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Music industry slump and digital downloads spur increase in East-West collaborations


Girl group 2NE1 made waves last year when footage of them working with Black Eyed Peas’ will.i.am hit national television.
Music industry slump and digital downloads spur increase in East-West collaborations



This is the first of in a two-part series exploring the increasing involvement of foreign producers and composers in the K-pop scene. ― Ed. [Link to second part]

When footage of The Black Eyed Peas’ will.i.am working with girl group 2NE1 hit national television last year, it was a defining moment for the K-pop industry.

Though the domestic industry had been enlisting the talent of overseas producers and composers for years, this collaboration took the whole situation to another level, not just in terms of exposure but also in terms of star power.

“Our side had an opportunity to meet will.i.am,” Hwang Min-hee ― PR Team Leader for 2NE1’s YG Entertainment ― said in a phone interview. “He saw music videos (of the girls) and said he wanted to work with us.”

The artist of the Grammy Award-winning hip-hop group met with the girls for three recording sessions in London and Los Angeles and churned out 10 tracks. Then, in early February, Black Eyed Peas tour DJ-and-co-producer Poet flew into Seoul with DJ Josh One to lay down some more tracks for 2NE1.

“This was my first time in Korea to work on K-pop,” DJ Josh One said via e-mail. “I was very impressed. YG’s sound and vibe seems to definitely stand out from everything else I have heard in Korea.”

Since the late 1990s, the K-pop industry has rapidly grown, bulging out of its domestic market, spreading through Asia and entering European and American markets.

Such rapid expansion has also spurred overseas interest from major producers and composers.


Take Xperimental Entertainment for instance. The Los Angeles-based company founded by William Pyon and Kim Young-hu currently counts South Korean music goliath S.M. Entertainment as one of its biggest clients and has also worked with YG Entertainment, the company behind major K-pop acts BIGBANG and 2NE1.

According to Xperimental CEO William Pyon, the amount of business based on hooking overseas composers and producers up with K-pop artists has grown over the years. If before, it accounted for about 5 to 10 percent of their business, now it takes up 50 percent.

Park So-young, assistant manager for the South Korean publishing arm of Xperimental, agreed that there has been an increase in such collaborations.

“If there are 12 tracks then at least one of them is an overseas single,” she told The Korea Herald.

“We get a lot of requests from entertainment companies for overseas composers these days,” she added.

An increase in the number of prominent international producers and composers working with Korean entertainment companies, in turn, seems to be fostering even more interest in South Korean pop music abroad.

Lars Halvor Jensen, whose Denmark-based company DEEKAY Music worked on Girls’ Generation’s “Hoot,” believes there is “massive potential for K-pop worldwide.”

“Lots of people are tired of the ‘taking yourself so serious’ that a lot of Western artists seem to have,” said Jensen, explaining the selling power of S.M.’s nine-member girl band via e-mail. “In a world marked by natural disasters and financial recession people need the positive energy that comes from listening to K-pop artists’ records and seeing them perform.”

DEEKAY first made contact with S.M. through a mutual acquaintance that pitched their song “Holla” to the South Korean entertainment company. The song became boy band SHINee’s single “Hello.”

Then, DEEKAY and songwriter Alex James co-wrote “Hoot,” which Universal Music Publishing Group European artists and repertoire executive Pelle Liddell says he pitched to S.M.

Aside from writing and programming for S.M.’s Girls’ Generation and SHINee, DEEKAY, which was founded by Jensen and Martin Michael Larsson in 1998 and currently has studios in Copenhagen and Los Angeles, has also written and produced for major artists like Diddy, Lil Wayne, Mis-Teeq and Ashley Tisdale.

Though DEEKAY could easily stick to high profile Western acts, Jensen said “because of our fantastic experience with Asian artists, we will focus a lot more on K-pop and J-pop markets” this year.

Xperimental CEO Pyon, whose company also has branches in Seoul and Tokyo, believes that one of the reasons more overseas producers and composers are looking to South Korea is because “the music industry really took a slump.”

“I think that has a lot do with a lot of interest now from foreign writers as well as American writers to break into the Asian market,”
he said over the phone.

Pyon, who not only worked with S.M. and YG but also on projects featuring major artists like the late 2Pac, attributes the industry downturn to technology.

The Internet fostered digital downloads which led to decreased album sales. Also, says Pyon, the advent of technology narrowed the gap between home and professional recordings.

All of these changes have really upped competition among American producers and composers.

