
I’m not saying this because I’m from England. I truly believe that England will be the ‘key’ to Girls’ Generation’s attempt to succeed interna[tiona]lly. First of all, it is easier to enter its market than the American one, and it is possible to use England as a launching pad to spread to America and the rest of the world.
Last week, I saw one of the early music videos of Girls’ Generation. I thought that they had changed immensely over the years. At the same time, I also thought that they had not actually changed that much. Maybe they had just naturally matured over time. [..]**Comments unrelated to Girls’ Generation omitted**
Regardless, the truth is that Girls’ Generation has totally matured. They give off the feel of professional entertainers now. I like listening and watching Girls’ Generation’s songs and performances. I cannot help but admit that I enjoy watching 9 charming girls dance and sing. Maybe that is why I am not particularly interested in Super Junior. My daughter, though, also shows a bigger reaction when Girls’ Generation comes out than when Super Junior does. Maybe it is because Girls’ Generation is objectively more charming.
Girls’ Generation now has fans from all over Europe. The Paris K-pop concert was a very interesting event. I was sometimes skeptical about Korean reports of the “Korean wave”. It was reported that the Wonder Girls and Rain successfully entered the American market, but, in reality, the majority of the attention they received were from Asians.
However, the SM tour this time around was different. A considerable number of French and European fans gathered in Paris to see SM artists, and this was proof that Korean culture’s effect on other countries had grown. Although there was the language barrier, the strength of Korean pop music was enough to overcome it.
I do not think that an Asian pop group has had global success before. It is possible for groups to make profits performing in various countries while not being internationally successful. The Wonder Girls have performed here and there, but everyday people walking down the streets in America’s major cities do not know who they are.
Girls’ Generation has to overcome this same problem, but they have a higher chance of success than the Wonder Girls. The Wonder Girls’ entry into the American market seemed like a desperate attempt to me. I am not sure why, but that is the feeling that I got. The Wonder Girls behaved as if they had risked it all on their entry in to the American market and it seems like they have completely forgotten about Korea. They definitely made a mistake. That is because, regardless of whatever activities they have in other countries, they cannot forget about Korea, their “home base”. And we know very well the Wonder Girls’ situation after returning from America.
And the fact that they wanted to hold an American tour with just one song did not bring good results. “Nobody” is not a bad song, but it was not quite strong enough to have staying power. It is inevitable that songs like that will become boring quickly. On the other hand, Girls’ Generation brought several hit songs to Paris and showed their charms to fans from a wide variety of cultural backgrounds.
If groups, including Girls’ Generation, want international success, the correct way to do it is Europe -> England -> America. I will say it again, but I am not saying this because I am a biased Englishman. I just want to stress the fact that there is a statistically higher chance of success in America after succeeded in England. Whether that has anything to do with it or not, the music industry’s core is America, so succeeding there means being recognized as a “global band”.
Succeeding in France is not very helpful. The French market is very limited and not recognized on an international scale. It has improved, but the French market’s overall quality continues to be lacking.
If Girls’ Generation is able to sing songs in English, their chances of success will increase even more. However, it is very difficult to succeed while singing a different language. Although people in France, Germany, and Spain are used to listening to foreign music, they normally listen to English songs.
Meanwhile, people in England and America are not used to songs in foreign languages. It is not something I am proud of, but that is the reality of English and American pop culture.
As far as I can remember, there have only been 3-4 non-English songs in the past 30 years that have become hits. On top of that, you can only expect one-hit wonders when singing in a foreign language. You have to sing in English to continue to be recognized in the music industry. Thus, I think that groups should first conquer England’s smaller and easier market.
If you decide to enter the U.S. market without previously making yourself known, you will have to worker harder and be able to handle a more difficult schedule to make yourself known. The chances of success diminish greatly, too. Artists who are interested in performing internationally have to realize this. If you succeed in England and you are lucky, you could become famous in America before even landing there. Even if you are not lucky, you have already established a base camp from where you can seize the world’s largest market.
