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Popular singer Yim Jae-beom's stage performance sporting a Nazi uniform has become the subject of disputes on the Internet.

Chin Jung-kwon, a progressive culture critic and composer Kim Hyung-suk have publicly exchanged verbal salvos on Twitter about the appropriateness of Yim's wearing a Nazi uniform on stage.

Yim, who rose to stardom for his appearance on the TV show "I Am a Singer" performed wearing a Nazi military uniform for his concert at Seoul's Olympic Park gymnasium on June 25 and 26.

Yim wore the outfit when singing "Paradom", a song about the tragedies of people living underground in a world devastated by nuclear war. Yim took off the Nazi uniform toward the end of the performance to send a message against war.

During the performance, he reportedly yelled: "No Hitler", "Htiler is dead", and "Heil freedom" to express opposition to dictatorship.


The argument began between the nation's two cultural figures when Chin tweeted Wednesday that singer Yim's performance was not a subject of moral criticism but rather an aesthetic one. Chin said it was in complete "poor taste".

Kim retorted saying that Chin's comment was a generalization of an individual's performance as totalitarianism when it should be seen as freedom of expression. "You should watch the performance first before discussing the aesthetic level of it or speaking about morality", Kim said to Chin via Twitter.

The war of words between the two figures spread to the wider public. Internet users also joined the debate, some saying Yim's performance was a glorification of the Nazis and others saying it was the rocker's expression of freedom.

Yim Jae-beom has remained silent on the issue. "The fact that Yim hasn't said anything about it means he doesn't consider the issue serious enough to react. It's just a matter of different perspectives", Yim's agency said.

source: koreatimes

Date: 2011-07-02 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noir-shiroi.livejournal.com
Awkward. He obviously had a positive message but the methods he chose to express it are definitely not the best.

Date: 2011-07-02 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bolingi-aii.livejournal.com
How can they argue that he's glorifying Nazis if his whole piece was in protest of what they stood for? I thought the performance was the exact opposite until I read the entire article, I agree with Mr. Kim maybe if they knew what the piece was about or at least watchedf it and received its message they might have a different opinion.

I never am one to sacrifice any thread of morality for "the sake of art" but this performance and its need for Mr. Yim to don a Nazi uniform completely differs from lets say, a college kid needing a costume for this weekends Halloween party. I hope he's a lot more aware about the reasons behind the debate than Mr.Kim is giving him credit for.

Date: 2011-07-02 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mentality34.livejournal.com
your first sentence is mte. its like saying x = 1 and so therefore x = 2.

Date: 2011-07-02 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-perfect-shade.livejournal.com
that's nice and all but i still think it invites controversy to wear a nazi uniform.

Date: 2011-07-02 04:25 am (UTC)

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From: [identity profile] bolingi-aii.livejournal.com
wtf, who even authorized that?
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Date: 2011-07-02 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopthedisco.livejournal.com
war

what is it good for

Date: 2011-07-02 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kanghodong.livejournal.com
absolutely nothing uhhhh!

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Date: 2011-07-02 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
Obviously not a good way to go about this but I can kind of see where he was going.


Still gross though

Date: 2011-07-02 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adropofcitrus.livejournal.com
dude, I think his message was loud and clear, especially with the ending and how he was yelling "No Hitler", "Hitler is dead", and "Heil freedom."

smh at people who see something like this and automatically assume that said person is "supporting" dictatorship and what have you.

Date: 2011-07-02 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightspeedsquid.livejournal.com
yikes... at least his message was a positive one?

Date: 2011-07-02 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyuhyunss.livejournal.com
a little extreme, but ok?

Date: 2011-07-02 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideservestars.livejournal.com
WHO DOES THIS BITCH THINK HE IS. UM WELL I AM VERY OFFENDED, PLEASE REFER TO THE CAPS.

Date: 2011-07-02 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notyourgeisha.livejournal.com
Very OT but this reminds me of Xmen which I watched last weekend and how attractive Magneto oppa was.

lol.

Date: 2011-07-02 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenixstar.livejournal.com
Magneto and oppa in one sentence made me choke on my bagel.

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ia, oppa was lookin so good

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Date: 2011-07-02 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valieleen.livejournal.com
Honestly? I find it incredibly distasteful. Sure, he had a positive message in mind, I'll give him that. But really, what was the point of it? Hitler is dead? Well no shit, Sherlock. There are other dictators still ruling in some places of this earth. Maybe it would've been wiser to bring attention to those problems.

Date: 2011-07-02 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annhh.livejournal.com
Exactly.

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Date: 2011-07-02 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atarashiiyoake.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what to think of this. In a way I applaud him standing up against dictatorship, but he could have done it in a less controversial way.

Also, my grandparents were all WWII-survivors, so really anything nazi-related is enough to make me go apeshit.

Sue's mom would not approve of this.

Date: 2011-07-03 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaded-skys.livejournal.com
Agreed. My grandparents met in the army, and I get emotional over anything WWII, and really, anything like this is in poor taste.

Date: 2011-07-02 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
The message seemed pretty clear to me while reading the article. Either people who complain and all don't know how to read, either they just like to troll (and then please, troll on another subject will you?).

It isn't a very smart way to express itself, but there's no need to go all crazy about it either. Bad taste that's all. The content in itself wasn't nazi and that's the most important part (at least to me).

Date: 2011-07-02 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yolleh.livejournal.com
People can do the worst of things with the best of intentions.

Date: 2011-07-02 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baka-tenshi.livejournal.com
oh god why.

Date: 2011-07-02 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookiedealer.livejournal.com
He could've worn any other uniform and it would've still gotten the message across. A Nazi uniform is always problematic.

Date: 2011-07-02 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nandexdame.livejournal.com
Wow, ~ironically~ wearing a Nazi uniform. Smart idea. So what if he had a good message, he chose a thoughtless and shallow way to express it. Nazi get up and "Hitler is dead" sounds like what a try hard high school student would do.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unreal.livejournal.com
There are other ways to send your message against war. No need for a Nazi outfit. I find it pretty discraseful.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 831panda831.livejournal.com
Ok this subject has came up a lot of times for me because a lot of people in jrock wear these types of uniforms and stuff.
Heres the article I remember: http://aramatheydidnt.livejournal.com/1929684.html
there are some really good points made in the comments in this article.

but anyway , my opinion, uniforms and especially military uniforms look alike , this may look like a Nazi uniform but it might now be one , I'm not educated on how a Nazi uniform looks like but I sure as hell know I've seen similar suits for militaries other than that.
But honestly , this bad taste if he really was going for the Nazi look.

the japanese group eventually apologized because they were called out on it by a jewish organization : http://aramatheydidnt.livejournal.com/1933398.html

Date: 2011-07-02 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 831panda831.livejournal.com
oh shit i just checked and he really is wearing the Nazi uniform.

Ok then WTF , so stupid , I really hope this guy freaking apologizes.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goshipgurl.livejournal.com
cant wait till the german media hears this, they'll be like "omg what has he done he should get punished!!!!111!!"

Date: 2011-07-02 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] like-a-melodie.livejournal.com
100%agree and they'll make him look like he's dumb - nothing new, german media sucks.

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Date: 2011-07-02 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annhh.livejournal.com
I really really hope people get better educated about these matters in SK. He obviously doesn't know the history and truth behind, he shouldn't be playing with this.

Date: 2011-07-02 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloody-story.livejournal.com
I think Korean haven't been hurt by nazi as much as European and all, so that's why they probably don't understand how wrong people can see those kind of stuff...
It was a clumsy way to praise freedom lol

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