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The internet has allowed for some sexual freedom, though Korean gays still struggle.

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SEOUL, South Korea — When Suh Eun-pil was being harassed at school last year because of rumors he was gay, the internet was one of the few places he felt safe. One website in particular, called Rateen, provided a haven from critical eyes and verbal abuse.
Suh began visiting Rateen regularly, and six months later his life had completely changed — for the better.

On a recent Friday afternoon, Suh, 18, was surrounded by friends, everyone chatting and laughing. The small group of friends — all whom met through Rateen — was planning a social event for gay and lesbian teens, with games, prizes and special speakers. They were expecting about 150 guests, one of their largest turnouts yet.

 
“The site has helped me a lot,” Suh said. “I met a lot of good friends through it and was able to talk freely about my problems and worries for the first time.”

The internet has allowed for sexual minorities across South Korea to express themselves and build communities to support one another, but it wasn't always this way and struggles for the minority remain. Many of those same people still keep their sexuality a secret from certain family members and friends, while others fear the internet could, at some point, stop helping and start holding people back.
 
Rateen, which is a mash-up of the words “rainbow” and “teenager,” was first conceived of in 2007 by a young woman who goes by the name Jinki. She’s now 20 years old and in college.

Jinki says these days there are a number of websites like Rateen for LGBT teens in Korea. But back when she was in high school, there weren’t any places she could find answers to some of her questions about being a lesbian.
“A lot of the sites back then were mainly geared toward adults, for things like meeting up and dating,” Jinki said, sporting an oversized yellow sweatshirt with a Pac-Man logo on the back. “I wanted to make a place for teenaged sexual minorities to find other people like themselves and create a culture.”

Since starting the site, Rateen has attracted nearly 5,000 members. Jinki says the group is made up of LGBT teens as well as their friends and family members, who are trying to understand them better.


The site’s forum, commonly referred to as a “cafe” in Korea, contains countless posts from users asking for advice or recounting stories of discrimination. Some users ask about homosexual feelings they are beginning to have or are uncomfortable with. One recent post was simply titled, “I’m worried about my future.”

Less than a decade ago, sites like Rateen would have been banned in Korea for being “harmful” to young people, according to government laws. One act called for the blocking of gay and lesbian internet sites on the grounds they were a threat to young people. Rights groups not only in Korea but around the world protested the censorship, and it was eventually repealed in 2003.

Korea prides itself on being able to move quickly, and the growth of online gay communities is no exception. In a country where young people are reported to buy new mobile phones every year and a coffee shop seems to open each week, staying up to date is a necessity.
But Korean teenagers looking for information online about homosexuality can still have problems finding it.

Jong Geol Lee, from the Korean gay men’s rights group Chingusai, said online search engines in the country regularly block teenage users from seeing the results of queries such as “homosexual,” “homosexuality” or “gay.”

“Teenagers are still led to believe homosexuality is something dangerous or unnatural,” Lee said.

Lee says if someone wants to see the results for homosexual content on Korean search engines, they have to certify themselves as an adult first (most Korean websites require users to log in with their national ID number, which contains their birthdate).

Lee empathizes with gay and lesbian teenagers in Korea who are trying to navigate their way through society. Even at the age of 34, he has obstacles to cross.

A few months ago, Lee felt free enough to do what is known on Chingusai’s website as a “Coming Out Interview,” featuring photos of him (one in drag) and a lengthy discussion about his life. Anyone can pull up the page online. His parents, however, are still unaware of the fact that he is gay.

“That’s something I think many gay and lesbian Koreans worry about, trying to figure out the best way to tell their parents,” Lee said.
The reason for this, according to Lee, is because Korea is a relatively conservative country where children are largely expected to respect their parents’ opinions no matter what, and men and women are expected to marry and have children. Some Koreans are even said to believe gays and lesbians don’t exist.

Which is a sentiment some fear could continue.

Rateen members confer in a sexual minorities advocacy center in Seoul. (Michael Rhee/GlobalPost)
Lee and others are concerned homosexuality has the danger of becoming ghettoized on the internet, far from the lives of most Koreans.