You can stay in England for a few weeks and make TV and radio appearances as well as hold showcases and concerts before returning to Korea and resuming activities there. If you succeed in England, people across Europe and other countries will naturally become more aware of you. You can also make a splash in the U.S. market, which is your ultimate goal.
Girls’ Generation is a charming girl group that has the talents and skills needed to succeed internationally. I also believe that this is an okay time. I look forward to seeing Girls’ Generation becoming the first Asian group to become a global sensation.
TL;DR
-Key to international market: England (Europe) then U.S.
-Major entry problem: language barrier, must sing in English
-Only Asians like WG/Rain
-WG "desperate" attempt failed; tried to cruise on one-hit-wonder Nobody; abandon Korean fanbase
-SNSD may have more varied appeal/songs; should promote in England/Europe without prolonged hiatus from Korea
-SNSD possibly first Asian group global sensation
Soshified Translated by: jreddevil07@soshified.com
Edited by: michaelroni@soshified.com
Source: Nate - original article by John Duerden, soccer columnist for The Guardian, ESPN, The New York Times, Sports Illustrated, MSN.Nate
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:45 am (UTC)as for me seeing snsd in america....idk yet, i cant see it
they might be too innocent but eh thats just what i think
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:47 am (UTC)Mostly because they are a nine-membered asian girl group.
but hey you never know
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:50 am (UTC)the majority of the attention they received were from Asians
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:48 am (UTC)Someone should write one representing Canada >:
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:37 pm (UTC)(can we have a smart writer do that one though?)
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:54 am (UTC)I now just want, SMTown and individual SMEnt concerts, this would make my life, everything else can fall into place later.
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:58 am (UTC)the market for music is as big as SKs. And like the same rule apply, barely make any moneys from cds, cfs making the big bucks, etc.
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:56 am (UTC)I'm not a WG fan and most would say they have flopped in America thus far but if "Nobody" didn't get them anywhere idk why this writer thinks shit like "Gee" are going to get SNSD anywhere, their songs don't have any appeal lol they'd be a joke in America.
LOL this guy is such a fanboy though. I'm not saying kpop groups shouldn't try to enter the U.S market but i don't believe they're ready to accept them so easily like this dude is trying to make it sound.
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:31 am (UTC)Mte. Gee is way to campy and cutesy for America. They would have to change their sound tbh.
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:57 am (UTC)I kind of feel like it'll be really difficult for a girl group to be successful here whilst successful in Korea. The American market loves showing tits, ass, skin, dirty dancing, stuff like that, and if the girls did succumb to that interest, they would totally alienate their Korean fanbase and more than likely get a lot of hate for it.
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:59 am (UTC)And I find Super Junior more charming, there is no one fact, it's an opinion.
Girls’ Generation now has fans from all over Europe. The Paris K-pop concert was a very interesting event. I was sometimes skeptical about Korean reports of the “Korean wave”. It was reported that the Wonder Girls and Rain successfully entered the American market, but, in reality, the majority of the attention they received were from Asians.
Actually, untrue. The Wonder Girls have many fans that are not Asian, I don't know about Rain, but I can tell you that about the Wonder Girls.
Girls’ Generation has to overcome this same problem, but they have a higher chance of success than the Wonder Girls. The Wonder Girls’ entry into the American market seemed like a desperate attempt to me. I am not sure why, but that is the feeling that I got. The Wonder Girls behaved as if they had risked it all on their entry in to the American market and it seems like they have completely forgotten about Korea. They definitely made a mistake. That is because, regardless of whatever activities they have in other countries, they cannot forget about Korea, their “home base”. And we know very well the Wonder Girls’ situation after returning from America.
They did risk it all, and no they haven't forgotten about Korea. Have you read or seen a single interview of them since they came to America. How they talked about blessed they are with all the love they've recieved in Korea, how much they love their fans, all the opportunites they've been given. They are extremely humble and down to earth. And the situation after returning? You mean winning an award with only two weeks of promotion, against Super Junior? And you mean having their song place in top 10 yearly songs even though they had only two short weeks of promotion?
