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There seems to be a lot of talk today about various problems, but I don’t want to say anything about this happening. However, I’ll tell you something not as a CEO of a company, but as a person. Photos and fancams are illegal to take during fansignings, events or other similar things.

I posted a notice on the official fancafe so please look at it. Because there’s something called portrait rights… Putting it up on sites or blogs without permission is illegal based on rules. It doesn’t matter if it’s for commercial use or non-commercial use… So starting from the 1st album, filming during any event or fansigning will not be allowed.

 

But to the people who had a tough time coming, especially those who live in the countryside cannot see them often, we gave silently gave less restraint and allowed it. I know well that photos and fancams can give more publicity. However, there are many incidents happening that all of you don’t know about.

Incidents where people send them bizarre/comedic pictures or when they take send photos with the eyes ripped out.. Unless it’s happened to you, there are many hurtful incidents happening that you don’t know. There are some people who record their conversations during the fansigning and ask things like… why did you act mean to me, why didn’t you act nicer, and then send it to us.

Anyways, I think that we should endure these happenings as celebrities. However, I still think that everyone should follow the rules. Just because we allowed something once or twice that was originally not allowed, doesn’t mean that becomes the rule. So I would like it if no one argues about it being the rules (T/N: not his rule, but the rule that it’s okay to take photos) or saying offensive words like calling our company inexperienced and incompetent. 

While we’re on the topic of restraining this, I heard that there was some trouble with the cafe’s staff and I plan to take intensive action. And there are people talking about the privileges for staff… What I don’t understand about this music video filming problem is… I was there the whole time and I didn’t see any of the staff. But would they have been hiding somewhere? And I heard that a fan manager distributed an Inkigayo ticket to her friend first, but she says she never did that.. Because I wasn’t keeping watch there, I have to believe her words… 

However, if things like this keep happening, it’s definitely something I need to reprimand for. And I want to firmly say that there is no privilege for staffs. But think about one thing.. Staff members are doing this job without pay and they think of it as volunteer work, so please understand small mistakes. And to staff members who made a large mistake, I would have to fix it.. But I think it will become better if I talk with reason and scold them. Also, let me say something about communication.. This Twitter is my personal Twitter and since I’m a CEO of a company, there are probably many people who think I’m speaking on behalf of them as a CEO of a company. But this is because there are incidents that we cannot speak a lot about. 

The fansigning isn’t hosted by Woollim, it’s by that record shop so there are many things I cannot respond to. Also, the performances in Japan are hosted by the Japanese performance company so problems could arise if I hastily say something. It’s not because I don’t want to answer.

There are also people who endlessly ask questions about things that could come up if you search it on Naver. And about the members’ feet sizes and clothing sizes.. I don’t know either ㅠㅠ I recently posted something about manners on Twitter. I became really shocked then, thinking that it wasn’t being understood at all.. Someone brought up a rumor so I responded that it wasn’t true but they told me I was lying and to not lie. I wouldn’t be lying at that situation and say you didn’t believe me, you could just judge yourself after listening to what I have to say. To tell a person who’s older than you and wants to listen to what you have to say, to not lie, only seemed like you wanted to enforce that the rumor is true and not understand it clearly. I decided to post this because of how frustrated I was. Anyways, seems like I wrote too much.

There will definitely be people who will agree and won’t agree to what I’m saying. This is my own opinion and my personal excuse. Starting from awhile ago, I put an effort to cherish fans and I still do. If we showed any inexperienced points so far, I ask that you forgive us and understand it. 

We’ll have to promote very hard again starting from tomorrow. I thought about this for the whole day because I’m a timid blood type A, and didn’t get any work finished. We’ll do our best and keep running forwards.

Ah, truthfully I don’t want to do a fansigning with this kind of mood. But seems like I can’t do anything about it because of the Japan showcase schedule that was planned a month ago.. I’m saying this one more time, but photos and fancams are not allowed by rules. So I’m thinking about various things right now. For instance, there’s a method of having a separate photo time. Since I’m thinking of various things right now, I hope there won’t be any comments that I’m ignoring the fans.

Also, I want to communicate in a friendly manner with fans through Tweets.. Please let that happen.. Please don’t make us feel hurt with rumors or other things that haven’t been confirmed. Let’s… live happily…

 

trans. cr; hyejin @ infinite updates ; take out with full credits ♥
CEO's twitter: @starmakerljy
(Mods, sorry i couldn't link to his original tweets cause they're all gone now, but this is important to read for Infinite's fans and alike, so please (>.<).

I might be slow but somebody please explain what the heck is going on here (O_O)
I think it's more than just about  illegal pics taking and fancams.
Read the whole tweet first before you make an assumption pls.

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Date: 2011-03-22 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainmarvel.livejournal.com
Sounds like CJes' rant part 2

Date: 2011-03-22 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xfactorglory.livejournal.com
Didn't read the article, but as soon as I saw your comment, I knew what it was about.

Sad, but true.

