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The flood of girl groups this year might actually be doing some damage to the music industry (besides saturating the idol market). Netizens are raising suspicions over manipulated album sales statistics from three girl groups, and consequently, Hanteo – an album sales anaylst site – has become the center of hot attention.

Apparently, netizens spotted sudden spikes in album sales from the Brave Girls, Rainbow, and 4minute, which caused some concerned discussions on various community boards as to whether companies were actually buying back their albums to create an ‘all-kill’ effect. Because the Korean music market isn’t as strong as it could be, it only takes a few thousand sales to achieve that much-coveted ‘all-kill’ title.

In effect, all it would take for an agency to bump their rookies to the next level is to spend a little extra money to help push false reports about ‘all-kill’ titles, and hopefully grab a music program trophy in the process.


But where did it all begin?



It all started with Brave Girls suddenly dominating charts overnight with over 4,000 in album sales. It’s a feat that they cleared barely a week into their debut, while senior girl groups with established fanbases like SISTAR and SECRET took much longer to achieve those same numbers.

Netizens have been watching as Rainbow followed with a sudden spike in sales. Soon after, 4minute recorded nearly 5,000 sales in just under two days to keep up with the others on the charts.

On Hanteo, a netizen wrote, “Because Brave Girls is buying back their own albums, Rainbow is now forced to keep up and have bought back their own albums in the second week of their promotions. 4minute is also competing for that #1 title so of course, they are starting to buy it back as well. Even if artists win #1 on charts, we need to keep it quiet to prevent this.”

Another netizen wrote, “What exactly are they going to do with all of the albums they bought back? Despite it being such a blatant case of buying back their own albums, they’re claiming it’s not. Now people are accusing f(x) of buying back because they’re the next girl group comeback.”

An anonymous representative of the industry commented, “These days, album sales are an indication of a fandom’s strength. To rookies that have yet to establish a name or fanbase for themselves, it’s only natural that accusations of buying back albums will follow when they suddenly dominate album charts. It’s reality.”

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Date: 2011-04-23 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycolorisacolor.livejournal.com
how this title was approved, idek

the article DOES NOT state that f(x) is buying albums, but that rainbow, 4minute and brave girls might be. f(x) IS NOT part of this scam. the article seriously doesn't even point f(x), allkpoop that decided to quote some ~netizens~ saying that people might think f(x) is involved.

Date: 2011-04-23 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ace-nikkei.livejournal.com
thank you.

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Date: 2011-04-23 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miuratenshi.livejournal.com
Lol at the first netizen being so matter-of-fact about Brave Girls buying back their albums and everyone following suit.

Date: 2011-04-23 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unreal.livejournal.com
4 minute album sales

first week 1600
second week 1600
third week 9500 only in 3 days (all from same retailer)

Some think cube entertainment really did buy those albums back because Korean 4 minutes fans on DC sites are raising a hell storm at Cube for tarnishing 4 minutes' image. Apparently, Brave Girl's company started the trend of buying back their albums which forces other companies to do so. Netizens stated that if it weren't for f(x)'s comeback they would not have known. People are worried now that f(x) isn't able to win an award next week

Date: 2011-04-23 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycolorisacolor.livejournal.com
I will seriously kill a witch if f(x) loses their award AGAIN for THE SAME FREAKING REASON!

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Date: 2011-04-23 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-orange.livejournal.com
Still trying so hard. Still not funny.

Date: 2011-04-23 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ss501pixie.livejournal.com
I belive that Brave girls are buying their own albuma kinda unsure about 4minute and Rainbow but that doesn't mean F(x) would they nearly won last time with NU ABO but because of a certain PD they did not win and 2PM did this time they are back with a stronger fanbase so of course they would do well in charts

Date: 2011-04-23 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorawa.livejournal.com
oppar ur really funny ^______^

Date: 2011-04-23 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asuka-roses.livejournal.com
idg why omona just loves to hate f(x)

Date: 2011-04-23 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spread.livejournal.com
f(x) is just following in the footsteps of 4minute.
Give it a few years..

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Date: 2011-04-23 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilstay.livejournal.com
I don't get this article. It is written like it's a fact but there isn't any facts, just lots of netzians saying 'I think...'.

Also, I usually don't complain about the title but I have no idea, what the titles got to do with anything or with 2pm for that matter.

Date: 2011-04-23 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noneko.livejournal.com
I believe it was speculated that f(x) lost out on a title last time around because 2pm's company bought back albums. don't know if anything was proven though.

Date: 2011-04-23 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsaid.livejournal.com
Bullshit title aside -

Sure, it's possible it's all a scam (from all the music companies).
And so what? If that's the hype that'll lengthen the lifespan of hallyu and of the groups I enjoy, who am I to bitch about it.

And
If there's a moral failing here, it's not from my oppars/unnies. Corporate bullshit is a higher level decision. Shame on anybody who thinks it's a reflection of character of the people actually in the trenches.

Date: 2011-04-23 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilstay.livejournal.com
'Corporate bullshit is a higher level decision. Shame on anybody who thinks it's a reflection of character of the people actually in the trenches'.