“If you don’t actively take an interest in this kind of issue and search out these kinds of topics, you don’t even realize what’s going on,” said Korea University Law Professor Keechang Kim, who works on internet-freedom issues. “I think the prejudice simply perpetuates.”

But with the growing popularity of social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter in South Korea, Lee says the lives of sexual minorities have a chance to permeate into mainstream Korean culture. For example, Lee says openly gay Korean film directors like Leesong Hee-il and Kim Jo Kwang Soo are making an impact on the mainstream by gaining large followings online.
Ultimately, though, Lee says gays and lesbians in Korea will have to move their online communities offline in order to change society in a way that will accept them equally.

“Our country still has strong prejudices, and not everyone knows there are all different kinds of people in the world,” Lee said. “But still, I think a Korea that’s accepting of sexual minorities can happen soon.”



source: globalpost | rateen
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Date: 2011-02-07 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
lol we posted the same

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Date: 2011-02-07 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
online search engines in the country regularly block teenage users from seeing the results of queries such as “homosexual,” “homosexuality” or “gay.”

this is so sad :(

Date: 2011-02-07 01:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-02-07 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
I cant believe that there is still people who believe that ppl choose to be gay. Seriously why would anyone choose something like that when it comes with so many hardships.

I friend of mine came out of the closet and his mother kicked him out of the house...

Date: 2011-02-07 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xfactorglory.livejournal.com
A friend of mine (whose lesbian) was trying to explain to some boys that it's not a choice because "Why would I choose something that will cause people to hate me and discriminate against me for?" and the boys kept insisting that it's a choice.

I was like UH, I THINK SHE'S KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS THAN YOU GUYS.

Seriously, smh.

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Date: 2011-02-07 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitsujiga.livejournal.com
it's still saddening to see some minorities don't even have a platform to talk about their issues...glad that they now can do this freely on the net at least.
but i agree that they should take their discussion offline someday and make themselves be heard.

Date: 2011-02-07 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lasthenia.livejournal.com
online search engines in the country regularly block teenage users from seeing the results of queries such as “homosexual,” “homosexuality” or “gay.”

Pisses me off. I'm glad that these websites exist though, and I really hope kids looking for support can find them despite the damn filters.

Date: 2011-02-07 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veeveeboo.livejournal.com
its unfortunate that society has such a strong prejudice against gays/lesbians to the extent that these teens don't even dare to tell anyone. The only place they felt safe was the internet. How sad =(

Date: 2011-02-07 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maple88.livejournal.com
I'm glad they're at least going somewhere, instead of keeping all those questions and problems bottled up. Even if homosexuality isn't accepted in Korea, it seems like they're making their way to some form of tolerance.

a young woman who goes by the name Jinki
ngl, I laughed for like 5 mins. And giggle every time her name was mentioned.

Date: 2011-02-07 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reonreon.livejournal.com
Jinki. HAHA

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Date: 2011-02-07 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] headswillroll88.livejournal.com
I keep getting mixed messages about homosexuality in Korea. Some people tell me it's nbd then I read stuff like this.
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Date: 2011-02-07 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belintuchiha.livejournal.com
Jinki......... nice name.
LOL

Date: 2011-02-07 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childishgrin.livejournal.com
There's an older actress called Lee Jinki if you look up the name lol.

I'm guessing this is why Onew got a stage name.

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Date: 2011-02-07 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badoy.livejournal.com
i could imagine hyunseung's fanboys posting here.

Date: 2011-02-07 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obeytheempress.livejournal.com
And Key's, and Jessica's fangirls :P

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Date: 2011-02-07 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obeytheempress.livejournal.com
I honestly hope to see an idol come out and to see them have a happy ending. Maybe someday.
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Date: 2011-02-07 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itangeisha.livejournal.com
"online search engines in the country regularly block teenage users from seeing the results of queries such as “homosexual,” “homosexuality” or “gay.”

i'm annoyed, but i wonder what could they find? Insults? idk :/

changement, changement..
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Date: 2011-02-07 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vegasol.livejournal.com
Ugh, I think it's heartbreaking to hear about all the discrimination against other sexualities that happens in the world :(
I'm so happy that my family is so accepting of these things. I simply can't understand how other people aren't. I can't.