“People that were charging 120,000 (dollars) per song, nowadays, if they get 30,000 (dollars) a song, they’re doing well,”
Pyon said.

In fact, Pyon said it is “to some degree cheaper” for a Korean entertainment company to enlist overseas talent than it was 15 years ago.

Yet, Pyon believes that the real incentive for K-pop companies to invest in overseas composers and producers is in the music itself.

“It really comes down to the song,” Pyon said. “It comes down to if they really like the song, then that’s what they’ll go for.”

“On one hand you have a Korean producer and you have an American producer and his song,” he elaborated. “They (Korean entertainment company) listen to it. If they like the Korean song, then they will 100 percent go with it. If they like the American producer’s song because it’s better or a better fit, then they’re going to go with that.”

Another incentive for the K-pop industry to look abroad seems to be higher consumer standards. Pyon agrees that the ability to download singles digitally without having to purchase the whole album enables consumers to be far more selective in what they listen to.

“The standards of domestic audiences are high,” said Seo Hyeon-joo, director of Starship Entertainment ― the company behind K-pop girl group SISTAR ― explaining why they want to continue to collaborate with overseas producers and composers. “We need to meet their expectations.”


K-pop girl group SISTAR, whose single “I Don’t Like Weak Men” was produced in collaboration with Grammy Award-winning producer Eliot Kennedy

“Consumers have really raised the bar,” said Park of Xperimental’s XP Media. “They listen to J-pop and American pop. I think that’s why (Korean entertainment companies) use overseas songs.”

For now, domestic composers and producers still dominate the K-pop industry. There is no denying the increased presence, however, or at the least increased publicity, of overseas collaborations.

Indeed, Starship Entertainment’s collaboration with Grammy Award-winning producer Eliot Kennedy on SISTAR’s single “I Don’t Like Weak Men” represents one of the company’s first forays into working with foreign talent. The positive experience, according to Seo, has left the company wanting to continue such explorations in the future.

Kennedy, in turn, is also interested in working with more Korean artists.

“I will be heading out to Korea in the next couple of months to hopefully work with some artists and local writers and producers,” he said via e-mail.

As for high profile collaborations, will.i.am’s work with 2NE1 may be the most televised of the day but it is certainly not the first.

YG’s Se7en worked with female rap artist Lil’ Kim for his U.S. single “Girls” and BIGBANG hotties G-Dragon and T.O.P. with American DJ Diplo for “Knock Out.”

JYJ ― the boy band formed by three TVXQ idols-gone-independent ― collaborated with famed rapper-and-record producer Kanye West on their first album “The Beginning” last year.

Not everyone, however, is looking specifically to work with famous acts.

“Yes and no,” Pyon said about whether or not he feels the pressure to orchestrate more headline-grabbing collaborations. “If you want publicity or if you’re looking into publicity, then, yeah, it’s definitely worthwhile to do that.”

An S.M. Entertainment artists and repertoire publishing representative said that they were “open to the possibility” of working with famous artists but that they are more focused on the quality of the “song” itself.

One thing is for certain, collaborations like that of will.i.am and 2NE1 point to the increasing international influence of K-pop.


“Nowadays a lot of producers, they know who these artists are,”
Pyon said about overseas recognition of S.M. and other K-pop acts. “It’s telling me that the K-pop scene has really evolved into almost a mainstream aspect of the industry.”

“A lot of American producers know as much about or even more about J-pop and K-pop than even me.”


Source: Jean Oh @ The Korea Herald


Video source: YGLIFEofficial
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Date: 2011-03-01 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angy-angel.livejournal.com
*sits down and waits patiently for 2ne1's english album*

Date: 2011-03-01 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kanbinayume.livejournal.com
*waits with you*
I'm probably more impatient than patient though.

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Date: 2011-03-01 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesth.livejournal.com
I just imagined SHINee singing Holla instead of Hello.

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Date: 2011-03-01 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drfaith101.livejournal.com
William is so overrated and if he ruins 2NE1, I will personally deck him.

