this but right now SNSD is the most popular idol groups in the whole Korea, more than Big Bang and even more than DBSK as 5. Their fanbase is not as big as DBSK's but they are more favoured by public in general. Ask anyone who is Korean or is living in Korea right now then you will know it's true or not.

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Date: 2011-07-17 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] very-pinku.livejournal.com
ugh wth...so much drama and confusion.
And for Wasurenaide, it's nice that JJ said that song is sung by the 5 of them.

I really hope everything works out for JYJ.

Date: 2011-07-17 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orenji13.livejournal.com
I can't with the female singer statement...

Because it's hard to make music that you had to respect the one who make the original -___-

Good job CJeS.. You do need them, but don't let your artists to be step down like this.

Date: 2011-07-17 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyminstrel.livejournal.com
so depressing. hyuksu plz resurface

Date: 2011-07-17 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jela-ow.livejournal.com
what in the fucking hell KBS? you cancelled on JYJ because SNSD and f(x) confirmed attendance? this doesn't make what you did reasonable, it makes you look so fucking unprofessional. I can't believe this. KBS is a legit and renowned broadcasting company and they pull this stunt. srsly wtf. If SM is behind is, man, that company and whoever runs it now is unbelievable and incredibly manipulative. this drama saga is neverending and it must kill the fans to for their idols to be treated so callously publicly. That said, JYJ are so sweet and perfect. I'm not even a fan but these boys! So precious!

Date: 2011-07-17 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pumpkin-bread.livejournal.com
As both a Shinhwa fan and a JYJ fan, though it pains me to see them put in these situations, I have faith that they will be okay as long as they don't give up, the way Shinhwa didn't. My biggest fear is that constantly getting knocked down will break them, or one of them, and cause the whole thing to unravel.

They have so many good things going for them right now. It looks like CJes is giving them a lot of artistic freedom (what with them having purchased a recording studio for themselves) as well as all the songs they've written since leaving SM. I enjoy that. Even if they're never as huge as the current TVXQ (Homin) due to exposure, I would love to see them continue to work and bring me music.

;-; sorry giant post is giant. i just have a lot of feelings /insert mean girls gif.

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Date: 2011-07-17 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitter-sweet05.livejournal.com
It's gonna be great to see the Cassie reactions when DBSK songs inevitably continue to get remade down the road. Precious Oppas' songs aren't immune to how the music industry works, and they will eventually end up getting covered by other groups.

Date: 2011-07-17 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xfactorglory.livejournal.com
as long as permissions asked and given, no1curr

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Date: 2011-07-17 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baboboy.livejournal.com
Even if the song was not written by us, we cherish it too, every word every line, even the album! What we sang belongs to us, what we’re trying to express is also ourselves!

Date: 2011-07-17 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdofpray09.livejournal.com
I had the same reaction. If I had felt any inclination to feel sympathetic towards that singer at all, it's completely gone now.

Date: 2011-07-17 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maple88.livejournal.com
I'm still so angry.
How are SNSD and f(x) more effective, if they aren't the reason why there's people flying from Japan to go see them in Jeju? How are they more effective if the votes for Jeju N7W have been going up, not only from Korea, but from all over the world, because JYJ is promoting it (I voted, and my friends did too and I convinced my family to vote for Jeju too)?

And that BS that if JYJ appeared, the program might not air– THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU SCHEDULE THEM TO APPEAR IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU MORON?

Jae bb, thanks for keeping it classy. I really wanna give you a hug right now. Or maybe I'm the one who needs a hug.

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