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On March 9th, SECRET’s Sunhwa and Song Ji Eun guested on MBC’s “Radio Star” and addressed accusations claiming that “Madonna” was a carbon copy of “Magic“.

The girls performed “Magic” and “Madonna” in a hit track battle against SISTAR. Afterwards, they were asked by the MCs,“Aren’t they both the same song? Even the choreography is the same. What exactly is different about them?”

Sunhwa explained, “Both songs are the works of the same composer. The choreography is also the same.” When asked by MC Kim Gura about whether she was embarrassed at all by the similarities, Sunhwa replied, “Not at all. We thought of it as our own unique color, so we were very proud.”

The talk of ’self plagiarism’ then shifted attention over to MC Super Junior’s Kim Heechul. The idol MC was asked about the similarities between “Sorry Sorry” and “Bonamana,” to which he confessed, “Both tracks were composed by Yoo Young Jin. ’Sorry Sorry’ was #1 on the Taiwanese charts for 38 weeks in a row, so ‘Bonamana’ was like an extension of ‘Sorry Sorry.’”

Since MC Yoon Jong Shin is also a composer, he was asked to share his thoughts on the issue. “It’s their own song so it shouldn’t be a problem. I do think that they consciously composed it like that since the previous track had done so well.”


Source: Allkpop, Nate
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Date: 2011-03-15 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] na-jin-br.livejournal.com
Is it just me who can't hear Sorry Sorry in Bonamana at all?

Date: 2011-03-15 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keygasmic.livejournal.com
I can't, not really..

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Date: 2011-03-15 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nijigirl-us.livejournal.com
“Not at all. We thought of it as our own unique color, so we were very proud.”

Yeah, ok lol

Date: 2011-03-15 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fay-of-sunshine.livejournal.com
What?
They're saying the type of music and dance that both are is how they perceive their group style to be. Both songs have unique and hard choreography which secret seems to be good at. The gold tinge in both songs is another element that they adopted as a part of their style.
Don't mean to sound pressed, but that's just how i interpreted their statement.lol

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Date: 2011-03-15 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crypticbluerose.livejournal.com
lol and some people say "binguel binguel" is similar to "man man hani" but i think it's a continuation.

Date: 2011-03-15 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] floppykpop.livejournal.com
idk about you, but whenever man man ha ni comes on my ipod i start doing the binguel binguel dance.

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Date: 2011-03-15 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keygasmic.livejournal.com
I thought that exact thing when I heard 'Madonna'

Date: 2011-03-15 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintersol.livejournal.com
I like how "self plagiarism" is only a problem in kpop.

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Date: 2011-03-15 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiroi-wonnie.livejournal.com
LOL. Seriously? If it's their own song, then it's not ~plagiarism~ k. This guy needs something better to talk about.

Date: 2011-03-15 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jibegajima.livejournal.com
I think you're taking the term a little too literally. Madonna and Magic sound undeniably similar, that's the point.

Date: 2011-03-15 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notochrasy.livejournal.com
I know people draw comparisons between Sorry Sorry and Bonamana, but I still like Sorry Sorry so so so much more.

With Magic & Madonna, I like both. I like the choreo of both too, but I probably like the concept/style of Madonna more.

But lol, why is this whole self-plagiarism still relevant? xD

Date: 2011-03-15 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
It's not plagiarism if it's from the same person/group. "Self-plagiarism" is so ironic.

Date: 2011-03-15 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
I'm loving that pic of Heechul up there, by the way. :)

Date: 2011-03-15 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuuism.livejournal.com
Just a mix of having a style, being unoriginal and milking a formula, happens all the time. One of my favorite occurrences of the same composer churning out basically the same song (Kim Changdae, I like his work but this was lol):

2PM - Tired of Waiting


Taegoon - Betrayed

Date: 2011-03-15 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malyo.livejournal.com
I love ToW and I've never heard of Betrayed but HOLY FUCK.

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Date: 2011-03-15 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moronicus-kyla.livejournal.com
it's not so much plagiarism as it is a lack of fresh ideas. the only real problem with this is if the fans get tired of it and stop liking it.

Date: 2011-03-15 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jumpsama.livejournal.com
I don't mind 'self-plagiarized' songs, it gives them the signature tune/style that will help them last and be remembered. Just don't keep recycling the same old thing.

At least this issue was addressed now since everyone (like here in omona) seems to get bothered by it before.

Date: 2011-03-15 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
self plagiarism? lol.

and I think I'm like the only one who prefers bonamana to sorry sorry. I liked the chorus of sorry sorry, but everything else was just blah for me.

Date: 2011-03-15 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslemonbar.livejournal.com
I think I love bonamana so much because I was right in there for promotions, lol. I just hate the ridiculous amount of autotune :|

but I think for both songs they have good hooks, choruses and fairly decenet bridges, but the verses are so blah.

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Date: 2011-03-15 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fay-of-sunshine.livejournal.com
Lol, self-plagiarizing.

Date: 2011-03-15 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jibegajima.livejournal.com
lol I was just arguing with people this past weekend about the similar sound of Madonna/Mazik.

Date: 2011-03-15 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sballet06.livejournal.com
It's weird because even though I know they sound alike, I hate Magic and love Madonna.

Date: 2011-03-15 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fay-of-sunshine.livejournal.com
I kinda feel the same, except it's I can listen to madonna way more than I can magic.

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Date: 2011-03-15 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartl0ck.livejournal.com
need to go clear my earwax in order to hear the similarities of bona-sorry.

Siwon being the one leading the hit songs is their style, they said it themselves. no issues here.

Date: 2011-03-15 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-raine.livejournal.com
I think Bonamana sounds more like Ring Ding Dong actually...again since it's Yoo Young Jin...he can plagerize his own songs, I guess.

Date: 2011-03-15 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spin.livejournal.com
people say bonamana is similar to lucifer XD there was a mashup done with the two and the beat is the ~exact~ same

38 weeks in a row?!?

Date: 2011-03-15 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandra-hall.livejournal.com
that is all

Date: 2011-03-15 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tofucakes.livejournal.com
Madonna was like an upgraded version of Magic tho.

I still believe that they should have gone with Mazic v.3.0 instead of Shy Boy.

Date: 2011-03-15 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bumie.livejournal.com
I was sad when I heard shy boy for first time , i want them to "self-plagiarism" more

Date: 2011-03-15 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
I can't differentiate the two in my head. Like..I'll start out singing Mazik and then it'll turn into Madonna, ugh.

That being said, I like that style better than Shy Boy.

just gonna leave this here

Date: 2011-03-15 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inchywermy.livejournal.com



because what the fuck. you don't get a lot lazier than that bro

Re: just gonna leave this here

Date: 2011-03-15 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dapo322.livejournal.com
i'm pretty sure Brave Bros has a few more songs that sound like these 2. i'm just too lazy to find them right now, but plenty of Brave Bros songs sound alike yet no one is interviewing him about it.

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Date: 2011-03-15 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donutism.livejournal.com
I don't see why Heechul always bring up the "30-something weeks no.1 on Taiwanese charts" thing in like every other interview. It's like...is that the only decent thing they have acomplished in their whole career?

Oh wait, it probably is.

Date: 2011-03-15 07:14 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-03-15 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royalantares.livejournal.com
People need to learn what actual plagiarism is, God fucking damn.

Date: 2011-03-15 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plu178.livejournal.com
In uni, you are not allowed to self plagarise when it comes to your own essays. Self plagarism is srs business. lol.
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