And the fact that they wanted to hold an American tour with just one song did not bring good results. “Nobody” is not a bad song, but it was not quite strong enough to have staying power. It is inevitable that songs like that will become boring quickly. On the other hand, Girls’ Generation brought several hit songs to Paris and showed their charms to fans from a wide variety of cultural backgrounds.
Apparently you've never seen a Wonder Girls concert either. They've remade almost all of their singles into English, and they cover a wide number of artists, showing off their skill in singing, dancing, and just their oozing charisma.
Girls’ Generation is a charming girl group that has the talents and skills needed to succeed internationally. I also believe that this is an okay time. I look forward to seeing Girls’ Generation becoming the first Asian group to become a global sensation.
And the Wonder Girls are just as charming, and they are already a global sensation. America is not the world, it may be the largest music scene, but the WG have already started to break into it. They have an amazingly large fanbase all over the world, and they'll continue to work hard and prove themselves.
I am not saying Girls Generation couldn't become a global group as well but it's rude and simply incorrect to act like the Wonder Girls are "desperate" and unsuccessful.
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:02 am (UTC)I would rather see snsd in Asia where they have a chance to succeed. I don't think any kpop groups can make it in the western market.
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:06 am (UTC)...hmm....
The writer has good points, especially the one about the non-english hits being one-hit wonders ("Macarena" much?).
I think he's a bit harsh on the Wonder Girls. JYP may not have fully succeeded with the Wonder Girls & "Nobody", but it's not like they failed miserably. They got their name out there, they had some marketing, they charted on Billboard — albeit with a severely discounted physical single — and they're working on an "American" album. It's certainly not a big splash or anything, but I think JYP wants to slowly grow a fanbase as opposed to making a big splash. That may or may not work, but it's still a strategy.
The writer, on the other hand, is advocating a Spice Girls sort of approach. Make it big in the UK/Europe, use the same big hit to go crazy in the States. This could also work, but not every Euro hit is an American hit — Sugababes, Girls Aloud, the Saturdays...they all have yet to do anything in America. Isn't "Scandalous" the last UK hit from a girl group to chart in North America?
The one big thing the writer is missing (to me, at least) is the fact that the home base is a non-English base. The worldwide "top star" singers (Mariah Carey, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, insertfavouritehere) are all American and have English songs. When they release a single, it can go worldwide and chart worldwide without heavy local promotion. And when they go abroad for concert/promotional tours, it's not seen as "neglecting" their home because they still have radio support/music videos/charting singles. For an Asian group to not neglect their homebase, it's gonna somehow continue to cater to their home base in their local language while trying to pursue worldwide stardom. They could have simultaneous Korean releases, I suppose. Or Korea can be made "special" and have specific songs and singles for the home market that aren't necessarily the international songs. I'm not saying that this impossible or wrong; it's just that much harder. People like Rihanna can have different songs promoted in different countries, but they're usually from the same album. I also don't know if Korea's ... nationalism? Patriotism? Anyway, my point is that I don't know if Koreans would like their stars having success in other countries while not being home that much. Wasn't BoA seen as a traitor or a sell-out during her Japan-focussed days?
I don't know why I'm writing so much. Maybe it's because this topic is one that I'm interested in, because I wonder how it will play out. I really do hope that there is so major Asian star outside of YouTube that succeeds in North America. I don't think it's an easy process, though, and that's what irks me about this article. It seems to make a complicated process simple and clear-cut when it's really the exact opposite. The American market is hard enough to break into without taking into consideration cultural and language barriers. Regardless of how, though, I hope someone succeeds...as long as that someone isn't ridiculously bad...hahahaha.
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:11 am (UTC)o.o
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:16 am (UTC)his english isn't accented AT ALL unlike BoA, Rain, Se7en, etc.
not only that, but he's started from the basics (on youtube, networking+appearing in big youtubers videos)
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:17 am (UTC)so i guess europe could work?
..i'd like to see some more in australia- for the sake of my life say yes? lol
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:23 am (UTC)Yeah that's one of the reasons why I don't want them in the US.
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