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Korean media company SM Entertainment is claiming that one of their artists, Super Junior, has sold over 100,000 copies of their debut single, "BONAMANA (Bijin)," the alleged highest debut single sales for a Korean artist. Late Tuesday, June 14, they wrote:

Super Junior sold over 100,000 copies of this single for the first run. With this, it made people realize the intense interest of Japanese fans for Super Junior.

The information was published by SM on their official SM Town Facebook page despite reports from Oricon that the single only sold 59,262 copies in its first week. SM also claimed that Super Junior had no "promotion activity in Japan prior to the single album’s release,", yet stated just a few paragraphs down, "Super Junior was picked as a model and sang the commercial song for the famous Japanese convenience store ‘CircleK Sunkus,'" which sounds suspiciously like promotion.

The sales scandal comes just a few weeks after the Korean media was caught lying about 2PM's sales in Japan, claiming that the boyband sold 72,000 copies in their first day despite Oricon reporting no more than 42,000 copies possibly sold.

Source: SM Town & Oricon
Investigative journalism:
[info]dookmi @ arama
Anonymous tipster: [info]lopezfitzgerald
Snacks and catering provided by: [info]albondiga 
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Date: 2011-06-15 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nortonamo.livejournal.com
I for one am surprised.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nortonamo.livejournal.com
btw I do not think it is anonymous if you say the tipster's name

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From: [identity profile] spread.livejournal.com - Date: 2011-06-15 04:44 am (UTC) - Expand

JUST LIKE I SAID ON ARAMA

Date: 2011-06-15 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorkiilove.livejournal.com
its ok

at least sm isn't lying about the relevant snsd

bye suju

Re: JUST LIKE I SAID ON ARAMA

Date: 2011-06-15 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feel-my-mind.livejournal.com
Its probably Avex telling to SME.

Avex doctored Ayu, Kumi and Tohoshinki (and more) sales in "Avex sales reports" before.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyupudding.livejournal.com
As I said on Arama, it was probably mistranslated and they actually meant shipments.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chachanchan.livejournal.com
I've read in another translation that it was shipments or initial orders, not sales that were 100K.
And also not "promotion activity in Japan prior to the single album’s release" it was "without extensive marketing or promotions for this single."
Seriously, SM should translate accurately.

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Date: 2011-06-15 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadow-kitty47.livejournal.com
old picture haha omg siwon's hair i cant

Date: 2011-06-15 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oppa-did-meanit.livejournal.com
Had to go back and look and lolololol at all of them. Especially Yesung and Shindong omg what is air?

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Date: 2011-06-15 12:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-06-15 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocketjenny.livejournal.com
Korea loves to lie how well their idols are doing in Japan/other places not surprised.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djlancerock.livejournal.com
That's such a nice and recent photo.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dandanfung.livejournal.com
ohmygod old picture, it's kibum...

Date: 2011-06-15 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nandexdame.livejournal.com
love the credits on this post

Date: 2011-06-15 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nandexdame.livejournal.com
though seriously, kpop companies/media need to stop talking like this. japan actually has a pretty legit chart unlike korea. you can't just go around claiming stuff without getting caught

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Date: 2011-06-15 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] o-o-mai-o-o.livejournal.com
Shindong's head in that picture. omg.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mymagiclantern.livejournal.com
someone needs to photoshop a cat up in there.

Date: 2011-06-15 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cnidaria-jin.livejournal.com
LOL obviously Sho is shocked XD

Date: 2011-06-15 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ababobaby.livejournal.com
lol shindong @ pic

Date: 2011-06-15 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albondiga.livejournal.com
just like when YG pretends shipping 100k to stores means bom's jowls are huge and in demand!!!

Image
so done with korea!

Date: 2011-06-15 04:27 am (UTC)
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Date: 2011-06-15 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdofpray09.livejournal.com
You keep expressing your distaste for SM, Jaejoong! I approve.

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Date: 2011-06-15 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mad-nux.livejournal.com
lol Korean media

Date: 2011-06-15 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlz23.livejournal.com
lol shibrows in ur icon. XD

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Date: 2011-06-15 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geureiseu.livejournal.com
Might be mistranslated? LOL IDEK. But SJ did debut at No.2 on Oricon Daily Charts last week. ^^;;

http://yfrog.com/z/h45lvcp

Date: 2011-06-15 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
SME translated it and posted it on its FB

http://www.facebook.com/notes/smtown/super-juniors-first-japanese-single-ranked-2nd-on-the-oricon-weekly-chart/207564965953012

They claim they sold 100,000 and Oricon says otherwise. Oricon is really reliable btw.

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How Oricon works:

Date: 2011-06-15 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
- Oricon counts ALL versions of each release.
- Oricon only releases the top 3 sales for the daily singles and albums charts.
- Oricon will release the full sales weekly, monthly and yearly.
- Oricon releases the number of copies sold to the buyers (fans) by the sellers (outlets/stores/shops, etc), NOT the number of copies shipped to the market (outlets/stores/shops) by the record labels. That is the role of RIAJ physical certification.

Re: How Oricon works:

Date: 2011-06-15 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabucha26.livejournal.com
I wish more ppl would understand how Oricon works. It really isn't that hard.

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Date: 2011-06-15 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tofucakes.livejournal.com
Thanks for investigating!! ^-^
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Date: 2011-06-15 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lub-lub-lub.livejournal.com
Completely OT, but your Tracy Flick icons give me unfair high school flashbacks because this movie was filmed at my school :D

Date: 2011-06-15 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
Image

omg the credits of this post bring tears to my eyes, i always get emotional when people show this kind of commitment and integrity to anything.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erbalurbal.livejournal.com
Did SM actually release the original info? Whoever runs the official facebook seems to just be translating false info. SM should know better

Date: 2011-06-15 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feel-my-mind.livejournal.com
They probably got the number from Avex NOT oricon. Avex is known for marking up their sales in their Avex sales reports (examples: Koda Kumi's Black Cherry went from 1,032K to 1,450K and Ayu's guilty went from 568,288 to 750,000)

Also, the translation(from the original Korean) is terrible, so there probably something we're missing.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-06-15 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabucha26.livejournal.com
omg what a horrible picture! they look like a group of hosts...

Date: 2011-06-15 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
they should have a host jdrama

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Date: 2011-06-15 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taeminsponytail.livejournal.com
Kyuhyun, save yourself and abandon this sinking ship!

Date: 2011-06-15 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chachanchan.livejournal.com
If you mean the sinking ship as that picture above, yes, Kyuhyun saved himself XD

Date: 2011-06-15 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryukokoro-oppa.livejournal.com
Here for the ancient pic of SuJu.
Regardless if it's translation or them fabricating sales..

SM
Image

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