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The National Institute of Scientific Investigation have revealed that the handwriting on Jang Ja Yeon's document doesn't match up with her autograph handwriting. Anxiety and question is growing over the basis of this revelation.

Document Imaging Division's Yang Hoo Yul stated that the spelling errors and strokes were not Jang Ja Yeon's.

Chief Yang, "During Jang Ja Yeon's lifetime, she uses the proper form of 'a lot' (많이) however the letter repeatedly used the slang term of 'a lot' (마니).

"The way she wrote her ㅇ's and ㅂ's were different from what Jang Ja Yeon would normally use"

"Jang Ja Yeon writes her 요's in one stroke whereas the letter's 요 has multiple strokes."

"The penmanship on the letter is very rigid and Jang Ja Yeon has been seen to be more flexible with her letters."

He said that the handwriting was very similar to a Whistleblower named Jun Mo (31)

Jang Ja Yeon uses 짓, 듯하다, 바닥, 현재
while Jun uses 짖, 듣하다, 바닦, 현제

translated by: sundrunk
source: naver

i wish this article was longer and elaborated more on the whistleblower bit
how disrespectful towards the deceased
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Date: 2011-03-16 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hannahsmeep.livejournal.com
its either a real good cover up or its for real. But jun has no reason to forge the letters unless he was confided to and decided to take action this way....

Date: 2011-03-16 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danceinthedark.livejournal.com
Reason #1: That many powerful people have enough money to make her disappear if they want to, nevermind her letters.

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Date: 2011-03-16 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lockerkeys.livejournal.com
this is so disrespectful to the deceased.
its getting more and more confused and it just allows such issues to happen and go unnoticed because of how it blows out of proportion.
who do we believe now >.>
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Date: 2011-03-16 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunsandsmoke.livejournal.com
this poor woman.

Date: 2011-03-16 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xshinebrighterx.livejournal.com
if true, they are showing pretty valid points, but I think if someone had fabricated the letters they would have been careful to not make such obvious mistakes. I want to know more of this Jun person and what reasons he'd have to fabricate the letters.
Also, what does the family say in all this? Personally I'm pretty sure my mom would be able to recognize to recognize my handwritting

Date: 2011-03-16 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cake.livejournal.com
Also, what does the family say in all this? Personally I'm pretty sure my mom would be able to recognize to recognize my handwritting

I was wondering about this as well. I think most of my family members can distinguish my writing, as well as close friends.

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Not sure

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Date: 2011-03-16 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qrizta.livejournal.com
ugh... still not convincing, DUDES. I don't have a standardized word choices and way of writing. It could occur that JJY wrote it that way for many reasons.
y would a guy serving his time in jail fabricate such a long letter anyway? y not investigate the names written on the letter and the possible connection Jun had with them if he's suspected to fabricate it?

Date: 2011-03-16 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbrella-smile.livejournal.com
The part about different handwriting makes sense, it does look drastically different. Sadly I don't think anyone, outside of this whole mess, will ever know the truth.

Date: 2011-03-16 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbrella-smile.livejournal.com
"The penmanship on the letter is very rigid and Jang Ja Yeon has been seen to be more flexible with her letters."

She may have done that on purpose to make the letter more clear and formal.

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Date: 2011-03-16 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cake.livejournal.com
I don't even know what to believe anymore seeing how the men involved can pay anyone off to cover what they've done, but sometimes I wish I wasn't cynical enough to think that way, instead of believing what's being said.

Date: 2011-03-16 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foukay.livejournal.com
No shit, who the hell uses the same writing style as their autograph on a daily basis. This is just outright disrespectful, not to mention bullshit.

The fact that it is way past my "bedtime" doesn't really help matters, if anything, my sleepiness only adds to my frustration. These kiddies need to brush up on their detective skills.

Date: 2011-03-16 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foukay.livejournal.com
Also (forgive me if this sounds ignorant), can't they do more than just analyse the writing? Do they not have a forensics team?

It just feels as if they're trying to brush the whole thing off, it's just ridiculous.
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Date: 2011-03-16 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soribreak.livejournal.com
when will this girl ever catch a break

Date: 2011-03-16 07:18 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-03-16 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royalantares.livejournal.com
I hope they're for real and not trying to cover some rich men's asses.

Also the names were horribly specific with positions and all. Not that it's impossible to find that kind of info, but it is obscure and homeboy was in prison right?

I took a seminar on forensics and they suggest looking through notepads for the pen indentation in the later sheets. Also, finger prints ARE under forensics.

I think writing (style and choice of words) aren't enough to conclusively rule out that they were written by her. My cards/letters are much neater than my lecture notes.

Date: 2011-03-16 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royalantares.livejournal.com
They should go ahead an investigate those names mentioned anyway. If Jun did write those letters, that doesn't necessarily mean that everything written inside if fabricated. He could have wrote those letters down later, if she had told him verbally, knowing that the accusations would be taken more seriously if people thought she had written down the names.
Who knows if Jun is bullshitting. That would be disgusting and he would probably be better off in a mental institution rather than a prison.