.. I just live in the hope that, if all of us who are accepting raise our children well, we can defeat the hate.

tempted to say, i bet key is all over that site
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Date: 2011-02-07 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewitness.livejournal.com
exactly. as a gag joke, the korean society is very open towards homosexuality. but in actual society, it's incredibly hush hush and looked down upon. the idea of there being an GSA or club for LGBT students is crazy.

Date: 2011-02-07 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-chikin.livejournal.com
"Some Koreans are even said to believe gays and lesbians don’t exist."
WHAT.
NO.
I have no words.

Date: 2011-02-07 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] picklesnjam.livejournal.com
lol Margaret Chos stand up comedy is what i think about when she recounts a story her mum told her about the army haha

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Date: 2011-02-07 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcdhwg.livejournal.com
I don't get why people say it's a choice.. It's not, trust me I know. I wouldn't be gay if I could choose it. Luckily I live in a country were gay people can marry and where it is quite accepted.

It must be so depressing for all the LGBT people in Korea, I felt so bad having to lie about it (when I wasn't out yet), I can't imagine how it has to be if you have to life your whole life like that.

Date: 2011-02-07 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] letsrelapse.livejournal.com
It makes me so happy to see some good news about the korean lgbt community. Having somewhere just to talk about feelings is a step up to having the gay community more accepted in korea. However, it upsets me that teenagers can't even google 'homosexuality'. Ridiculous. i honestly can't grasp how people can be against love. And when people play the 'i'm against gay parents' card it angers me so much (i'd rather grow up with two loving gay parents than a dysfunctional straight family). Anyway, i'm off the point. But basically, more acceptance for the gay community the better. I'm lucky enough to grow up in a family where sexuality and gender doesn't matter as long as i'm happy, and i can't imagine anything worse than not being able to feel comfortable in yourself.

Date: 2011-02-07 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] letsrelapse.livejournal.com
blimey, didnt know i wrote that much! I rambled...

Date: 2011-02-07 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkotaku93.livejournal.com
i have nothing to say to this article... :

Date: 2011-02-07 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyra-chann.livejournal.com
I really admire those LGBT ones.
I hope someday they'll get the freedom other LGBT people got in some western countries.

Date: 2011-02-07 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ncoleey.livejournal.com
jinki~
it's time to come out with your bummie...

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Date: 2011-02-07 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kim-jaejoong.livejournal.com
i absolutely cannot understand the minds of homophobic people. probably because i grew up with a lesbian aunt (but she's like 3 yrs older than me lol) and i have tons of bisexual/gay friends, two of them are my best friends even (my life is colorful lol). and it really saddens me that these people are treated like they have some sort of disease by the ones around them. i'm glad the environment i grew up in is more tolerable of homosexuality than in korea. /:

Date: 2011-02-07 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 831panda831.livejournal.com
I think my friend will find this website very helpful.
Thank you for posting it here :]

Date: 2011-02-07 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sotsotdei.livejournal.com
Ironic how LGBT issues are so hush-hush here when the society itself is so androgynous. Guys primping in the streets and skinship everywhere...

Date: 2011-02-07 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cher-ex3.livejournal.com
Progress, however little it might be, is still progress. :) <3

Date: 2011-02-07 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pabogateunfish.livejournal.com
exactly. ^^b

Date: 2011-02-07 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pabogateunfish.livejournal.com
this is gonna be tl;dr. err.

i like the optimistic note that the article ended with. tbh, i was once of those people who used to 'hate' homosexuality until i came to a realization that no one is better/lesser than others because of his/her sexual orientation.

coming from a conservative family with strong religious background, i remember how difficult it was to change my perspective on this issue because heck, i was taught to 'despise' homosexuality since young. going to college and meeting people of various beliefs opened up my mind, and now i'm proud to say i'm no longer holding a bigoted view towards homosexuality. since then, i've seen people around me having that awareness; and i'm glad to see those little changes.

people are people are people, and people have rights to love and be loved. based on my own experience, i really believe that people and community can change. we just need to be optimistic and make some changes on our part, i.e. spread words of understanding and tolerance in fandom. :)

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