This. I know many kpoppers like to think that idols are all morally corrupt and evil minions, unlike the godly singers of the west but the truth is, when push comes to shove both in Korea and the West, most artist unless they are Jay-Z, P.Diddy, Lady Gaga and the type are all kept in the dark or very much controlled by the company that they are under.

The music business, is a business. To be a business means to make money and you do what you have to do, whether the idols like it/are aware of it or not.

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Date: 2011-04-23 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lopezfitzgerald.livejournal.com
i don't know who brave girls are trying to fool, i've never even seen a single fan of them ever

Date: 2011-04-23 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albondiga.livejournal.com
i don't even think [livejournal.com profile] ethereal_limbo is bothering with them =[

Date: 2011-04-23 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubble-monkey9.livejournal.com
yeah I remember looking at the charts and being confused about why brave girls and rainbow were selling that much..

Date: 2011-04-23 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinobu-chan69.livejournal.com
The fuck is that title... =___=

Date: 2011-04-23 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-on-me-jay.livejournal.com
THIS!!! I demand the presence of the Taec Army.

Date: 2011-04-23 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
I don't even know who is Brave Girls in the first place :/. I'm loosing it.

Worried about 4Minute. Way to tarnish their first win.

Date: 2011-04-23 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lopezfitzgerald.livejournal.com
4minute already won w/z muzik and huh
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Date: 2011-04-23 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lopezfitzgerald.livejournal.com
it means JYP paid for every award 2PM has gotten since heartbeat

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Date: 2011-04-23 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inudela.livejournal.com
did they really think the sudden spike in brave girls' sales wasn't going to be suspicious? really?

Date: 2011-04-23 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taecish.livejournal.com
2pm only sell to their legions of fans i'm defriending u

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Date: 2011-04-23 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwangstephanie.livejournal.com
lol SM doesn't care if they have an all kill. SM is all about profit so they would never waste cash buying albums or awards. If SM cared, the Grace would be here.
It's obvious that Brave Girls are buying their own albums since they have like 5 fans. Rinbow probably is too, who knows.

Date: 2011-04-23 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amy.livejournal.com
mte. sm is probably loling at everyone else and counting their cash rn.

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Date: 2011-04-23 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitme.livejournal.com
and its Brave Girls of all groups.
Like who would believe they sold THAT MUCH.

Date: 2011-04-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumi-maki.livejournal.com
Buying back albums seems like such a waste of money for a company, especially a smaller one. Is a music show award that important?

Date: 2011-04-23 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jibegajima.livejournal.com
People look at charts though, thus getting the artist recognition. The potential rewards from that recognition far outweigh the price to buy back the albums if it's successful, Sure, it's a gamble, but so is debuting a group in the first place. It's all risk vs. reward.

Date: 2011-04-23 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albondiga.livejournal.com
false reporting! 4minute's album spiked in sales because of thai and japanese fans buying albums in bulk. their korean fans are all broke and never buy physical albums.

brave girls, f(x), rainbow are the desperate ones as always!

Date: 2011-04-23 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unreal.livejournal.com
So because they buy in bulk Korean 4 minutes fans on DC sites are raising a hell storm at Cube for tarnishing 4 minutes' image?

And I've seen various 4Minutes fans telling each a differnt story as to why they spiked. Because they won, because of their not sold out fansign, because of their Japanse fans. Then now this. Seems they can't make up their minds how it happened.

Edited Date: 2011-04-23 10:21 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-04-23 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unreal.livejournal.com
Achieving the "all kill" has NOTHING TO DO WITH WINNING AN AWARD FOR ALBUM SALES. The buy back system is used to boost them onto charts for publicity purposes, facial recognition, popularity, and to bring awareness to other companies. It helps place them in network tv shows and music programs. This publicity then attracts "love calls" from advertising agencies, marketing firms and gets the label revenue from product endorsements, clothing, electronics, food/beverage, and make-up commercials. The price a record label pays a 3rd party to buy back the albums is a small price to pay for the potential rewards they will receive. Also, the 3rd party distributor can then re-sell the cd's at an extremely low price to re-boost the rankings when sales are decline, giving the artist a 2nd push...

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Date: 2011-04-23 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dilettantka.livejournal.com
that's actually quite interesting... it makes sense.

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Date: 2011-04-23 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jibegajima.livejournal.com
COLOR ME SURPRISED.
Maybe BEAST can get some wins now come on Cube hold that shit down!

Date: 2011-04-24 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dapo322.livejournal.com
But BEAST has won before. They won for Shock and Soom

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Date: 2011-04-23 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosetta16.livejournal.com
ok f(x) doesnt need to buy their own albums, SM will never do this
cant they see SM artist albums always sell well and f(x) isbigger than those gril groups named

Date: 2011-04-23 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosetta16.livejournal.com
Plus f(x) album is the second best album realse this year i swear other albums have being fail to me
*best album till now is TVXQ's KYHD*

Date: 2011-04-23 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandra-hall.livejournal.com
If there's even a grain of truth in this story smh at all involved cos this is fucking pathetic.
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