Date: 2011-03-16 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-yang.livejournal.com
prob a cover-up
not surprised, if those men listed are really the one involved...It's expected that they would pay any method to turn the letters into "fakes"

Date: 2011-03-16 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewarpedmelody.livejournal.com
Totally, thats how the world goes about these days. We need a Batman to physically throw all these men into jail.

Date: 2011-03-16 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taeminsponytail.livejournal.com
all of this is too much

Date: 2011-03-16 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] big-bananas.livejournal.com
This is sickening. My handwriting changes every year, and my word choice/ writing style depends on my mood and who I'm addressing at the moment. They better not halt investigations because of this.

Date: 2011-03-16 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sn0wtigressj0.livejournal.com
Same, I don't think the 'experts' should base their conclusions off of 1 thing, as in mainly her 'autograph handwriting.'

The way I sign checks and formal documents look NOTHING like my regular handwriting. And my handwriting also changes from when I leisurely writing in my journal compared to say, my chicken-scratch when I'm trying to take down notes. Also my letter handwriting changes too (i.e. depending if I'm writing to a friend or a boyfriend).

Someone above mentioned that technology can analyze and date the ink. I mean, I'm sure their other ways to really conclusively determine the evidence, right? The NSF just seems to have this whole hands-off, laissez-faire attitude by saying that the most basic of forensic is a separate duty by the police.

Date: 2011-03-16 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightspeedsquid.livejournal.com
this whole thing is just sickening

Date: 2011-03-16 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inudela.livejournal.com
tbh my handwriting changes on a daily basis. no kidding. it can go from cursive to print.

smh

Date: 2011-03-16 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shampoo.livejournal.com
+1. except mine changes within like 2 pages of notes bc i have carpal tunnel and my hand starts cramping up lmao :|

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Date: 2011-03-16 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pumadragon.livejournal.com
weird how this only turns up right after the names are released, after 2 years.

Date: 2011-03-16 10:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-16 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shampoo.livejournal.com
i still don't understand why the first time around officials were saying it looked like her handwriting and that jun couldn't have faked it, and now they have all these different examples of what makes it not hers. like shit make up your mind. and fucking address the situation for real so people don't have to leak personal letters, fake or not.
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Date: 2011-03-16 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uncyn.livejournal.com
if NFS is really sincere about clearing up suspicions, it should disclose their basis of comparison. like the comments above, there are too many assumptions made. people may have inconsistent handwriting (just look at my exam script from page 1 - 10, lol it's like written by 10 different persons) and different objectives for which something is written for. especially for korea, since they emphasise so strongly on the occasions when you can use formal and informal language. I'm sure handwriting would also differ accordingly.

as long as they haven't been comparing the letter to her autographs, in which case it'd be ultimate win.

Date: 2011-03-16 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksandsarcasm.livejournal.com
If I was writing a list of the names of powerful people that hurt me, I'd want it to look as neat as possible so that they or their lawyers couldn't claim that it was open to reinterpretation because the name isn't clearly written. Don't autographs tend to use fancier and looser penmanship then regular everyday writing? For a long time when I was really young, I used cursive for my signature to make it look 'fancy' but I hardly used that in everyday writing. And this is confusing me, I have a TON of papers from school or just small notes here and there to remind me of things- to do lists, grocery lists, school notes, important reminders, etc. Why are they comparing the letters to her autographs only? Why not the plethora of writing scraps I'm guessing she probably has had? People don't always throw everything away.

Date: 2011-03-16 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingparadoxx.livejournal.com
The penmanship on the letter is very rigid and Jang Ja Yeon has been seen to be more flexible with her letters
Um, if I were writing a letter recounting how I was being forced to perform sexual favours I'd be pretty damn rigid too js. jfc I don't think she's ever gonna get the justice she deserves.

Date: 2011-03-16 10:04 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-03-16 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dearmisterdarcy.livejournal.com
I'm torn.

It could very well be an attempt to cover things up, but I can't just jump on that train immediately. I mean, I know a lot of people are going WELL WHAT IF SHE CHANGED HER HANDWRITING FOR THE LETTERS, but it's not that simple. Once you learn how to write an 'e', it is very, very, very hard to change how you do it, especially when it comes to Eastern languages and the number of strokes. You don't change your handwriting daily unless you relearn how to write the alphabet daily. Muscle memory is a bitch.

I don't know, I'd need to see the letter and another example to be sure. I was already a little suspicious when the last article came out and in the picture, the letters didn't look alike. Who knows, maybe there was no evidence for JJY to have a case to Jun faked some to get her justice. Maybe people were paid off. I can't be sure right now.

Date: 2011-03-16 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewarpedmelody.livejournal.com
I'm not sure, I still think something is fishy. I'm a Chinese so I know how to write Mandarin and yes writing Eastern Languages is really a tough job, so many strokes in an alphabet.

However, my Mandarin words in a formal piece of work and an informal letter or message does differ quite abit.

Date: 2011-03-16 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loki-lee.livejournal.com
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