If you're interested :)

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Date: 2011-03-22 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anthonymarie.livejournal.com
what? tough luck.

so confused.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyxcami.livejournal.com
i understand fancams..BUT PHOTOS TOO?!?! wtf.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wasuremono.livejournal.com
Uhh dude you ain't Johnny :(

in other news tl;dr I stopped reading after the whole no taping fansignings or having their pics on the intertubes

Date: 2011-03-22 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ssehun.livejournal.com
lol "you ain't Johnny" :))

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Date: 2011-03-22 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmrawr.livejournal.com
the only thing i got was that something happened at a fansigning that infringed on infinite's privacy...i think?

but asking fans not to take pics/vids at fansignings and events...not gonna happen.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com
I don't really get it but I thought he was disappointed because of rumors in fancafe? and fans asking him menial matters about the members and some other things about schedule (I don't really get it), the fans accused him for lying.

I think he is just not prepared for having this kind of fans for his group before, considering his other artists.

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Date: 2011-03-22 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 831panda831.livejournal.com
omg this CEO is such a downer , wth.

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Date: 2011-03-22 01:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com
poor CEO TT______TT
I really really want him to be back on twitter.
He is my favorite CEO after YG (just because no one can beat papa YG).

He should be prepared when having an idol group though, the fans are completely different from the other groups'.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theycallmeriz.livejournal.com
fgs what the hell is wrong with some people?!

i really really like Woollim's CEO. every thing he says always makes me feel like he genuinely cares about the Infinite guys and knows them pretty well if that Attributes Chart is anything to go by :')

if you actually read the whole thing, he's downplaying and staying calm about some pretty serious stuff... though he is SO NICE for letting fans from far away slyly take photos. i know if infinite do a fansign while i'm in korea this summer, i am GETTING a photo one way or another. :L

Date: 2011-03-22 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mangopopcorn.livejournal.com
Attributes chart? Care to link? Sounds interesting hmmmm.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nijigirl-us.livejournal.com
Wth w/ that pic/video thing?
They must really hate the fans who can't make it to the fansigns and other events.
Cause you can scratch eyes out on any pic; doesn't have to be from a fansign.
And just cause there are a couple of creepy fans, why do the rest of us need to be punished?
That's just unfair...
And fans who do come to the events... can't they have something for memories? I love having all the pics and fancams from those few concerts I went to... They remind me of how much fun I had there *pout*

Date: 2011-03-22 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worshipmeonly.livejournal.com
They must really hate the fans who can't make it to the fansigns and other events.

I don't think that's a fair statement, to be honest. The CEO sounds really backed into a corner here because of something more than just improper use of copyrighted images. It sounds like someone is using fansignings to get images/videos of the boys in a negative way to defame them, and if that is the case, I'm completely okay with just having official pictures and video. I think sometimes we forget that idols are real people, too, with real feelings that can be hurt. I'm glad to see that Woollim Ent. appears to be more concerned with the boys' physical and emotional well being than with making money.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oystersauce87.livejournal.com
MBLAQ's manager said something about this too, I think. I don't know what the issue was though

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Date: 2011-03-22 01:48 am (UTC)
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Harshin our buzz.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-raine.livejournal.com
Is the CEO Epik High's Tablo though? It doesn't sound like something Tablo would say.

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Date: 2011-03-22 01:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com
just saying, I think his main points aren't just about video/photo taking.

and he is still my favorite CEO after papa YG.

Date: 2011-03-22 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omonaki.livejournal.com
Well... I'm not quite sure what to say? But I hope that things become better for him, the cafe and whatever's going wrong. ):

I'm glad that CEO said what he wanted to, but I'm sad that he deleted his twitter...

Date: 2011-03-22 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xshinebrighterx.livejournal.com
I kinda get where he's coming from. In some fansigns I've been to, pictures and video aren't allowed. Especially because you only get to be in the room for like 3-5 mins before getting your sign, (the rest of the time you wait outside)and people who do take pics in there look so rude idk... I guess some people have been making bad use of the pictures they've got and it's a shame for those who genuinely just wanted to have a memory of the day. Can't blame him and it seems like his first interest is protecting the boys, which speaks really good of him, and I don't think he is being rude or inconsiderate to the fans either.
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Date: 2011-03-22 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olive-101.livejournal.com
that must've been one long twitter post...XD

Date: 2011-03-22 02:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com
yeah actually I was wondering if he really posted in on twitter, lol.

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Date: 2011-03-22 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cake.livejournal.com
I don't exactly get what's going on and how those rules can be seriously applied? This totally sucks for those genuine fans, who just want a little something to remember after seeing them though.

I really hate how a few people can spoil the fun for everyone else

Date: 2011-03-22 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khaus414.livejournal.com
too long to read... gathering summaries from comments. XP

Date: 2011-03-22 02:12 am (UTC)
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On one hand, I'm still always surprised when fancams are allowed.

On the other, something must have happened to prompt something like this, because inexperienced or not, you don't post something lengthy and thought out like this without reason :/

Date: 2011-03-22 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
Well there goes your fan base then, it's a tool to help others see them.
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well he delete his twitter so he doesn't have to read/listen to response but the fans HELP you, don't forget.
Now those who are on twitter will get flooded.
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I'm sorta pissy meh It'll pass.
I wonder how this will affect Infinite and it will you'll see.
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Date: 2011-03-22 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/__generik/
Sounds like Infinite's fanbase is growing! No photos would suck but Woolim CEO's alluding to photoshopped threats or strange confessions of love? He just sounds creeped out and exhausted trying to keep a good image of his company and Infinite.

Hope he doesn't shut down his Twitter. I like his boss/fanboy tweets.
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