Date: 2011-03-01 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drfaith101.livejournal.com
Secretly want a Eminem or Justin Timberlake or Usher duet with 2NE1 though hehee

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Date: 2011-03-01 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
NGL, that original "Holla" song was pretty good. It transitioned really well into what was released as "Hello." Both were nice songs.
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Date: 2011-03-01 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] himemiya--anthy.livejournal.com
I would love to see my favorite western artists and korean artists collab someday. +_+

Date: 2011-03-01 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heirani.livejournal.com
"Then, DEEKAY and songwriter Alex James co-wrote “Hoot,”"
Omg I didn't know that :ooo
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Date: 2011-03-01 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porandojin.livejournal.com
isnt a succesful kpop formula - western producer + western choregrapher + lots of training ... at least with snsd the biggest hits were done this way

Date: 2011-03-01 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyangs-icecream.livejournal.com
HEEEEEEEEEEEEY Why the FUCK forgetting other european countries and only mentioning London???
GERMANY is her too guy -.-

And not forgetting France...!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2011-03-01 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yeocheon.livejournal.com
wasn mit dir los, ich versteh kein wort XD LMAO

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Date: 2011-03-01 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brianathebard.livejournal.com
No mention of the Wonder Girls `-`

Date: 2011-03-01 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soheefan.livejournal.com
I came in this article for that =/
should've just read the tags tho

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Date: 2011-03-02 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eeyorelm09.livejournal.com
i'm sorry...i love ukiss...but truthfully, those boys have no chance here...i'm sorry it's the truth...
big bang...idk...there's a good chance though...

Date: 2011-03-01 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-erotomanic.livejournal.com
but a lot of the international fans are turning to kpop cause they're sick and tired of mainstream/western pop. part of the charm of kpop is the spunk that the idols bring to their songs and performances. they shouldn't totally give complete to foreign producers.

Date: 2011-03-01 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dublejointedtoe.livejournal.com
this!

It's the quality that the A-list companies (SME, YG, JYP..etc) are producing that makes it worth it and how much money/effort they take to promote their products that made me get really into kpop.

Idk, when I saw 2ne1 record with William and he's like, "take one! Okay! Good! Edit! Moving on!", it just felt half-assed, so I felt bad for 2ne1 because I'm sure they want their album to be PERFECT TO THE T

you know?
/ranttttt ova

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Date: 2011-03-01 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nene718.livejournal.com
Damn your career must really be going downhill if you go to Korea to work for SISTAR

Date: 2011-03-01 06:21 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-03-01 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annhh.livejournal.com
well isn't music universal ^-^ though I find it odd how western producers can create so perfectly bubbly music fit for Korean market [without kpop background]

and...no one seems to say it out loud but (twilight lol)
will.i.am is releasing the same shit over and over again these days. I'm scared.

Date: 2011-03-01 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justhyuu.livejournal.com
will.i.am is releasing the same shit over and over again these days.

same goes for YG

Date: 2011-03-01 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onerainysunday.livejournal.com
will i am sounds like he's struggling to remember the lines in that video

Date: 2011-03-01 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justbsplendid.livejournal.com
KPOP FIGHTING!!!

Date: 2011-03-01 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zobydabest.livejournal.com
Would have been hilarious if Shinee actually sang "Holla" instead of "Hello"

"BIGBANG hotties"
I lol'd at this

Date: 2011-03-01 08:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-01 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrypop.livejournal.com
I looooove Will.I.AM but DAMN west!!! A little late on marketing trends aren't we?

Date: 2011-03-01 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanilla-09.livejournal.com
But don't company's usually buy the rights/song rather than having the producer's personally produce a song?

Date: 2011-03-01 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taylorniw.livejournal.com
From the examples I can think of, yes.

Date: 2011-03-01 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taylorniw.livejournal.com
"One thing is for certain, collaborations like that of will.i.am and 2NE1 point to the increasing international influence of K-pop."

I hope they mean international in terms of Asia.

Date: 2011-03-01 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allthingsgood.livejournal.com
i am honestly worried about how will.i.am's tracks for 2ne1 are gonna sound. i watched 2ne1 tv and while i'm sure some of it is due to editing, he made the process look like a song was just literally 2 takes before he bounced and munched on a burger and talked to the pds about kimchi.

Date: 2011-03-01 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaich0u.livejournal.com
I think the one person who had the best shot at a career in the US already gave up and went home: BoA. She had everything going for her--talent, looks, ~charisma~...just rather poor handling. :(

Date: 2011-03-02 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qrizta.livejournal.com
Agree with u so much. It was a mix of poor promotional effort, marketing strategy, and music choice. They forced her to be mainstream too much. I hope that her dance movie will open up more opportunities.

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Date: 2011-03-01 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dublejointedtoe.livejournal.com
Does Korea really think William is the cream of the crop? SRSLY? it's not 2003 anymore

Date: 2011-03-02 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eeyorelm09.livejournal.com
THIS
and as long as they don't try kanye west again...
obviously he didn't give a shit
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